IGF-1 long r3

[pengers84]

has anyone used this? i havent been able 2 find much info on it? is there many sides? how much and long do you take it? i read the thread about the oral form, that sounds good 2 me, has anyone used it?

 

[Mudge]

1mg lasts most people a month, going over a month is a waste in most circumstances.

Oral doses are twice as high.

Media grade 1mg will run you about $175 or so, receptor grade costs over $200. Pretty expensive for 4 weeks, unless you are specifically looking at it for something roids can't do for you. Lots of dissapointed people out there, some actually like it.

Read up heavily on preperation, people still debate that.

 

[mmorpheuss]

I'm sure there are other good companies out there, but I used MR's product for approx. 20 days. Gained muscle at a noticeably better rate while bulking than I have previously without IGF.


More importantly, I was eating like there was no tomorrow and it was blowing my mind to see my waistline getting smaller. Its a damn shame this stuff has to be cycled to stay effective or I would never come off the stuff.

 

[mmorpheuss]

I ordered 2 kits of the Oral yesterday. For sure I will beat the pots and pans if it is anything close to its advertisements.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

Mudge what do you mean by this?

"receptor grade costs over $200" is there somthing that has to be used after the IGF cycle? Like clomid or tamox after test?

 

[Pirate!]

I was just going to start a thread on this today. IBE is making some pretty serious claims:

This product that we are offering will be the most talked about supplement introduction of its time. We know this product is not only groundbreaking and milestone setting in the muscle building supplement industry, but will define the direction of overall nutritional supplementation bringing us into the Next Generation of Nutritional Science.

I'll wait and see what real results people get. I'm also curious as to health effects.

http://www.ibenutrition.com/oratropin.htm

 

[Mudge]

"receptor grade costs over $200" is there somthing that has to be used after the IGF cycle? Like clomid or tamox after test?

There is no post cycle requirement, no. Receptor grade is the more expensive, more effective injectable LR3 IGF-1 compared to the regular injectable.

 

[mmorpheuss]

MR has stated the potency of his media grade is 95% compared to the 99% potency of receptor grade.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

thanx mudge and what the difference between the inj and tab form?

 

[Mudge]

Oral I believe is sublinqual, not swallowed - this is to avoid stomach acid destruction.

Injectable is believed to offer site enhancement, one mod on another board claimed 1/2" on his arms while dropping bodyfat in 4 weeks time. JohnnyB, who is well known on various boards.

 

[SJA]

It is also being speculated that Oratropin could be used as a bridge between cycles (during PCT) to help maintain new mass. This will definitely be interesting.

 

[Mudge]

What do you mean speculated? Its been done since its inception as an injectable.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

From what has been said above results that it s a kind of miracle drug.....right?
Mudge have you tried it or not and why?

 

[Mudge]

Its a miracle for some, but for many it is dissapointing. With an oral delivery system though that would rule out the suspension material arguments (BA or bacteriostatic water), but it also rules out site enhancement.

$200 for results I can get off gear for the most part, maybe some other time. GH though I am again considering, but not at any 4iu+ a day, too much moola.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

Im not sure whether I understood corectly, bro, what should I ry oral or onj form?

 

[Pirate!]

How long of a cycle do people normally do? I'm considering trying the oral version that ibe just put out.

 

[Mudge]

Im not sure whether I understood corectly, bro, what should I ry oral or onj form?

Its your money bro, I wont take the plunge just yet myself.

25-30 days is typical.

 

[Pirate!]

Thanks, Mudge. Yep, it is pricey. I'm more concerned with potential health problems, though.

 

[mmorpheuss]

IMO, go with the more proven product. (not the oral)

If you're afraid of injecting, don't be. ED injections with a slin pin delts, bis, tris, etc., feel literally nonexistent.

 

[mmorpheuss]

Thanks, Mudge. Yep, it is pricey. I'm more concerned with potential health problems, though.

What potential health problems? Muscle growth? Fat loss?

Seriously though, I have yet to hear of any serious health issues. But I'm sure somebody out there has had a problem with this stuff. If the bubble-gummers found a way to villainize ephedrine, I'm sure they can make IGF out to be just as deadly i.e., administration during a 3 day fast or something.

 

[Mudge]

Thanks, Mudge. Yep, it is pricey. I'm more concerned with potential health problems, though.

Put yourself on a 1200 calorie a day diet, and live a happy, skinny life.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

I didt mean the price, but OK which one is more expensive. I dont have problems with injections, I inject prop+trenevery day now, no problem.

and then I thougt that its to be taken during a diet of lets say 6-7thousand calories which is a diet done now in a cycle.

 

[mmorpheuss]

The cost is relatively the same at 40mcg/day.


IMO, since you have previous experience with anabolics, I would run the injectable form while on a bulking cycle and compare your gains with IGF-1 as opposed to your previous results without it.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

you mean roids + IGF1 versus roids only, right?
cause I was wondering about using this stuff off cycle...

 

[mmorpheuss]

Yes I was implying IGF while on cycle. Some people have used it off cycle and liked it, I personally have not yet used it in that manner, though I plan to shortly.


IMHO, the results almost made a bulking cycle without IGF-1 look like a waste of gear.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

do you use it then in every cycle with roids? You mean that you never make a "roids only cycle" ?

 

[mmorpheuss]

It's not feasible to use it like that unless you limit your cycles to 30 days or less.

I have only experimented with this once, about a month and a half ago, at the end of an 8 weeker. I saw stunning results to say the least.

I would have started up again by now, but decided to hold off and give the Oral form a go.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

I start to like you, man
thanks for your reactions

so you used it in the end of a cycle for 30 days 40mcg constantly?

 

[mmorpheuss]

That is correct.

 

[Martin Smolinsk]

OK I ll try thanx, bro