My point exactly.RCfootball87 said:
I do agree though, its good youre not drinking and partying. You shouldnt need hormones to keep you from that though.
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I do agree though, its good youre not drinking and partying. You shouldnt need hormones to keep you from that though.
About 2 months ago I would have said not worth it, but now I would say it was.
My cramping continued a minimum of 6 months past my last m1t cycle. I am much better now.
My cramping continued a minimum of 6 months past my last m1t cycle. I am much better now.
What's so crazy about that statement?Deezus said:hahahahaha, crazy kids, i swear........
What is so funny about your statement is that everyone your age says that, hell, I even said it. I am 28 right now and I still want to be bigger and faster.
Just imagine this, from age 16-25 there is 9 years. Do juice and you will have a good 9 years. What happens if you start having joint and connective tissue problems at 25 and you live to 70, you got 9 years of good times in exchange for 45 years of bad/sore joints. Not saying that this necessarily WILL happen, but it is a possibility.
Just imagine this, from age 16-25 there is 9 years. Do juice and you will have a good 9 years. What happens if you start having joint and connective tissue problems at 25 and you live to 70, you got 9 years of good times in exchange for 45 years of bad/sore joints. Not saying that this necessarily WILL happen, but it is a possibility.
No man I'm not gonna use juice til I'm 25. I'm gonna be done after august, because that will be my senior football season, and I won't play college ball even if I were to get some offers. After that I'm gonna lose most of the steroid weight and go back down to a more healthy weight, and eat and workout for health pruposes, not to build extra mass. So I'll be done with all my juicing before I turn 18. So what I'm saying is 4 or 5 cycles at a young age, followed by a long period of healthy living shouldn't do me too much harm. And as far as joint problems are concerned, I've played football 6 years, my joints are kinda fucked over already anyways, there's nothing much I can do about that. But I'm living with that now and it's still worth it, because I'll be able to say I did something I loved for 7 seasons. All great things come at a price, and I spent many hours thinking about all of this before I went through with it, it's worth it to me, and I think I'll probably fair ok anyways.Dale Mabry said:
The fact of the matter is once you get big, then drop down, you will wish you were back to the size you were. I held off on doing the juice til I was 27, but my buddy from high school has done them off and on since he was 19. He actually doesn't have any issues, his joints are fine, although his hair is non-existent. Every time I talk to him he has just finished his last cycle. He's been saying that for 2 years.
RC, you seem like a pretty smart guy for your age. Much more mature than many of your peers. It is admirable that you would come to a forum like this and try to obtain more info. I just know that living your life by planning on dying young ain't no way to live. I also think you are lying to yourself because you obviously care about your future, as you are going to college. If after you do all the research and still think it is worth it, that is your decision. Just try to pay attention to people with a little more experience when they offer advice. I don't think anyone wants to keep you from playing football or being a great football player. I think everyones concern is that one last year of HS football might not be worth the possible (far from certain) harm that you could do to yourself. Especially a kid as bright as you seem to be. Just think about what your true goals really are, and what are the best ways to get there. Live in the moment, but always plan for the future.
RCfootball87, please don't take offense to this: If your stats are correct and you can only bench 180 lbs at your age and size, you have a lot of natural growing to do without steroidal agents. At 15 years old, I weighed 130 at 5'8", had donuts, Dr. Pepper, and a cigarette for breakfast and was pushing 200 lbs. Never even heard of a pwo shake and creatine wasn't around in those days.
Whoa Nelly. toatally missed your stats. I read you have been lifting for two years so I thought you were at a plateau. Gotta agree with Pirate on the above. Your stats don't even list what you can squat. Sorry RC but you have a lot of room to grow naturally before you should consider even doing this. Supplements are almost a last resort for some of us older or really experienced lifters who have hit a plateau. At your age and size you should be squating at least 300lbs and benching at the 245 level. Post your workout up here and let the other members help you. It looks like you might need a good powerlifting routine. That will put size on you at your age better than any prohormone. I understand the desire to want an easy shortcut, but you have so much room to grow. Squats, deadlifts, powercleans, benchpress. Heavy all the time. You have so much untapped potential. Take advantage of your youth and naturally high Test levels before you start messing around with this. If we are wrong about your stats please correct us, and you have my apologies. Otherwise, take up powerlifting.
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Dinosaur.
RCfootball87 said:
I just added 50 LB's to my bench in one year naturally. You don't need roids to gain strength. You just need patience, consistency, and knowledge.
Anyways, how much you bench doesnt really mean much. It doesnt translate into strength on the football feild like a big squat would, or deadlift.
That was 1990, and I didn't know jack about proper diet and exercise. I knew that Donuts and Lucky Strikes weren't good for me, though.
snoops said:
well put. i'm 17 too and only have a couple years of consistent weight lifting under my belt and i can put up a lot more than that and i only weigh 170. i'm not trying to be an ass or anything, RC, but does anyone find it odd that he has run M1T and 1ad cycles, weighs 180 and puts up 185 on bench? sounds like u have diet or training issues.
If you guys are 17 you shouldn't be fucking with an anabolic steroid, which is what M1T is. Bro if you weigh 180 and are only benching 185, you either take PH/PS's and don't lift at all, only lift while on cycle with no PCT, or have been buying some bunk shit. Something up here. Maybe you need to get your diet and training in check first.
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IVe done more m1t then probably anywhere here. My opinion is even with an explosion of weight(even up to 15 lbs) your talking 5 to 7 lbs of muscle max and you will lose some of it after the cycle so 3 to 6 lbs is all you can expect from a 15 day cycle. Add brown piss which is a sign of liver and/or kidney stress the blood pressure increase etc and the massive shutdown I think High dosage m1t should be limited. 5mg is pretty safe I think but when you get to 15 or 20mg then you starting to stress the body.
I don't understand why people run M1T for two weeks. I can understand stopping if the sides are to great, but if not then run it for a month.
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ITs because we want to see fast gains before the shutdown. Im starting to get concerned about the super high dosages(20mg and above) and how the piss is always brown which is not good for kidneys and/or liver so for now on im always going to cut my dosae in half and opt for twice as lon instead of the super explosion cycles. HOnestly I liked the idea of 15 day cycles but ive decided that the shutdown would be basically the same and the side effects would be LESS if you just cut the dosage in half and do it twice as long. I think 10mg of m1t for 4 weeks would yield close to the same results as 20mg for 2 weeks. I don't know for sure but thats what im thinking.
I had to cut a cycle short once. I had SO MUCH drainage that it was backing up in my throat/stomache and making me feel fluish to the point I vomitted on two occassions.gococksDJS said:
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If you want to run M1T without the shutdown, you better only run it for 2 days. It shuts you down hard and fast, so by day 15 your balls have been in hibernation for a good 8-10 days. Two weeks at 20mg's would not yield the same results as four weeks at 10mg's. You probably won't even start seeing actual gains until around day 5-8, so that limits you to 6-9 days of reaping the benefits of it, rather than just feeling the pump like you do the first week, which most people think is actual gains.Souped_up said:
great gains along with severe lower back pains in the kidney regions whenever I sat down for more than 5 minutes. I only did one 2.5 week cycle and I gained 20lbs. I never did lose any of the gains at all once I stopped, so that was a plus. And the pains did go away after about 2 weeks of my PCT
RCfootball87 said:
I have had similar pains in my chest. My doctor told me that the pain is actually coming from the Lungs and not the heart itself.
I wonder if he's right. I get those pains every now and again.
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Can you even get M1T's anywhere anymore??
