m1t's and proper PCT

[hylandky]

also i usually drink like once a weekend...how bad is this stuff for ur liver?...permenent damage or what?

 

[FMJ]

also i usually drink like once a weekend...how bad is this stuff for ur liver?...permenent damage or what?

Drinking? Yes. Drinking is very bad for your liver. Especially Vodka and Tequila.
Better stick to the M1T.

 

[hylandky]

how bad are m1t's i mean....like permenant liftime damage?

 

[GearsMcGilf]

That stuff made anadrol seem like baby food. WTF can U get M1T these days?

 

[irontime]

Start out with 10mg a day. I read some whore stories about guys that did 20 a day. The literally had no use of their dick for almost a month after.
I only did the 10mg tab per day and got really good gains. And you're right with the two weeks on two weeks off. If you stick with the low dose you probably don't need to worry about the shut down after.

 

[irontime]

That stuff made anadrol seem like baby food. WTF can U get M1T these days?

Easily in Canada. It's under the counter at some places I know.

 

[hylandky]

but if i do 20mg a day i wont have to do them as long so thats why id rather do that, i have nolva for pct so now all im worried about is the toll on my liver, would very little drinking and m1t like completly destroy it?...anyone done m1t and got liver tested afterwards?

 

[player*]

how bad are m1t's i mean....like permenant liftime damage?

Out of all the stuff I've used, this is the only compound that I regret taking. I dont think I was ever the same after it as far as HPTA function goes, but just judging from libido and how I feel - it never got back to where it once was even after PCT and 3 years of abstinence.

The shutdown from this shit makes 19nors look like viagra.

There are better choices out there.

 

[irontime]

but if i do 20mg a day i wont have to do them as long so thats why id rather do that, i have nolva for pct so now all im worried about is the toll on my liver, would very little drinking and m1t like completly destroy it?...anyone done m1t and got liver tested afterwards?

What your saying is that you'd rather take a shotgun blast now then several pellet gun shots spread out.
You're still young, you don't need 20mg as 10 will give you great results, and you're just asking for trouble if you do take 20. It's a harsh compound, it can affect your liver, don't fuck around with it.

Just saying this as someone who has taken M1T's at 10mg and has gotten great gains with no effects from going off of it. It's your risk to take.

 

[irontime]

are you talking about the original (real) M1T?

if so hell yes you need nolva or clomid for PCT, that stuff shuts you down hard and fast!

2 weeks on and 2 weeks off? why would you do that? just run M1T for 4 weeks (at most IMO).

I have M1T's and the bottle says two weeks on and two weeks off. I'm guessing because it's apparently fairly hard on the liver.

 

[hylandky]

so 10mg a day will give good gains aswell?...like what kind of gains?

 

[irontime]

so 10mg a day will give good gains aswell?...like what kind of gains?

I gained 10 pounds the first week and everyone said my muscles were really popped out. Strength also went up. Start with 10, if you don't feel it's enough then go to 20, but at least try the lower dosage first.

 

[hylandky]

yeah ill try 10mg first then, but still wondering about the liver, anyone take m1t's before and get liver tested afterwards?

 

[seeker787]

40/40/20/20 for pct is usually what is done, do some research before taking something as harsh at m1t

 

[hylandky]

yeah i am doing alot, pct is for after your done everything right? like its not for your 2 weeks off or anything.

 

[Bigtuna]

aslo if i get nolvadex is clomid a must with that?... i live in canada i dont even know how to get somthing like that honestly

Canada is a haven for drugs of all sorts, ask around. I buy it from a cop that goes to my gym.

 

[bigpapabuff]

definitely get some liver support like UDCA

 

[hylandky]

what is the best thing to take for liver?

 

[hylandky]

what exacty is clomid and what does it do?

 

[Walnutz]

what is the best thing to take for liver?

Ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA)

You can get it at the cem store.

 

[Walnutz]

what exacty is clomid and what does it do?

A serm:

Clomiphene Citrate acts by inhibiting the action of estrogen on the gonadotrope cells in the anterior pituitary gland. Clomiphene binds the estrogen receptors in their bodies, thereby blocking the effects of estrogen, i.e. gynecomastia. It also restores the natural production of testosterone. Clomid is the anti-estrogen of choice for improving recovery of natural testosterone production and reducing risk of gynecomastia, employing aromatizable anabolic agents.

 

[irontime]

what is the best thing to take for liver?

Not sure what the best thing is, but Milk Thistle is apparently really good and it's very cheap. I just had to take a bit less than what the bottle suggested or it gives you the shits.

 

[hylandky]

A serm:

Clomiphene Citrate acts by inhibiting the action of estrogen on the gonadotrope cells in the anterior pituitary gland. Clomiphene binds the estrogen receptors in their bodies, thereby blocking the effects of estrogen, i.e. gynecomastia. It also restores the natural production of testosterone. Clomid is the anti-estrogen of choice for improving recovery of natural testosterone production and reducing risk of gynecomastia, employing aromatizable anabolic agents.

everything i have read and what people have told me nolvadex does that exact thing only its better.

 

[hylandky]

the nolva if for when your completly finished with the bottle right? 2 weeks on 1 weeks off 3 times and the the nolva? its not for like 2 weeks of m1t and then 2 weeks of nolva on your off weeks?

 

[razorhog]

Is liquidex the same as Arimidex in CEM?