how long between winny and pct?

[JMedic79]

Got a question I can't seem to find the answer to in the forums. how long should you go between last dose of winny until you start pct? i'm going to be running oral winny for 4 weeks at the end of a 10-12 week test sus cycle. can i run the winny into the 3 week period between last injection of sus and the start of pct?

 

[Robalo]

Yes, you can run it between last inject and pct. Start pct the next day after last dose of winstrol

 

[JMedic79]

Solid answer. thanks, bro

 

[fit4life]

winny active life 8hrs, detected in blood for 3 weeks. Start pct 3 weeks out from last winny dose.

 

[Robalo]

winny active life 8hrs, detected in blood for 3 weeks. Start pct 3 weeks out from last winny dose.

You're wrong. Deca stays in your body up to 18 months, should you start pct 18 months out from last deca dose?

 

[Evil Eagle]

You're wrong. Deca stays in your body up to 18 months, should you start pct 18 months out from last deca dose?

Owned

 

[Robalo]

off topic, but it's my thread so fuck it...

robalo, are you actually in the community? i got a tier 2 job offer but pretty sure i'm turning it down. people are telling me i'm crazy left and right.

I'm in Europe

 

[PappyMason]

You're wrong. Deca stays in your body up to 18 months, should you start pct 18 months out from last deca dose?

^

 

[Jt123]

winny active life 8hrs, detected in blood for 3 weeks. Start pct 3 weeks out from last winny dose.

I hope this was a mistake. If not please do us all a favor and not provide us with your incorrect information

 

[fit4life]

^ my information was not correct about half lives and detection times. I have done pct for many years with great success and with winny tabs i have waited until the drug cleared first. I am not challenging anyone or disagree with Robalo or anyone in that matter i was just trying to HELP on personal experience of what has worked for me SUCCESFULLY. Also provided facts about Winstrol tabs in general. I love this sport and would not give out incorrect information, so you r welcome. Okay so i did some research using the search forum button and another reputable source and its okay "on paper" to start pct before going to bed that night of his last dose or the next day...i wish you goodluck and sorry for any misunderstanding. And please dont ever discount my info again unless you can back it up. Maybe i should not even go there but look @ my pics and most muscular pose i rank up there with one of the biggest upper bodies around and trap on this whole forum, go ahead challenge me! Lets see what you got even Robolo. YEAH I'AM CALLING YOU OUT and this is fun, but some of you guys are so obnoxious and disrespectful. I practice what i PREACH and I have waited for winny to clear b4 pct it works sooooo show me what you got. I will give nothing but solid advice here so dont even try to discredit me Jt123, Evil eagle. It was a dead issue to me but you wanna keep talking trash. Put up some pics or shut up! lol You want advice thats works come see me. I am here to help,

 

[fit4life]

typographical error above and i am right on half lives and detection times. I fell the need to squash this for doubting me and disrespecting me and i am adamant in proving that i am and will always will give solid advice. Personally my pct has been done successfully after winsrol has cleared. Just finished GP winny and pct as well. Did pct correcty and pic was was taken. So what you working with so i can become a believer in what you say.

 

[fit4life]

bump.......

 

[Robalo]

So you based your advice in what has worked for you? Ok, that's backing up your info? Because it worked with you? Does it sound logical to you with the example i gave about deca? Isn't that enough? That way worked with you? Great. But that doesn't change the fact that you're wrong. And where am i disrespectful? You're insulting me because i've shown you that you were wrong? You're the obnoxious.

You're calling me out. ok. You can see by the pictures that you're in better shape than me:



That's the best i could do after spend some time on a 6x8 with no exercise


Now, i'll call you out. Show pictures of your two years progress.


I know from where i'm coming and to where i'm going.


And you're still wrong

You could be Jay Cutler and you would still be wrong...

 

[Robalo]

And just one more thing, if you blast and cruise how can you tell about wich protocol works for you?

 

[JMedic79]

Wow, there are some pretty high Tren doses running around here.

fit4life, i appreciate the feedback based on your experience. these compounds definitely have specific mechanisms of action in the body, though. my understanding of winny is that it does not aromatize into estrogen and decreases SHBG. SERM's selectively block estogren receptors. so if the point is to maintain a higher anabolic state without increasing estrogen, wouldn't compounds like winny and var be good bridges between last test dose and pct?

 

[JMedic79]

bump

 

[Jt123]

And just one more thing, if you blast and cruise how can you tell about wich protocol works for you?

I still stand by my word and agree with you fully robalo.
Fit4life How can you call us obnoxious when you are trying to have a dick measuring contest with us. So you claim that you started pct 3 weeks after your last winny dose and it worked? That's terrific and good to hear that it worked for you even though it was done incorrectly. Hit a deca cycle and pct 18 months after last dose and let me know how it works..

With all do respect that is

 

[Jt123]

Wow, there are some pretty high Tren doses running around here.

fit4life, i appreciate the feedback based on your experience. these compounds definitely have specific mechanisms of action in the body, though. my understanding of winny is that it does not aromatize into estrogen and decreases SHBG. SERM's selectively block estogren receptors. so if the point is to maintain a higher anabolic state without increasing estrogen, wouldn't compounds like winny and var be good bridges between last test dose and pct?

Yes var and winny are excellent choices to use at the end. I just finished a test e with oral winny finish and started pct the night of my last dose of winny

 

[fit4life]

Owned

I hope this was a mistake. If not please do us all a favor and not provide us with your incorrect information

i have just popped on here and see you are still upset. I have mentioned about half life and detection times. i have mentioned that with Winny i prefer the drug to clear before start of pct, deca pct for me is different b/c it stays in your system for so long. Also mentioned that it would be okay to start pct before going to bed that night of your last dose or the next day. I apologize for my abrasiveness. Its comments like this that are unsetteling. I do wish you the good luck in reaching you bb goals.

 

[Jt123]

i have just popped on here and see you are still upset. I have mentioned about half life and detection times. i have mentioned that with Winny i prefer the drug to clear before start of pct, deca pct for me is different b/c it stays in your system for so long. Also mentioned that it would be okay to start pct before going to bed that night of your last dose or the next day. I apologize for my abrasiveness. Its comments like this that are unsetteling. I do wish you the good luck in reaching you bb goals.

Fair enough fit. Goodluck

 

[Robalo]

Ok, ft4life. All is good

God luck for you too.

OP, here's some info:

"PCT protocol is based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keeping in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependent on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound:

Nandrolone decanoate - 3wks after last inj.
Boldenone undecylenate - 18-21 days after last inj.
Methenolone eth- 11 days after last inj.
Testosterone eth 11 days after last inj.
Testosterone cypionate – 14 days after last inj.
testosterone propionate 3 days after last inj.
Sus 3 weeks after last inj.
Winstrol oral - stanozolol 8-12 hrs after last dose
Trenbolone 3 days after last inj.
Dianabol oral – methandrostenolone - 4-8 hrs after last dose"

 

[Evil Eagle]

That tool negged me hahahaha.

 

[SloppyJ]

Ok, ft4life. All is good

God luck for you too.

OP, here's some info:

"PCT protocol is based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keeping in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependent on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound:

Nandrolone decanoate - 3wks after last inj.
Boldenone undecylenate - 18-21 days after last inj.
Methenolone eth- 11 days after last inj.
Testosterone eth 11 days after last inj.
Testosterone cypionate ??? 14 days after last inj.
testosterone propionate 3 days after last inj.
Sus 3 weeks after last inj.
Winstrol oral - stanozolol 8-12 hrs after last dose
Trenbolone 3 days after last inj.
Dianabol oral ??? methandrostenolone - 4-8 hrs after last dose"

Technically those are the Active-Half lives of those hormones.

Where I'm going with this:
According to the chart above, if you were on 1g of test e it says 11days is the half life. So after 11 days you'd have 500mg then after 22 days you'd have 250.

 

[Robalo]

Technically those are the Active-Half lives of those hormones.

Where I'm going with this:
According to the chart above, if you were on 1g of test e it says 11days is the half life. So after 11 days you'd have 500mg then after 22 days you'd have 250.

You're absolutely right, the half life of a drug is the period of time required for the amount of drug in the body to be reduced to exactly one-half of a given amount. The active life refers to the period in which the amount of a drug in the body is enough that it will still produce the desired effects for which it was administered. Or conversely, inhibit natural recovery of normal bodily function. It is dose dependent.

 

[SloppyJ]

I too believe that it's dose dependent. I went around and around on here on my first cycle about this. I was using enan. People said 2 weeks. Then my next cycle I used more enan and they still said 2 weeks. I think that's an easy timeframe to remember for someone running a regular dose of 500mg but to me it made sense that it was dose dependent.

 

[JMedic79]

I've noticed that too, Sloppy. Bro's don't seem to understand dosage and how it relates to theraputic range of pharmecuticals. Higher dosage = longer for the compound to cycle through the half life to less than the active life levels. Regardless, that's some great info Robalo and Sloppy. I'm definitely going to adjust my winny to run right up to a day or two before pct.