Kind of confused about bulking...

[IJ300]

Say I need 2800 calories to maintain weight at 155. Then add calories throught the next 5 months and weigh in at 175 by the end of the bulking phase.

But let's say I want to weigh 165 with a low bf %. So lets say I intake 3500 to get to a lean 165. So what's the point of me going to 175 and intaking 4000 + calories when I'm just going to cut back down to 165? Will I obtain more muscle if I were to go to 175 and do something like refeeds and leptin to really bring my bf % down? Hope this question makes sense.

 

[danzik17]

Because unless you're assisted, you will ALWAYS gain fat with muscle. In order to get the same 10lbs of muscle on a clean bulk with minimal fat gain, it would take far longer than to just put on some fat with it and then later cut it back off.

 

[Merkaba]

Looking at your pics you have great genetics. I think danzik hit it on the head. Clean bulking is way slower.

 

[OneWheyOrAnother]

Looking at your pics you have great genetics. I think danzik hit it on the head. Clean bulking is way slower.

It may be slower, but some of us really struggle with dropping fat

 

[IJ300]

Thanks for the responses. I guess I'm gonna have to put on a good amount of weight then. Usually I go with the slow bulking so I don't put on much fat. Looks like I'm gonna be walking around 20 lbs heavier by the end of april.

 

[juggernaut]

i have the same issues, which is why I implemented the ud2 bulk diet. I want to minimize as much fat as possible. I'm finally wrapping my head around the notion of having to put on some fat, but dont like it. So, like you, I have a contest coming in June and will gradually move into a PSMF diet, then cut with ud2 again. I'm not sure how this will pan out, but I am very interested in how it works. I should mention that this recommendation was given to me from Built. A massive source of good information.

I am also trying to be a self proclaimed source of information on the ud2 and bulking.