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If the Election were tomorrow?
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Stick vs Dale
I wanna watch ...
BoneCrusher said:
Perv.
In all truthfulness, as i said, I follow stickboy on everything that is not religion based, ie war and taxes.
I'll tell you a secret Dale but you gotta promise not to tell anyone ...
I promise not to tell anyone. but I also promise to break that promise.
Well as long as you promised Dale. I am not crying about social sec since I
But shhhh ... you promised.
I am also gonna erase this post in an hour too ...
But shhhh ... you promised.
I am also gonna erase this post in an hour too ...
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Can you do the same thing at the Electoral College?Robert DiMaggio said:wow!
Kerry is killing Bush in this poll!
This will be the bigest factor in the recounts after the election ... who is best at rigging it. The morality of our leaders is in the farking toilet.Robert DiMaggio said:
Come now, Bush won fair and square.BoneCrusher said:This will be the bigest factor in the recounts after the election ... who is best at rigging it. The morality of our leaders is in the farking toilet.
???The vote total was certified by Florida's secretary of state, Katherine Harris, head of the Bush campaign in Florida, on behalf of Gov. Jeb Bush, the candidate's brother.??? Mark Zoller Seitz, ???Bush Team Conveyed an Air of Legitimacy,??? San Diego Union-Tribune, December 16, 2000.
The Florida Department of State awarded a $4 million contract to the Boca Raton-based Database Technologies Inc. (subsidiary of ChoicePoint). They were tasked with finding improperly registered voters in the state???s database, but mistakes were rampant. ???At one point, the list included as felons 8,000 former Texas residents who had been convicted of misdemeanors.??? St. Petersburg Times (Florida), December 21, 2003.
Database Technologies, a subsidiary of ChoicePoint, ???was responsible for bungling an overhaul of Florida???s voter registration records, with the result that thousands of people, disproportionately black, were disenfranchised in the 2000 election. Had they been able to vote, they might have swung the state, and thus the presidency, for Al Gore, who lost in Florida. Oliver Burkeman, Jo Tuckman, ???Firm in Florida Election Fiasco Earns Millions from Files on Foreigners,??? The Guardian, May 5, 2003 http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,949709,00.html. See also, Atlanta-Journal-Constitution, May 28, 2001.
In 1997, Rick Rozar, the late head of the company bought by ChoicePoint, donated $100,000 to the Republican National Committee. Melanie Eversley, ???Atlanta-Based Company Says Errors in Felon Purge Not Its Fault,??? Atlanta Journal-Constitution, May 28, 2001. Frank Borman of Database Technologies Inc. has donated extensively to New Mexico Republicans, as well as to the Presidential campaign of George W. Bush. Opensecrets.org, ???Frank Borman.???
Dale Mabry said:
What are you basing that on? How do you know that is where the cure is found? The researchers sure as hell can't find it.
Embryonic stem cells have never cured anything.
Hey.. We all know IM doesnt have 144 users!Robert DiMaggio said:wow!
Kerry is killing Bush in this poll!
Take the BS out of BUSH what do you haveStickboy said:Maniclion,
You can't spell KERRY without the KY
UH? Exactly!
Yeah, I was gonna post the whole thing like that too, then decided against it.
If you spell KerrY without the KY, you are left with err.
err ( P )
intr.v. erred, err·ing, errs
To make an error or a mistake.
To violate accepted moral standards; sin.
Archaic. To stray.
Hmm, seems to fit eh?
If you spell BusH without the BS, you are left with us.
See? One is an error, the other is just "us".
Jeez, I crack myself up
Edit: LOL, sometimes things just don't go to plan I'll leave it up.
If you spell KerrY without the KY, you are left with err.
err ( P )
intr.v. erred, err·ing, errs
To make an error or a mistake.
To violate accepted moral standards; sin.
Archaic. To stray.
Hmm, seems to fit eh?
If you spell BusH without the BS, you are left with us.
See? One is an error, the other is just "us".
Jeez, I crack myself up Edit: LOL, sometimes things just don't go to plan
I'll leave it up.
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maniclion said:
After all, his daddy did much the same the same thing in the original October Surprise. At the same time he was prolonging the release of the American hostages, he also held back the indictment of his son Neil Bush for his part in the Silverado Savings & Loan scandal untill after Ronnie's inaugural address. It all comes down to ally fighting. Kerry does not have the background to get it done ... but Bush? It is almost a genetically enhanced skill-set.
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Stickboy said:
Dude, I'm on your side and even I can see your spelling error.
It's OK Stick ... we know you do the best you can with what you have. 
Bush is practicing his voting fraud tactics for the election. He just messed up and pumped up the wrong person.
Stickboy said:
Somebody needs to tell the native Americans that. And then we need to ask the question. . ."whose judeo-christian beliefs?" After all, there are sure a lot of denominations crowing this line that weren't around back then - and quite a few who broke away from the established "judeo-christian beliefs" that the original denominations brought over out of disagreement over those beliefs. Quakers had a rather large influence during the formative years of our country's history. . .and they strongly disagree with much of the "religious" right. Is this the point where the right wing self-proclaimed "christians" start listing the denominations that don't agree with them as NOT being judeo-christian?
And how about some of those beliefs that we've cast aside. . .particularly the idea that women are basically property and cannot hold property on their own, nor should they vote because their emotional makeup wasn't created to make decisions. Or the racial belief that anyone other than those of selective European heritage were created to be slaves or to dwell on a different continent. I always find that generalized argument about "judeo-christian" beliefs curious, since they assume churches are the definition of morality and this nation usually made a distinction between morality and religion for obvious reasons.
For a right wing supporter, this "values" system makes some sense. After all, religion is usually exempt from every non-discrimination law in housing, employment, or accommodation, and yet is protected more than anyone else in this country, even though it is not an implicit characteristic. No one is born a member of a denomination, or naturally "righteous." When they right hides behind those vague beliefs, it only reinforces the idea that they advocate theocracy and persecution.
As for "family values," whose family are you talking about imposing this vague notion of values on? It seems like the Party constantly fails to make a distinction between innate characteristics of people and harmful social behavior. That's part of the persecution complex.
Luke. Notice how bush is leaning towards Kerry like Bush is Kerry's bitch?
kbm8795 said:
First, nice post.
I think it depends on the member of the religious right. While I may not like a particular church or individuals religious view on something, it doesn't necessarily mean they are not christian. (Believe it or not, I am not as far right as some of you seem to think.)
Beliefs we've cast aside? As far a religious views go, I don't think they've been cast aside. The execution of those beliefs may have changed, but everything eventually changes (social aspects). Churches do NOT define morality. God did that when he gave us the 10 commandments.
Think about it. If everyone followed those 10 simple rules (and most of us do, religious or not) we wouldn't need police, lawyers, the military, etc.
Values are good, in most cases. Without them, it would be chaos. Everyone values something, be it religious or not (could be love, money, sex, etc.). Human nature is what it is. People generally look out for #1.
I always tell my wife that perceptions can be a dangerous thing. If you are percieved as (fill in blank) by someone, then that is generally going to change the relationship you have with them. Sometimes in the positive, sometimes in the negative. Perceptions are how others see you, and how you see them.
Doesn't mean those perceptions are correct.
When I say "family values", I mean mine, and mine only. One can only speak for himself/herself. When a politician says "family values", you have to have a read on his background and past behaviours to see what they truly mean.
