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I hope Sarah Palin gets raped by her father and has a retarded cyclops baby.

Her views on abortion are one of the reasons she is a dumb cunt. That and she thinks rape victims should have to pay for their rape kits. I'm sure there's plenty more videos out there of her being an ignorant, inconsiderate cum rag so please feel free to post them here. I'd love to see what other kinds of verbal diarrhea she spews out of her mouth.

That's because most people that get raped had it coming and were probably asking for it.
 
Our beliefs come from two different places apparently. I believe in a higher power, God. I also believe that He is in control and that if a woman gets pregnant for any reason, that it was God's will. If He didn't want it to happen then it wouldn't happen. The baby may not know that it is being aborted but God does. He gave life to that innocent human being and some doctor and woman are saying "you are wrong God, I am not meant to have this baby so I am going to kill it".

Now, if you don't believe in God and His higher power then we have nothing to discuss because our beliefs come from two completely places and both of our arguments are falling on deaf ears.

Thanks for the thought provoking discussion. Makes ya think.

Rape is God's will now... that is one fucked up God
 
OH...I see.....Women should be forced to carry disfigured incestuous rape babies because it's widely believed that there is an invisible man in the sky.

Let me ask you this, and I'm being serious here now, I want to know what you think. Should cancer patients not be allowed to receive treatment, or pain medication because it is 'gods will' that they die a horrible death? Should a child born with no asshole be left like that until it's guts explode and it suffers while it dies, because it was 'gods will' that he be born with no sphincter?
And wouldn't making abortion illegal be stripping women of their free will? A right that the bible clearly states was given to us by god himself. God put us on this earth and gave us a basic set of rules to live by, and free will so we could decide for ourselves what we wanted to do with our lives. He didn't give us free will so that somebody else could use their belief system to make all of our choices for us.

Another question, and yes it's another serious one....I'd like to know why you think this 'god' person who is supposed to be so full of love for his children, would want an 11 year old girl to be brutally raped or pregnant let alone both at the same time? If that is the kind of god you pray to then we must not be praying to the same one, because my god would never wish that kind of suffering on anyone.




No it doesn't change that fact. But igno

ring all the statistics that show just how bad an idea making abortion illegal would be doesn't make you look like somebody who has any regard for human life, and certainly not the quality of it. Blindly following the pro-life movement or whatever you want to call it without doing any real research of your own (and from the 'facts' you state in your posts you obviously haven't) and without thinking of the consequences it could have on the general well-being of the human race just makes you look like a heartless and irresponsible human being.

Wake up and realize that you are in America, what's supposed to be the land of the free, not a place where everybody's life can be dictated by your personal belief system, and so far that is all you have presented in your side of the debate; a bunch of religious mumbo jumbo about 'gods will' and forcing your beliefs down someone elses birth canal, and not one bit of common sense or fact.

In America, we have the death penalty. We have this thing called self defense where if somebody breaks into your house and tries to kill you, you can shoot them. We have this law that says if you're being ganged up on by 10 guys even if they're unarmed, you have the right to use lethal force. As Americans we have already decided that the termination of human life is sometimes necessary for the good and safety of man. To make sure that our future children are in a safe, healthy, loving environment, not a place where 7th graders are reaming out their uterus with a coat hanger.

Your argument is self contradictory, and pretty much invalid unless you're holding out on some recording of god himself telling me abortion is horrible and needs to be stopped. So unless you back up your side with some real facts and not some shit you were fed in church or by a fake shock video on youtube, GTFO.
 
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Me thinks SYN may of murdered a few fetuses in her teen years :thinking:

then you didn't read the thread. she clearly stated it's not the choice SHE would make but supports people making this decision for themselves.

An abortion is a choice that I would never make for myself, even if it was a baby made from rape, but I still believe it is an option that should be available to those who don't feel the same way.
 
I ate my twin when I was in the womb. Little bastard tasted like chicken tenders.

when you were born i heard the dr say there were two "membranes" and he looked really puzzled. i'm not positive there was actually ever another baby in there with you. :thinking:
 
Your argument is self contradictory, and pretty much invalid unless you're holding out on some recording of god himself telling me abortion is horrible and needs to be stopped.
Religious retort: It's called the Bible....pshaw :rolleyes:
 
She ate them. They are a delicacy.

sadly there is such thing as eating fetuses. google fetus soup or search on snopes.

up to you to decide if these are valid i don't know many places say yes many no. doesn't seem too far a stretch. placenta eating is real and too common to not wonder about the rest.
 
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ring all the statistics that show just how bad an idea making abortion illegal would be doesn't make you look like somebody who has any regard for human life, and certainly not the quality of it. Blindly following the pro-life movement or whatever you want to call it without doing any real research of your own (and from the 'facts' you state in your posts you obviously haven't) and without thinking of the consequences it could have on the general well-being of the human race just makes you look like a heartless and irresponsible human being.

Wake up and realize that you are in America, what's supposed to be the land of the free, not a place where everybody's life can be dictated by your personal belief system, and so far that is all you have presented in your side of the debate; a bunch of religious mumbo jumbo about 'gods will' and forcing your beliefs down someone elses birth canal, and not one bit of common sense or fact.

In America, we have the death penalty. We have this thing called self defense where if somebody breaks into your house and tries to kill you, you can shoot them. We have this law that says if you're being ganged up on by 10 guys even if they're unarmed, you have the right to use lethal force. As Americans we have already decided that the termination of human life is sometimes necessary for the good and safety of man. To make sure that our future children are in a safe, healthy, loving environment, not a place where 7th graders are reaming out their uterus with a coat hanger.

Your argument is self contradictory, and pretty much invalid unless you're holding out on some recording of god himself telling me abortion is horrible and needs to be stopped. So unless you back up your side with some real facts and not some shit you were fed in church or by a fake shock video on youtube, GTFO.

I can't help but laugh at your comparing killing of another man in self defense and the killing of an innocent child in the womb. Men kill other men because of the choices they make to commit crime. A baby has made no choices that deserve death. I know, I know, You will say what about the mothers choice and what about free will. I guess by your logic, it should be lawful for me to go out and kill anyone I deem a threat to society and anyone I think doesn't want to be in this world because of a birth defect or sickness/disease. I mean someone forced them to be born so I should have the free will to kill them and help them out.

Every human being has the right to life, even a baby. Every human being DOES NOT have the right to being comfortable their whole life or never having to deal with difficult times. I don't have to right to take another human beings life so that my life may be more comfortable. Otherwise, we would have way more murders than we do now.

Are doctors right 100% of the time? NOPE Just cause a doctor says the baby MIGHT be deformed or the mother MIGHT die having the child doesnt mean that it is absolutely going to happen.

Your logic is so laughable. I will come back to this thread and read your posts whenever I am having a bad day. Very comedic material.
 
Your logic is so laughable. I will come back to this thread and read your posts whenever I am having a bad day. Very comedic material.


No your Logic isn't even Logical, it's emotion....on my Planet we terminate lives before they gain the CNS just as yours does and it is the logical thing to do. Many of these children are not wanted, many will end up in broken homes or non-traditional families. Which by the way is the reason your kind says gay couples shouldn't adopt, because they will end up that way. You want all those women not to abort but if a gay couple wants to adopt one it's "Oh Helll NOOO!" But I digress, the logical way of controlling the Population explosion is to allow abortions....Spock out...
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blah blah boo hoo blah

weird how easy it is for some people to ignore that the foster care system is horrendously failing the scant half a million kids it tries to provide for already and what adding over twice that every year would mean. don't forget either that those kids will start having babies in their teens...

it's so bad now these kids are killing themselves and the statistics aren't even telling you how many try and fail. so yea burden a failing system even more that's logical and not just emotions run amok. it's logical to ignore science too... it's bullshit that a doctor doesn't know when babies have serious deformities and health issues now.

it's logical crybabies like you that saddle society with the health care bill of people who don't even know they just shit themselves and can't do anything but go "AAARRRRRRGGHHHHARRRRRAHHHHHHH vlupr oh pargrar" all day for the 20 or so years they survive. i'm sure you volunteer your time to help give them more rewarding life experiences, like a fresh diaper. :coffee:
 
I can't help but laugh at your comparing killing of another man in self defense and the killing of an innocent child in the womb. Men kill other men because of the choices they make to commit crime. A baby has made no choices that deserve death. I know, I know, You will say what about the mothers choice and what about free will. I guess by your logic, it should be lawful for me to go out and kill anyone I deem a threat to society and anyone I think doesn't want to be in this world because of a birth defect or sickness/disease. I mean someone forced them to be born so I should have the free will to kill them and help them out.

Every human being has the right to life, even a baby. Every human being DOES NOT have the right to being comfortable their whole life or never having to deal with difficult times. I don't have to right to take another human beings life so that my life may be more comfortable. Otherwise, we would have way more murders than we do now.

Are doctors right 100% of the time? NOPE Just cause a doctor says the baby MIGHT be deformed or the mother MIGHT die having the child doesnt mean that it is absolutely going to happen.

Your logic is so laughable. I will come back to this thread and read your posts whenever I am having a bad day. Very comedic material.

So let me get this straight. You are one of the people that claim any abortion is incorrect. Yet there are some people that would agree except for times when a mother birthing would result in death to her(possibly the fetus). In this specific instance the fetus would not be innocent as it would cause death to the mother. Round and round, round and round. We can rebuttal everything you say, and you can do that same to pro fetus killers.


While comparing a beating heart to something material is not something that should be done, it is something that is done. People like Ms. whore plain palin want the government out of their lives in telling them what they can do with their money, but are quick to ask the government to stop all "killing" of fetuses. Again, this is irrational and contradictory. I want you to control this, but not this or this or this. Wait, this affects me so don't control this. I want gun rights to kill what I want, but I want experts in their fields to be limited on disposing of a fetus. Then we get into the debate of what life is worth more. There is no stopping the debate especially when people will argue the strangest things.

Would pro lifers be against a lesbian couple birthing a child for a gay couple if the gay couple donated the sperm to the lesbians?
 
We need a new breed of politician that is fiscal conservative, believes in small government but will also stay out of moral and religious issues and let us decide what is good for us.

I don't want my money to be spent by the liberal nuts bailing out GM and raising taxes but I also don't want the conservatives to tell me how to live my life.
 
We need a new breed of politician that is fiscal conservative, believes in small government but will also stay out of moral and religious issues and let us decide what is good for us.

I don't want my money to be spent by the liberal nuts bailing out GM and raising taxes but I also don't want the conservatives to tell me how to live my life.

And to think people from opposite sides can't agree. I agree with you. I think politicians are all crap. Their main goal after getting elected is to get reelected.
 
Kid's should come with an 18 year Lemon Law Warranty, if they haven't begun to make progress by then abort and start over.....
 
when you were born i heard the dr say there were two "membranes" and he looked really puzzled. i'm not positive there was actually ever another baby in there with you. :thinking:

That's because I did a good job getting rid of the evidence. :dont:


I can't help but laugh at your comparing killing of another man in self defense and the killing of an innocent child in the womb. Men kill other men because of the choices they make to commit crime. A baby has made no choices that deserve death. I know, I know, You will say what about the mothers choice and what about free will. I guess by your logic, it should be lawful for me to go out and kill anyone I deem a threat to society and anyone I think doesn't want to be in this world because of a birth defect or sickness/disease. I mean someone forced them to be born so I should have the free will to kill them and help them out.

Every human being has the right to life, even a baby. Every human being DOES NOT have the right to being comfortable their whole life or never having to deal with difficult times. I don't have to right to take another human beings life so that my life may be more comfortable. Otherwise, we would have way more murders than we do now.

Are doctors right 100% of the time? NOPE Just cause a doctor says the baby MIGHT be deformed or the mother MIGHT die having the child doesnt mean that it is absolutely going to happen.

Your logic is so laughable. I will come back to this thread and read your posts whenever I am having a bad day. Very comedic material.

"Difficult times" and being FORCED to push an 8 pound baby out of hole the size of a bean aren't quite the same thing. Go ask your girlfriend to put her fist in your ass and and then squeeze really hard while shes pushing it in there and tell me you'd describe it as 'a difficult time'. :jerkit:
And what you're describing in your little "free will to murder" retort....HELLO...The justice system has already been doing this for a very long time. Go down to the police station, take that little police man test, and after a few years maybe you'll be high enough up in the department to fry some murdering scum.

Seriously dude, just stop because the further you go into this the more irrational you look.

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I also believe that He is in control and that if a woman gets pregnant for any reason, that it was God's will. If He didn't want it to happen then it wouldn't happen.

If this is your best defense in the matter than you obviously didn't think it through very far, because if this is what you believe, then by your very own logic it is Gods will that a woman is not forced to carry a sick child to term. Cause if God didn't want abortions to happen then they wouldn't right?

Doctors may not be right 100% of the time but any half intelligent person is aware of the improvements that have been made in ultrasound technology in recent years, and with the image quality that is available now-a-days any doctor who can't look at a screen and tell whether or not a baby has 5 extra legs growing out of it's rib cage shouldn't be practicing medicine. Plus there's this thing called prenatal care (if you were a woman you wouldn't be so oblivious to it) where special doctors can preform an array of very specific and accurate tests to check for problems with the baby. I would rather a woman be able to get an abortion, than be forced to birth a child she knows has Down Syndrome, or another child attached to it via the brain stem. And if what you say about Gods will is true then I guess God would like it that way too. I WIN

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Killing sick young is part of nature.

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So is adoption. These two concepts exist in nature every day side by side, and when you get down to it man is nothing more than a literate mammal. Deal with it. My argument isn't falling on deaf ears. Just stupid ones.
 
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So is adoption. These two concepts exist in nature every day side by side, and when you get down to it man is nothing more than a literate mammal. Deal with it. My argument isn't falling on deaf ears. Just stupid ones. WORD!
No according to the bible and people who abuse animals, we are the chosen beasts to sit at the right hand of god, the rest of the animals on Earth were just put here for our amusement and for food....I hate people who think they are above being animals, bull fucking shit given the right amount of pressure almost any human will snap like a pitbull....I've seen scrawny nerds get pissed off and go savage.

I spend a lot of time with my dogs and they each have a personality just like any human I have known, they can be devious as any human. One time I gave them treats to chew on and my shy pup Zeus saw that his brother had a larger treat than him so while his brother was busy thanking me for the treat Zeus ran over quietly laid his treat down and grabbed the larger one...
 
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I love how the little boy's like checking the other kids pulse lol.
 
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That bus drivers probably acted like that before, and that kid had e-fucking-nough
 
No your Logic isn't even Logical, it's emotion....on my Planet we terminate lives before they gain the CNS just as yours does and it is the logical thing to do. Many of these children are not wanted, many will end up in broken homes or non-traditional families. Which by the way is the reason your kind says gay couples shouldn't adopt, because they will end up that way. You want all those women not to abort but if a gay couple wants to adopt one it's "Oh Helll NOOO!" But I digress, the logical way of controlling the Population explosion is to allow abortions....Spock out...
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we should test AKIRA's wolf or man debate on her.
 
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