Milk Meals!

[tannywild]

Well, I spent the weekend at my girlfriends house... Good times.

To get my protein, I drank milk. Lots of milk. And I mean LOTS!

5 gallons, in 3 days. I'm going to start lactating soon I bet! Is this sufficient to keep my protein levels high? There was no other way I could do it really, she hardly had any meat, I ate all the meat in the first day I was there!

So I bought milk... Gimme some input Because it might happen again!

 

[aggies1ut]

If you were able to go to the store and buy milk, why not just buy some canned tuna and eggs?

 

[Vieope]

Dry it out, the milk.

 

[tannywild]

Popping a can of tuna and making eggs would make for a very.. noisy, and smelly enviroment around the girlfriend..

If you know what I mean!

 

[Marky]

its should be "get my drift?"

 

[Platinum]

Milk should not be your choice of protein. As aggies1ut said, tuna or eggs: much better. First of all, milk provides you with casein protein, which has less calories and is slower digesting than whey. Secondly, lactose is present in the milk. For every litre that you drink, you're taking in about 50g of lactose. Not good. Lactose is one of the last carbs you want to take in.

In future, plan ahead, take a few cans of tuna and a couple of dozen eggs. If she hates the smell, buy chicken instead.

 

[tannywild]

It's not the smell of the eggs, or the tuna..

It's when I get them in my system...

Get my drift?

 

[tannywild]

but thank you for the ideas.. I guess she'll just have to live with it!

 

[Tough Old Man]

Good if bulking. Bad if cutting

 

[tannywild]

Good thing im bulking!

 

[Platinum]

Don't get me wrong, milk is a great, but ~2 gallons a day is a tad excessive.

Milk is great because it supplies a complete amino acid spectrum, plus it also contains calcium. Good to have at night, because of its low glycaemic index (skim has 30/100). Benefits are: slow and constant release of insulin throughout the night (the continual supply of insulin will ensure that the proteins are used in muscle tissue and not utilized for energy production.)

Keep drinking milk, tannywild, but make sure it's skimmed and try not to drink 2 gallons a day

 

[Platinum]

Milk is not bad if cutting IMO. Apart from providing casein protein, which has less calories than other types of protein, it also raises the level of calcitriol, which in turn increases metabolism.

 

[GFR]

Popping a can of tuna and making eggs would make for a very.. noisy, and smelly enviroment around the girlfriend..

If you know what I mean!

No I don't get what you mean

 

[TrojanMan60563]

When I was in the Navy I could hardly stomach most of the food....and half the time the food wasn't even good for you. So for 3 years I drank like 6 cups of milk per meal each day. I was in the best shape of my life at the time and could pack on muscle fairly easy all things considered. I think the milk binge at the GF's house is a good thing.

 

[aggies1ut]

Just bring a tub of protein powder next time.

 

[Du]

Milk doesnt only have casein...

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Milk is great because it supplies a complete amino acid spectrum, plus it also contains calcium.

Agreed. Milk is great.

Good to have at night, because of its low glycaemic index (skim has 30/100). Benefits are: slow and constant release of insulin throughout the night (the continual supply of insulin will ensure that the proteins are used in muscle tissue and not utilized for energy production.)

This - not really.

Yes, milk is fine at night, but not because of the reason you stated.

Although milk has a low glycaemic index, it has a high insulin index due to the combination of the amino acids (esp the BCAAs) and the carbohydrate - this means that you actually get a rather high insulin response...

And most people would argue that the last thing you want is a really high insulin level at night because it will blunt growth hormone levels - which will effect your recovery and evening anabolic potential.

Also - just having a 'supply of insulin' will not mean that the amino acids are only used for muscle tissue and not for energy production. Insulin will allow those tissues that have an insulin dependant uptake of glucose and animo acids to take up these things, but it will not exclude them from being taken up by other tissues (eg: liver, organs, fat) and it will also have no effect on what happens to those amino acids once in the cells.

I do think that milk is fine at night - it is a great source of calcium (important during the evening), a good source of amino acids, it has a good source of carbohydrate (which will help maintain liver glycogen and help trigger anabolism as well as decreasing the risk of catabolism in those dieting) and is a source of tryptophan (which helps you sleep). It also helps increase CCK (which also helps you sleep).

 

[Emma-Leigh]

First of all, milk provides you with casein protein, which has less calories and is slower digesting than whey.

Casein and whey = same amount of calories. Both are proteins which both have ~4 kCal per gram. Also - milk does have whey and small quantities of other proteins (eg: albumin) in it as well.

But casein is a GREAT protein! For example - it is highly anti-catabolic, which means it helps to prevent muscle loss in those that are dieting. It is also slower in its rate of digestion meaning it helps provide your body with a slow, constant source of amino acids...

Secondly, lactose is present in the milk.... For every litre that you drink, you're taking in about 50g of lactose. Not good. Lactose is one of the last carbs you want to take in.

Why is it one of the last carbs you want to take in?

If it is factored into your daily carbohydrate and calorie intake - and as long as you are not lactose intolerant - then there is nothing wrong with non-retardard amounts of it.

 

[XcelKrush]

If it is factored into your daily carbohydrate and calorie intake - and as long as you are not lactose intolerant - then there is nothing wrong with non-retardard amounts of it.

What would you consider to be too much? I regularly throw 8 oz of milk into many of my meals. Ive never really counted but I probably consume 4 glasses a day. Would this be too much? I know about the insulin response that comes with milk but I dont seem to notice it much. Ive always been "hyperglycemic," if there is such a thing since I can remember. If I eat a fair amount of sugar or white bread I become extremely tired.