I feel like I can never get a good shoulder workout

[AKIRA]

No matter what, I feel like I coulda done more or did something different. In all reality, i dont know if I am doing too much or too little.

Seated Military BB press OR Seated DB press
2 warm ups
3-4sets 6-10reps

Then I would do the other one of the above workout for the same amount minus the warms (e.g. DB press then BB press....or BB press then DB press)

Bent over DB raises
3 sets of 6-10 reps

Cable Lateral Raises
3 sets for 8-10 reps

Front raises (cable or dumbell[sometimes with a rope])
3-2 sets for 8-10 reps

Sometimes I follow up with upright rows but hardly cuz it feels unnatural. Its too easy...then when I increase weight, I feel pain (I am only going up in increments of 5lbs too)

Shrugs DB 2 sets of 6-10

I was thinking of doing some machines, but shit I never feel the fucking burn.

Any suggestions are appreciated. ANY. Weight increase, rep increase/decrease, different excersizes, tempo decrease, etc.

 

[Squaggleboggin]

Try doing standing overhead presses. They work the core and make you stabilize a lot more than seated presses. You'll probably also find your shoulders working harder and maybe feel it in your triceps as well (my triceps were sore after doing jerks for a while, but perhaps because I did no direct arm work).

 

[dougnukem]

I like to do triple set DB front/side/rear raises to give my workout a boost. Start with the standing overhead presses Squaggleboggin recommended, and
finish with the triple sets. You could put your shrugs in between these 2 exercises. Something like this:

Standing overhead BB/ or DB press warmup set 8-12 reps
set of 8 (go heavy as you can safely)
rest for 30 seconds
another set of 8

DB shrugs
3 sets of 8 reps

2 Triple sets of front, side, and rear raises w/ DB for 10 reps each
rest for 45 seconds and do 2nd set

Just something similar to the HIT style I've been doing.

 

[squanto]

Try going slower on your bent-over lateral raises and cable lateral raises. It's easy to cheat on those exercises and incorporate other muscles.

Upright rows suck IMO.

The front raises seem redundant with the military press. If you feel like you're not doing enough, try taking them out and adding 1 more set each of military, bent laterals, and standing laterals.

Maybe your body is bored with your rep scheme. Try doing sets of 15 reps, or lowering it to 4 reps. If you lower the reps though, go SLOW as cheating on these exercises is easy.

 

[CowPimp]

Okay, you don't feel like you are working out, but are you seeing gains in the area you are looking for improvements or not?

 

[LexusGS]

Same with me, the one exercise that I've hit a plateu for a long time now is millitary press. I could rep 125lbs. like 7 times for a 2-3month period with no strength gains in that area whatsoever. What should I do to overcome this?

 

[PWGriffin]

Agree....superset and dropset raises are awesome...today me and my trainer did this for shoulders....most of you will think it's prolly too much but whatever...

Arnolds, 3 sets
BB seated military press, 3 sets
Lateral raises one arm, 35 drop, 25 drop, 10 1 set with each arm
Upright rows 3 sets
Hammer shrugs superset with barbell shrugs, 3 sets
Machine reverse flies 3 sets.

 

[Super_Sean]

You'll probably hear me saying this alot on the board, but the volume you have there is just out of control IMO.

You have to keep in mind that your shoulders are indirectly hit in pretty much every upperbody exercise you perform. All heavy presses destroy the front delts, just as heavy rowing heavily stimulates the rear delts.

My personal shoulder routine goes something like this...

Seated Overhead Dumbbell Press: 2 x 5-7
Standing Dumbbell Side Laterals: 2 x 10-12

All sets to failure focusing on overload and progression.

You don't have to go this low, but I'd definitely recommend shaving off a good portion of the sets you have there.

I'd also avoid the upright rows. They'll send your rotator cuffs down the drain.

 

[AKIRA]

I like to do triple set DB front/side/rear raises to give my workout a boost. Start with the standing overhead presses Squaggleboggin recommended, and
finish with the triple sets. You could put your shrugs in between these 2 exercises. Something like this:

Standing overhead BB/ or DB press warmup set 8-12 reps
set of 8 (go heavy as you can safely)
rest for 30 seconds
another set of 8

DB shrugs
3 sets of 8 reps

2 Triple sets of front, side, and rear raises w/ DB for 10 reps each
rest for 45 seconds and do 2nd set

Just something similar to the HIT style I've been doing.

Hmm I did something like that. Only I SUPERSETTED the standing BB press with the seated DB press. Talk about fucking lowering the weight to complete 3 sets. Then I did the back head, middle head, front head workouts as prescribed. Then I did real heavy shrugs(also different).

I coulda sworn you said to superset them, but either way it worked. Sore as a mofo.

Then I decided to do triceps today as well. I tried to do the 100 rep workout listed in the new muscle and fitness magazine. Two 25lb dumbells for skull crushers...made it to about 40 reps. Since I wasnt doing well, I went to a pressdown and did two sets of 100. What a burn.