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Lethargy

I thought you were already using 4-ad, young d. If you are not and are cutting, ECA helps a lot, especially pre workout.
 
well i'm already taking 4derm @ 300mg/ed, i guess my dose might be too low... might up it to 400 or 500mg then and if i run over onto another bottle so be it, i hate lethargy with a passion!
 
Yeah, 500 mg/day will make it much better. You can raise it higher than that as long as you have enough nolva sitting around.
 
PirateFromHell said:
If you are not and are cutting, ECA helps a lot, especially pre workout.

decided to keep on bulking man, last week was shit, only gained 1 pound which must have been due to dropping cals and plenty of late nights, i'm so pissed off bout that... i dunno maybe i'm expect too much too soon, but its been a kick up the arse, "i'm not satisfied... i want more weight! i wanna beat him!"... :laugh: man! i been watching so much pumping iron i'm really motivated to see this cycle through now, hopefully the gains will start to show, i'll keep you informed
 
I started seeing results after about 3 weeks on 1-ad. During the 6th week, you just want to end the cycle because of the lethary. I didn't use 4-ad for my 1-ad cycles.
 
4DERM and get 7 to 8 hours of sleep.
 
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PirateFromHell said:
I started seeing results after about 3 weeks on 1-ad. During the 6th week, you just want to end the cycle because of the lethary. I didn't use 4-ad for my 1-ad cycles.

thats encouraging man coz i've just finished my second and still haven't seen much, and i got guys like simbh talking about 8-9lbs gains already, and another friend saying hes put on 6lbs clean muscle in 2 wks! and i've had none of that, just 5lbs of water and maybe 1-2lb of muscle which is more likely to be placebo, so i'm feeling a bit low because of it right now but i'm looking forward to the next week... plenty of food, pumping and humping :D
 
They gains are slow and steady, but they will come.
 
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