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Jason Giambi admits to steroid use
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I Are Baboon said:
Why are you shocked?
Is it because he lost 30lb over a period of 2 months?
That and the fact that his name has been tied to steroid use for two years now while he's been denying it whole time. Plus, looked what happened when he stopped using them. His skills went right to hell.
The Yankees still owe him $83 million and he SUCKS.
The Yankees still owe him $83 million and he SUCKS.
I Are Baboon said:That and the fact that his name has been tied to steroid use for two years now while he's been denying it whole time. Plus, looked what happened when he stopped using them. His skills went right to hell.
The Yankees still owe him $83 million and he SUCKS.
I don't blame him for denying it. The stigma's attached to steroids use are ridiculous.
It's just funny how he made up the whole getting "sick" thing as an excuse for losing all that weight and sucking.
But i don't think him coming off is the reason for his being terrible. Sure, steroids MAY help the ball go a tad farther, but it's not gonna make you hit that 90mph fastball.
and the Yanks still owe him $83 million
....and now i wonder if maybe Bonds ever took steroids MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Flex said:
Bons will continue to deny it until he is brought before a grand jury. Beng the religious guy that he is, I can't imagine him swearing on the Bible then lying.
Wanna bet??I Are Baboon said:
Bons will continue to deny it until he is brought before a grand jury. Beng the religious guy that he is, I can't imagine him swearing on the Bible then lying.
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P-funk said:
Probably "Hey man, do you know where I can get some cheap Nitro-Tech?"
I like taking Jason Giambi's quotes out of context.
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So of course the first thing i see on the front page of the paper this morning is a few articles tearing into Giambi for using steroids. They liken him to a junkie. ARE THEY SERIOUS?
Guess what, you fuckin' idiots out there? steroids haven't even been illegal in the MLB until "this past year".
Guess what, you fuckin' idiots out there? steroids haven't even been illegal in the MLB until "this past year".
Flex said:
Yeah, I don't think you can parallel steroid use to, say, a coke addict.
The NY media is absolutely destroying Giambi. It's unmerciful!!!
hey IAB, you're from CT, right?
if you get the Hartford Courant, check it out in the near future. i wrote a "letter to the editor" about one of the articles on Giambi. I bashed that fucker (the editor), b/c he's such an assuming prick with NO facts to back up his claims.
if you get the Hartford Courant, check it out in the near future. i wrote a "letter to the editor" about one of the articles on Giambi. I bashed that fucker (the editor), b/c he's such an assuming prick with NO facts to back up his claims.
Which writer pissed you off? I am going to guess it was Jeff Jacobs. That guy is a fucking idiot who doesn't know his head from his ass. Taken from his "article:"
Giambi doesn't have to worry about prison. He's a junkie. He's a liar. He's a cheater. He also looks to be untouchable. Except, of course, for the ravages of steroids that could mean an early death. Do you think Donald Fehr will attend the funeral? Will Gene Orza remember to send the floral arrangement?
Funny, I have not read anyone in the NY media calling him a junkie. A cheater yes, but not a junkie.
Giambi doesn't have to worry about prison. He's a junkie. He's a liar. He's a cheater. He also looks to be untouchable. Except, of course, for the ravages of steroids that could mean an early death. Do you think Donald Fehr will attend the funeral? Will Gene Orza remember to send the floral arrangement?
Funny, I have not read anyone in the NY media calling him a junkie. A cheater yes, but not a junkie.
GOOD GUESS!!!!!!! HAHA it was that dick. here's what i wrote to him, let me know what you think:
This is in response to Jeff Jacobs' article on Friday, December 3, entitled "Financially, This Cheater Will Still Prosper."
Mr. Jacobs, Abraham Lincoln said, "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." Please don't misunderstand me, I never thought you were a fool, in fact, i previously enjoyed your articles in the sports section. That is until you didn't "remain silent" when you chose to "speak out" about something you clearly know little, and almost surely nothing about.
What I'm talking about, Mr. Jacobs, is your pathetic attempt to belittle steroids. Let me ask you a question, Mr. Jacobs. What do you know about steroids? Now I'm not asking about what you think you know because of what you saw on the "story of the week" on some TV show or what you read in an article in some newspaper. What FACTS do you actually know about steroids? My guess is that you know absolutley nothing. If I am mistaking, and you do, in fact, know something, or anything for that matter, about steriods, clearly it is not very much judging by your article. Instead, why not put your time, and good writing skills, to a better use? Perhaps write about the dangers of some "legal" drugs, cigarettes and alcohol. Combined, cigarettes and alcohol, both of these accepted, legal drugs, have killed 100% more people than anabolic steriods ever have, and for that matter, ever will, because steroids have never killed anyone. Show me a study, Mr. Jacobs, or ANYTHING for that matter, that proves "the ravages of steriods could lead to an early death". That is complete nonsense.
There are too many quotes of yours that I could endlessly debate, but I'll just choose my "favorites"....
"He is a junkie. He is a liar. He is a cheater."
To put it bluntly, Mr. Jacobs, let me explain to you why you are wrong. In today's society, where I thought people were getting better than to stereotype others on a mere whim, it seems I was wrong. People who use steroids are junkies? Are you even trying to be serious? We're not talking about street heroin here. We are talking about drugs that are prescribed to patients by doctors in the United States, and are actually legal over-the-counter drugs in many other countries around the world. Sure, steriod ABUSE is harmful. But name an abuse that ISN'T (gambling? alcohol? anything?).
To label Mr. Giambi as a "junkie" because he used steroids is a pretty pathetic attempt at trying to give your story the media's coveted "shock value" to make your story seem interesting. So, world reknowned superstar, 7-Time Mr. Olympia, current Governor of the State of California, and one of the biggest, if not the biggest movies stars in history, Arnold Schwarzenegger, he can be labeled by you a "junkie" in a single word?
Secondly, sure Mr. Giambi may have lied. Why do you think he did so, Mr. Jacobs? Well, I'll tell you why,for the same reason Arnold always denied it, because people know nothing about steriods. When people know nothing about something, they start assuming. It reminds me of the Salem Witch trials or McCarthyism. It's people like you, the media, and especially the sports media, look for EVERY single little "nothing" and try to make it into "something". Is just reporting who won the game not enough anymore? Must you hold ahtletes under microscopes and crucify them because they choose to live their lives the same as you and I, minus the attention? Should they be held more accountable for their actions because they are famous and your kids look up them? Absolutely not. It's not Mr. Giambi's fault your kids' hearts will be broken when this story hits the news. It's yours because of your slanderous nonsense. Would it have been better had he told the truth to begin with? Perhaps. Mr. Giambi lied because he knew what kind of contempt society views steroids, and it's that same mindset that you share, Mr. Jacobs, which is that of making judgments about something you know nothing about. Did Arnold lie? Sort of. Why? Because he knew that if he would've admitted to using steroids every teenage who ever picked up a dumbell would go out and try them. Is that his fault? No. It's the fault of parents who allow their children to mindlessly worship those people and things that aren't important in life, like athletes, instead of their own family and friends and values.
Thirdly, Mr. Giambi is not a cheater. Like you even stated in your article, "in 2003, when Giambi admitted he was using, there was no punishment-only a survey-in place." So, Mr. Jacobs, it's clearly NOT cheating when there are NO steroids laws in MLB. By your logic, Allen Iverson should also be held in contempt of cheating. He carries the ball, an illegal action, almost every single time down the court, yet he does so because the NBA doesn't enforce it. Should he be castrated? How about Shaquille O'Neal? He uses his mammoth size and has his way with defenders in the paint, which is "against" the rules. Should he be punished? In Mr. Giambi's case, there WERE NOT even any MLB rules in place that made steriods illegal. Did he have an unfair advantage? Perhaps. Maybe the ball traveled a few feet further after he crushed the ball.
But "if Giambi hadn't hit those two homeruns in Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS, it would only have been an 85-year Red Sox curse.", COME ON!!! So if Giambi hadn't used steroids the Red Sox would've won the series, went on to the World Series, and won that??? Mr. Jacobs, surely you're smarter than that. AGAIN, steroids won't make you hit homeruns, nevermind even help you connect with a 90+MPH fastball. What they WILL do is MAYBE give the ball a few more feet if you DO happen to connect.
So please, Mr. Jacobs, do us a favor from now on and use Honest Abe's advice. Please "remain silent" on issues you know nothing about, that way you won't seem so foolish. As a matter of fact, prove your not a fool and take steroids. Then you could be a Major League ballplayer and be hitting homeruns because it's that easy, right? And if you think I wrote this article because I'm a bitter, resentful Yankee fan, and I'm protecting one of my players, you're dead wrong. In fact, I'm actually a DIE HARD Red Sox fan.
Sincerely,
AJ
p.s. To the H.C. sports staff:
FYI: The information that you posted on the feminine drug Clomid is wrong. It doesn't "enhance the effect of testosterone and mask the use of steroids in drug tests."
Clomid is used as a recovery drug during Post-cycle Therapy after a cycle of steroids. It gets your natural testosterone production going again, because your natural testosterone gets shut down once steroids (synthetic testerone) are introduced into your body.
This is in response to Jeff Jacobs' article on Friday, December 3, entitled "Financially, This Cheater Will Still Prosper."
Mr. Jacobs, Abraham Lincoln said, "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." Please don't misunderstand me, I never thought you were a fool, in fact, i previously enjoyed your articles in the sports section. That is until you didn't "remain silent" when you chose to "speak out" about something you clearly know little, and almost surely nothing about.
What I'm talking about, Mr. Jacobs, is your pathetic attempt to belittle steroids. Let me ask you a question, Mr. Jacobs. What do you know about steroids? Now I'm not asking about what you think you know because of what you saw on the "story of the week" on some TV show or what you read in an article in some newspaper. What FACTS do you actually know about steroids? My guess is that you know absolutley nothing. If I am mistaking, and you do, in fact, know something, or anything for that matter, about steriods, clearly it is not very much judging by your article. Instead, why not put your time, and good writing skills, to a better use? Perhaps write about the dangers of some "legal" drugs, cigarettes and alcohol. Combined, cigarettes and alcohol, both of these accepted, legal drugs, have killed 100% more people than anabolic steriods ever have, and for that matter, ever will, because steroids have never killed anyone. Show me a study, Mr. Jacobs, or ANYTHING for that matter, that proves "the ravages of steriods could lead to an early death". That is complete nonsense.
There are too many quotes of yours that I could endlessly debate, but I'll just choose my "favorites"....
"He is a junkie. He is a liar. He is a cheater."
To put it bluntly, Mr. Jacobs, let me explain to you why you are wrong. In today's society, where I thought people were getting better than to stereotype others on a mere whim, it seems I was wrong. People who use steroids are junkies? Are you even trying to be serious? We're not talking about street heroin here. We are talking about drugs that are prescribed to patients by doctors in the United States, and are actually legal over-the-counter drugs in many other countries around the world. Sure, steriod ABUSE is harmful. But name an abuse that ISN'T (gambling? alcohol? anything?).
To label Mr. Giambi as a "junkie" because he used steroids is a pretty pathetic attempt at trying to give your story the media's coveted "shock value" to make your story seem interesting. So, world reknowned superstar, 7-Time Mr. Olympia, current Governor of the State of California, and one of the biggest, if not the biggest movies stars in history, Arnold Schwarzenegger, he can be labeled by you a "junkie" in a single word?
Secondly, sure Mr. Giambi may have lied. Why do you think he did so, Mr. Jacobs? Well, I'll tell you why,for the same reason Arnold always denied it, because people know nothing about steriods. When people know nothing about something, they start assuming. It reminds me of the Salem Witch trials or McCarthyism. It's people like you, the media, and especially the sports media, look for EVERY single little "nothing" and try to make it into "something". Is just reporting who won the game not enough anymore? Must you hold ahtletes under microscopes and crucify them because they choose to live their lives the same as you and I, minus the attention? Should they be held more accountable for their actions because they are famous and your kids look up them? Absolutely not. It's not Mr. Giambi's fault your kids' hearts will be broken when this story hits the news. It's yours because of your slanderous nonsense. Would it have been better had he told the truth to begin with? Perhaps. Mr. Giambi lied because he knew what kind of contempt society views steroids, and it's that same mindset that you share, Mr. Jacobs, which is that of making judgments about something you know nothing about. Did Arnold lie? Sort of. Why? Because he knew that if he would've admitted to using steroids every teenage who ever picked up a dumbell would go out and try them. Is that his fault? No. It's the fault of parents who allow their children to mindlessly worship those people and things that aren't important in life, like athletes, instead of their own family and friends and values.
Thirdly, Mr. Giambi is not a cheater. Like you even stated in your article, "in 2003, when Giambi admitted he was using, there was no punishment-only a survey-in place." So, Mr. Jacobs, it's clearly NOT cheating when there are NO steroids laws in MLB. By your logic, Allen Iverson should also be held in contempt of cheating. He carries the ball, an illegal action, almost every single time down the court, yet he does so because the NBA doesn't enforce it. Should he be castrated? How about Shaquille O'Neal? He uses his mammoth size and has his way with defenders in the paint, which is "against" the rules. Should he be punished? In Mr. Giambi's case, there WERE NOT even any MLB rules in place that made steriods illegal. Did he have an unfair advantage? Perhaps. Maybe the ball traveled a few feet further after he crushed the ball.
But "if Giambi hadn't hit those two homeruns in Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS, it would only have been an 85-year Red Sox curse.", COME ON!!! So if Giambi hadn't used steroids the Red Sox would've won the series, went on to the World Series, and won that??? Mr. Jacobs, surely you're smarter than that. AGAIN, steroids won't make you hit homeruns, nevermind even help you connect with a 90+MPH fastball. What they WILL do is MAYBE give the ball a few more feet if you DO happen to connect.
So please, Mr. Jacobs, do us a favor from now on and use Honest Abe's advice. Please "remain silent" on issues you know nothing about, that way you won't seem so foolish. As a matter of fact, prove your not a fool and take steroids. Then you could be a Major League ballplayer and be hitting homeruns because it's that easy, right? And if you think I wrote this article because I'm a bitter, resentful Yankee fan, and I'm protecting one of my players, you're dead wrong. In fact, I'm actually a DIE HARD Red Sox fan.
Sincerely,
AJ
p.s. To the H.C. sports staff:
FYI: The information that you posted on the feminine drug Clomid is wrong. It doesn't "enhance the effect of testosterone and mask the use of steroids in drug tests."
Clomid is used as a recovery drug during Post-cycle Therapy after a cycle of steroids. It gets your natural testosterone production going again, because your natural testosterone gets shut down once steroids (synthetic testerone) are introduced into your body.
Felx, I think Jacobs is too arrogant to admit that he does not know what he is talking about. His comments are just for the "shock factor" as you put it. He's a douche. Post in this thread if you get a response from him. 
Good letter, BTW.
Good letter, BTW.
I Are Baboon said:Post in this thread if you get a response from him.
Good letter, BTW.
thanks IAB, and IAND
I will mos def. post a response if i were ever to get one, but i doubt i will. that little cocksucker...
Thanks, Yanks
And to think, i was defending a Yankee
And to think, i was defending a Yankee
We know deep down your a closet Yankee fan.Flex said:Thanks, Yanks
And to think, i was defending a Yankee
min0 lee said:We know deep down your a closet Yankee fan.
MUWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
lol flex i love what u wrote..too bad they wont publish that..
Flex said:
What is really funny is how all these guys like Bonds, McGuire, and Giambi were obviously using steroids and all the fans buried thier head in the sand and now everyone is going to be shocked and outraged? How can anyone be so shocked and outraged? This has been pretty much common knowledge for years.
Flex said:And to think, i was defending a Yankee
I think the issue that you are addressing trancends which team a person plays for. Good letter.
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Saying they havnt been "illegal in MLB until this past year" is like saying cocaine and cannibas havnt been illegal in MLB until this past year. MLB never tested for any of them, tho all were illegal to use without a Doctors prescription and medical cause. I wouldnt equate steroid use with narcotic drugs, not by far, but still ,Baseball is a game governed by Fan opinion. And most fans detest seeing a few players get an edge over others in such a way, most of all when the games most respected records are involved.
As for myself? I couldnt give a damn about professional sports one way or another. I thought MLB was a joke long before this steroid thing came out and I wouldnt be surprised to see many,many players shrinking by about 25% now that they are going to test for steroid use. All of you who are defending Giambi let me ask you this. Do you think it would be a fair contest if some Bodybuilders used steroids and some didnt?
And using steroids most definately will help you get around on a fastball. More muscle = more fast twitch explosive power. Thats the idea! Thats why even golfers are pumping iron nowdays. I think the increase would be miniscule, and mostly in your head. But its still an edge.................Rich
As for myself? I couldnt give a damn about professional sports one way or another. I thought MLB was a joke long before this steroid thing came out and I wouldnt be surprised to see many,many players shrinking by about 25% now that they are going to test for steroid use. All of you who are defending Giambi let me ask you this. Do you think it would be a fair contest if some Bodybuilders used steroids and some didnt?
And using steroids most definately will help you get around on a fastball. More muscle = more fast twitch explosive power. Thats the idea! Thats why even golfers are pumping iron nowdays. I think the increase would be miniscule, and mostly in your head. But its still an edge.................Rich
