Im going to start a cycle of m1t and 4ad. im just trying to figure out how much trandermal 4-ad i should take to help with the lethargy and libido loss caused by the 20mg m1t. Should I take 200mg of transdermal 4-ad or should i take 400mg? any insight on this is appreciated
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How old are ya? Beleive it or not, I didn't use any 4 derm on my 20mg, 3 week cycle. I was hurtin' tho. More so from depression than loss of libido. I never quite lost "all" of it 
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I"m 20 tho.
. I"m 20 tho.
If you are taking 20 mg/day of M1T, take between 150-200 mg of 4-ad twice daily. This worked well for me. Just make sure you shake the 4-ad bottle, apply right. let dry, don't sweat off, etc....
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I didn't notice any loss at all. All I took was the M1T. I was very tired though, but I worked a lot of overtime at work during the same time
I did 3 weeks on. I am currently on a 2 week break and going for 3 more on.
One thing was the pumps on this. They were so intense they actually hurt. If you thought side laterals gave you a pump in your shoulders before, just wait!
I did 3 weeks on. I am currently on a 2 week break and going for 3 more on.
One thing was the pumps on this. They were so intense they actually hurt. If you thought side laterals gave you a pump in your shoulders before, just wait!
Maybe this is why I'm sitting here naked, contemplating life with a pair of scissors in my hand right now...NO PCT!??!?!?!?!BIG C said:
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I only took 10 mg of M1T per day and needed 200mg
of 4Derm daiy from day 3 till the end of my two week cycle.
Not sure if 20 mg I would need more. But some people say they
don't need any 4AD on M1T, so I guess you'll just have to see what makes you feel the best.
of 4Derm daiy from day 3 till the end of my two week cycle.
Not sure if 20 mg I would need more. But some people say they
don't need any 4AD on M1T, so I guess you'll just have to see what makes you feel the best.
I felt best once I started taking 4-5 sprays twice daily of 4-derm. You don't need it until day 3, but you might as well start them at the same time. You will be real horny for 3 days. 
I was doing creatine at the same time. My deltoids were sore before I even started side laterals (I do them last). I didn't attribute it to the pump, but it was only like that on the m1t. No problem now.BIG C said:
Ya, I was wondering if I will need much 4Derm if any at all when I start my M1T. I never had any energy or labido loss on 1AD, but quite the opposite. I will probably do a couple sprays twice a day for good measure, just to make sure.
What does it matter, if you grow boobs and never naturally produce testosterone again?babylon said:
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camarosuper6 said:
Link doesn't work man! get your shit straight
I think i overdid it on the 4AD, i used 5squirts 2x day, and it made me want to hump (almost) every female insight.
use two more, It's all good until you start wanting to (almost) hump the dudes too.
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