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Carnivore is old hat, try magic lantern... oh wait, my bad... The US denies it is in use.
scary scary shit people.
scary scary shit people.
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Great thing about vBulletin message boards (such as this) is that private messaging is pretty damn secure. Mods and admins can't read your PM's, and it would be very, very, very hard for the government to.
Not if they get permission to log your transfers via your ISP, or someone figures out that your password being your dogs name. Sourcing by PMs got one moderator booted from another board, although he ended up scamming people as well. The pictures he used of himself weren't even him.
Secure email is acceptable.
Secure email is acceptable.
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Anyone stupid enough to use an easy password (like their dog's name or 12345) deserves to get in trouble.
I've tested the security on a few vBulletin boards by trying to access PM's. Even as admin, I could never find a way to do it.
I agree, though - e-mail is safer. Secure e-mail, not some lame e-mail like Hotmail.
I've tested the security on a few vBulletin boards by trying to access PM's. Even as admin, I could never find a way to do it.
I agree, though - e-mail is safer. Secure e-mail, not some lame e-mail like Hotmail.
Yep. Hotmail + encryption is worth something, but it doesn't offer a masked IP.
http://www.networldmap.com/TryIt.htm
With encryption at the client, even if you were being monitored your email is not sent in the clear over the net, perfect
http://www.networldmap.com/TryIt.htm
With encryption at the client, even if you were being monitored your email is not sent in the clear over the net, perfect
Yep with Halloween coming, you can't go without a masked IP. 
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Bahahahahaha!Originally posted by Randy
Yep with Halloween coming, you can't go without a masked IP.
I have my own servers, and hence my own mail. I need to figure out if it's completely secure. I'll ask my server guru friend next time I see him.
Evil, there are several utilities that you can run to check for security holes. One that I use is called netbrute. You can perform port and IP scans to look for those loopholes. You would be surprised what can get in. When scanning netbios ports its funny to see how many are vulnerable.
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I suck more than words can describe when it comes to server maintenance and all that fun stuff. I know a little, but not much at all. That's where my tech genius friends come in. I'm more of the graphic and web design guy. It's what I do for work, actually.
Any heavy coding, site security, or server work, I have my friends do. Just like they have me do all their graphic and design work.
Any heavy coding, site security, or server work, I have my friends do. Just like they have me do all their graphic and design work.
Mudge,
What do you mean that traceroute is not secure? Traceroute is a tool to measure the hops from one router to another for troubleshooting purposes mainly. Traceroute is not intended to be secure.
I must of misunderstood your wording.
What do you mean that traceroute is not secure? Traceroute is a tool to measure the hops from one router to another for troubleshooting purposes mainly. Traceroute is not intended to be secure.
I must of misunderstood your wording.
Yes Evil, Server security is definately in a class of its own.
Can definately get tricky. You can work in the business all your life and still not know it all.
Can definately get tricky. You can work in the business all your life and still not know it all.
Anyway, sorry to intrude here... Just thought Netbrute might help you find those security holes.
Bro, it is a BIG HELLO, not only your box sees those packets. Normal people think that you have a direct connection when you talk to a host. There are many points at which the feds or etc can monitor your packets and pass them onto you as if nothing happened (man in the middle 'attack').
That is why I say nothing is secure communications wise, when talking email this means pretty much anything sent in the clear. Cyber rights and etc mask your IP, encrypt at the client before sending over the net, yada yada. I run a mailserver also and I wouldn't use it as a means of buying shoes on the net if I didn't want someone to know about it.
Absolutely Mudge,
I agree with you 100 percent. And the cases of identity thefts are rising big time. Many people just shrug their shoulders when you tell them how insecure internet communication can be. They don't seem to care and go on their shopping spree's without a worry. If I buy something over the net, I call their 800 number and order it that way.
I worked for a router manufacturer and helped design firewalls and configure L2TP and IPSEC VPN's .. Well the L2TP VPN data could be compromised pretty easy, the L2TP/IPSEC Tunnel due to its increased encryption was much tougher. It is pretty intreresting and beneficial to keep up with the latest security techniques.
Again, didn't mean to intrude in your conversation, just thought I could help when I seen you were talking about security issues.
I agree with you 100 percent. And the cases of identity thefts are rising big time. Many people just shrug their shoulders when you tell them how insecure internet communication can be. They don't seem to care and go on their shopping spree's without a worry. If I buy something over the net, I call their 800 number and order it that way.
I worked for a router manufacturer and helped design firewalls and configure L2TP and IPSEC VPN's .. Well the L2TP VPN data could be compromised pretty easy, the L2TP/IPSEC Tunnel due to its increased encryption was much tougher. It is pretty intreresting and beneficial to keep up with the latest security techniques.
Again, didn't mean to intrude in your conversation, just thought I could help when I seen you were talking about security issues.
That email link reminds me of that movie where they tracked the guys via satelite and knew about their every move. If they used anything electronic they were on to them.
I can't remember the name of the movie, but I'm sure you've seen it.
I can't remember the name of the movie, but I'm sure you've seen it.
Dunno, haven't seen some of the more modern movies that deal with "hacker" types. Mitnick was caught with cell site triangulation by I believe tracking the actual frequency on the phone, since he somehow fooled the system into thinking he was in several different areas at once.
I used to want a POCSAG decoder, L0pht had some kits out there for this stuff but it didn't last long, I guess it was kind of a proof of concept fun-thing only. I got into radio scanning for awhile, but at my age I missed out on most of the good Rat-Shack items, and of course now cell monitoring is nothing like it was in the old days, so a pro 2010 is about worthless now for that kind of thing.
I have some old clips of a person who was not only listening to cell converstations, but broadcasting in the middle making it a 3 way conversation, pretty funny stuff even though a bit immature.
Anything electronic does give off "noise" in terms of electron radiation I guess it would be called. What is kind of interesting on the low end of things, is the light on the back of a NIC can be monitored and you can decode what is being transfered, I forget at what speed though - 10mbit max? I dont know how fast the reaction time of the LEDs are. Another is radiation given off by the computer monitors, and the lengths at which the feds go to protect thier own stuff from leaks of this kind.
Ok I remember the movie now. It was called "Enemy of the State" with Gene Hackman and Will Smith. Awsome movie. If you haven't seen it, you should rent it.
As for cell phone scanning, I remember those days. All you had to do is lock your radio shack scanner into 46 to 49 Mhz. That was before they changed the phones to 800 Mhz. Then all you had to do is cut a diode on certain model radio shack units to get both phones and cells. Now the phones are up to 2.4 Ghz, not sure what they are doing now . But I was always paranoid to talk on a cordless phone after finding out how easy it was to listen in on others. (Not that I made a habit of doing so or anything). Was just an experimental phase ya know.
Now as far as decoding nic cards via their led, that is a new one on me.
Radiation on monitors have always been a concern, but the new ones are much more safe than the old ones. You know your getting far to much radiation when your hair starts falling out after a couple hours of typing.
As for cell phone scanning, I remember those days.
All you had to do is lock your radio shack scanner into 46 to 49 Mhz. That was before they changed the phones to 800 Mhz. Then all you had to do is cut a diode on certain model radio shack units to get both phones and cells. Now the phones are up to 2.4 Ghz, not sure what they are doing now . But I was always paranoid to talk on a cordless phone after finding out how easy it was to listen in on others. (Not that I made a habit of doing so or anything). Was just an experimental phase ya know. Now as far as decoding nic cards via their led, that is a new one on me.
Radiation on monitors have always been a concern, but the new ones are much more safe than the old ones. You know your getting far to much radiation when your hair starts falling out after a couple hours of typing.
Well I think I'm going to go finish my workout. Today is Chest and Legs day for me. Working on 300lbs... I'm very close.
It's not bad for me, since I was never a bench guy. Weighing 220 makes it a bit easier to conquer the goal as well.
It's not bad for me, since I was never a bench guy. Weighing 220 makes it a bit easier to conquer the goal as well.
Some of the scanners could do the 800MHz frequency natively, then later the feds made them block it out. This is when the modding started happening (Bill Cheek), although later the function for certain frequency ranges was removed from the chip inside the scanner altogether when they went digital.
Bill Cheek died a couple years back.
Bill Cheek died a couple years back.
The modding occured shortly after the introduction of the 800 Mhz scanners. They were constructed to block out cell phones. You could take certain models of the 800Mhz scanners and clip the diodes to open up the cell frequency. Then they started cracking down on that and made it very hard for people to do that. After that those 800Mhz diode clipable models were like gold, everyone wanted them .
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