More proof that Fox News is a government sponsored propaganda machine...

[Pepper]

Decker, the ones that aren't morally bankrupt get blistered by you and KBM for being religious zealots.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Oh, so there have to be convictions to really be a scandal. I guess he really didn't have sex with Monica since no one was convicted.

It depends on what your defintion of "is" is.

 

[Decker]

Why don't you come up with something original, rather than hiding behind your ambiguous language?

Yes, you are correct. You never literally said the word "unintelligent." Lets get beyond an elementary school thought process, and quite denying the blatantly obvious. 'Modern conservatism is repugnant to anyone who thinks' = 'conservatism is unintelligent'

Let's clear up ambiguity then.

Conservatives in the style of GWB (moderns) are hypocritical, unduly selfish, small-minded, bigoted, anti-science/intellectual, evil, exploitive, chumps who think the world begins and ends in their wallets.

 

[Decker]

Oh, so there have to be convictions to really be a scandal. I guess he really didn't have sex with Monica since no one was convicted.

Again, the whole thing was ridiculously overblown (no pun intended) but come on, Clinton was involved in one scandal after another. The one that didnt get the attention it deserved was the FBI files matter.

overblown....hahaha.

I'll take any filegate compared to the sins of the current administration.

 

[Decker]

Decker, the ones that aren't morally bankrupt get blistered by you and KBM for being religious zealots.

Not me. Although religion and morals are not two peas in a pod. I think there's much to be said about the golden rule and social contract.

Overblown....do you kiss your children w/ that mouth Mister? hahaha

 

[Pepper]

Christianity and morals SHOULD be two peas in a pod but as I have often said, there are probably more non-Christians in Church on Sunday than Christians.

 

[kbm8795]

Once you understand that, to him, everthing is a conspiracy, liberals can do no wrong, and needs to feel he's being persecuted, he's easier to get along with.

This statement, of course, is based on your renowned research skills and your thorough examination of issues on the topic of conspiracies, liberals, and the world's salvation before Reverend Moon, Dobson, Falwell, and Robertson's "conservative" agenda. Wingnuttery at its finest. Any diversion but the topic at hand.

I've read some of his writings on others sites (where he's not ranting) and I have to say, he's rather intelligent and has a decent friendly side. He just doesn't show that here.

Actually, you haven't read anything near what my writings are on other sites. . .and if you've seen some in print, you wouldn't have known they were mine. You were just seeking some angle to search for what you thought would be a weapon of mass destruction, which you, of course, quickly attempted to produce.

 

[kbm8795]

Christianity and morals SHOULD be two peas in a pod but as I have often said, there are probably more non-Christians in Church on Sunday than Christians.

Well they aren't. . .and that's because so many "christians" don't practice much in the way of morality. So many state constitutions wisely chose to SEPARATE the two terms.

 

[Decker]

You are right. Truly thoughtful people make blanket generalizations. Well, then let me partake:

Truly thoughtful people paint their opponents as "short-sighted," while they are clearly looking towards the future. Crazy 'short-sighted' things like punishing criminals don't bode well in the liberal party. Neither do crazy 'short-sighted' things like equality of opportunity rather than equality of results. No, we look to the future, and focus on banning inanimate objects, making blanket generalizations about entire races of people as a pretext for lowering academic standards and setting quotas. We look to the future, with our so-called 'progressive' tax schemes. Truly, focusing on the individual, deterring crime and rewarding success are very 'short-sighted.' We look towards the future, and say very intelligent things like "George Bush doesn't care about black people." We look towards the future, and have the hypocrisy to call conservatives "morally bankrupt," while simultaneously defending adulterous Slick Willy.

You're right. the progressivity of our tax code is being diminished. GWB doesn't care about anyone but his cronies and supporters--why else would we eliminate taxes on dividends and cut taxes during a time of "war". That's fairly obvious.

Let's see, an illicit blowjob v. murderous war crimes/criminal incompetence. Yeah, they are about the same in magnitude. My god Clinton's blown dick could have brought down our whole system of constitutional government.

Unlike illegal spying, torture, rendition, treasonous intelligence leaks, bypassing Congressional will, abusing signing statements for laws. That shit's small potatoes with an 'e'.

 

[kbm8795]

You are right. Truly thoughtful people make blanket generalizations. Well, then let me partake:

Truly thoughtful people paint their opponents as "short-sighted," while they are clearly looking towards the future. Crazy 'short-sighted' things like punishing criminals don't bode well in the liberal party.

I don't see our Republican Administration on trial. . .yet. Although Karl Rove is looking like he's pretty close to an indictment. And "conservatives" label anyone as "criminal" who happens to do, or think, or express, or imagine, a single thought or idea that is even remotely construed as critically outside the acceptable "conservative" viewpoint.

Neither do crazy 'short-sighted' things like equality of opportunity rather than equality of results.

I'll mention that to the gays in the military. . .oops...who only get an "opportunity" if they pretend to be straight.

No, we look to the future, and focus on banning inanimate objects, making blanket generalizations about entire races of people as a pretext for lowering academic standards and setting quotas. We look to the future, with our so-called 'progressive' tax schemes. Truly, focusing on the individual, deterring crime and rewarding success are very 'short-sighted.' We look towards the future, and say very intelligent things like "George Bush doesn't care about black people." We look towards the future, and have the hypocrisy to call conservatives "morally bankrupt," while simultaneously defending adulterous Slick Willy.

We look to the future with an increasingly pronounced budget deficit, the demonizing of fellow American citizens simply because some people "think they are icky" and the over-biblicalization of certain select religious verses that are only socially useful in codifying the persecution of others for their existence. Conservatives focus on the individual by saying anyone can do anything. . .and then issue a list of exceptions and pretend that the straight white male worked "harder" and that's why they, as a minority group, constitute over 80% of the positions in our government. . .not because they kinda stacked the laws - or the more subtle, cultural route to success - in making it much easier for themselves. Conservatives like to pretend that they care about the success of everyone - and then attempt to redefine "morality" to favor some characteristic about themselves which God intended to automatically place them with special favored status. . .which of course they don't have to earn.

 

[kbm8795]

Interesting. His first post here that I read was one stating how happy he was with US Troop deaths in Iraq. Ever since then, I have pretty view him as an unreasonable jerk.

I believe you may be bearing false witness if you are referring to me.

 

[Decker]

...Conservatives like to pretend that they care about the success of everyone - and then attempt to redefine "morality" to favor some characteristic about themselves which God intended to automatically place them with special favored status. . .which of course they don't have to earn.

That's interesting. I see a sort of pretension in the anti-abortionists. They love the unborn, all the unborn, but damn if that love doesn't dry up and shrivel on the vine as soon as the fetus exits the womb.

If one cannot express love for another at all stations of life then what we have here is a superficial kind of selfishness expressed by the anti-abortionist. Surprise surprise. It's easy to love something that's no hassle. As soon as we have the birth, the hassle begins and the love stops.

 

[clemson357]

You're right. the progressivity of our tax code is being diminished. GWB doesn't care about anyone but his cronies and supporters--why else would we eliminate taxes on dividends and cut taxes during a time of "war". That's fairly obvious.

Let's see, an illicit blowjob v. murderous war crimes/criminal incompetence. Yeah, they are about the same in magnitude. My god Clinton's blown dick could have brought down our whole system of constitutional government.

Unlike illegal spying, torture, rendition, treasonous intelligence leaks, bypassing Congressional will, abusing signing statements for laws. That shit's small potatoes with an 'e'.

Decker, I am truly disappointed. I never believed you were ultra-intellectual, but I thought you were at least above cliche rants that you find on the bumpers of soccer-mom minivans. No one compared a blow job to a war, except you. I merely pointed out the hypocrisy of you labeling conservative 'morally bankrupt.'

 

[Decker]

Decker, I am truly disappointed. I never believed you were ultra-intellectual, but I thought you were at least above cliche rants that you find on the bumpers of soccer-mom minivans. No one compared a blow job to a war, except you. I merely pointed out the hypocrisy of you labeling conservative 'morally bankrupt.'

Perhaps I should have distinguished between personal virtue and the morality of the commons. I merely point out the degrees of morality. I was not dismissing what Clinton did. In fact, as I stated before, he got caught and there should have been a vote on impeachment. The actual vote should have been 'no' but our politicians are fucked. So I do not see the moral selectivity that you see in what I said.

For what it's worth, I'm not above anything, least of all cliches. But the astute reader would have distinguished the irony implicit in my statements. They are true in scope and magnitude.

Have a great weekend guys. It's time to head home to drunken debauchery ....and lifting.

 

[BigDyl]

Thanks Decker, and KBM. I'll take it from here.

 

[kbm8795]

That's interesting. I see a sort of pretension in the anti-abortionists. They love the unborn, all the unborn, but damn if that love doesn't dry up and shrivel on the vine as soon as the fetus exits the womb.

I think it is even more interesting that they scream "murder" and then suddenly fall silent when they are asked what the punishment for this "murder" should be. . .or mention the man as an accomplice to murder, or. . .really make their heads explode if you ask if a miscarriage is involuntary manslaughter. . .

If one cannot express love for another at all stations of life then what we have here is a superficial kind of selfishness expressed by the anti-abortionist. Surprise surprise. It's easy to love something that's no hassle. As soon as we have the birth, the hassle begins and the love stops.

Exactly. . .just as it is always so much easier to blame others rather than look at ourselves.

 

[maniclion]

 

[lnvanry]

 

[GFR]

#9

 

[CowPimp]

Yeah, I hate Fox News. They like to call themselves "fair and balanced," when they are more biased than any other news organization that I've ever seen. Not to mention they like to spout Bullshit backed up by totally unreliable sources. Have you ever noticed how the reports often repeat the words, "Some say," or "People are saying," or something to that effect. You are a news organization. Stop presenting heresay as news and confirm it. Christ.

 

[DOMS]

Yeah, I hate Fox News. They like to call themselves "fair and balanced," when they are more biased than any other news organization that I've ever seen. Not to mention they like to spout Bullshit backed up by totally unreliable sources. Have you ever noticed how the reports often repeat the words, "Some say," or "People are saying," or something to that effect. You are a news organization. Stop presenting heresay as news and confirm it. Christ.

Ha! The Washington Post (a liberal rag) had a story during the last Elections whose source was "people on the Internet".

Yeah, sure, it's just the conservative media outlets...

 

[BigDyl]

Ha! The Washington Post (a liberal rag) had a story during the last Elections whose source was "people on the Internet".

Yeah, sure, it's just the conservative media outlets...

 

[kbm8795]

Ha! The Washington Post (a liberal rag) had a story during the last Elections whose source was "people on the Internet".

Yeah, sure, it's just the conservative media outlets...

Was that the only source in the article?

And wasn't the Washington Post the newspaper who hired a "conservative" rant blogger, only to find out he was a plagiarist? And I would certainly not call Fred Hiatt, who regularly pens editorials supporting this Administration, a "liberal."

How often does the Moonie-owned wingnut bible Washington Times, along with the Moonie-owned United Press International, run "liberal" positions?

 

[DOMS]

Was that the only source in the article?

Yes.

 

[kbm8795]

Then I'd like to see it.

 

[DOMS]

Then I'd like to see it.

I was mistaken. It wasn't the Washington Post, it was the New York Times.

Here you go. Note: you may need to click through an ad first (just click on the 'skip ad' link at the top right).

The second sentence into the article:

"According to rumors racing across the Internet this week, the rectangular bulge visible between Mr. Bush's shoulder blades was a radio receiver, getting answers from an offstage counselor into a hidden presidential earpiece."

 

[DOMS]

Now defend it with the mindlessness that you accuse everyone else of.

 

[GFR]

Intermission

 

[DOMS]

Intermission

Bless you my son.

Oh, and why are you still here?

 

[GFR]

Bless you my son.

Oh, and why are you still here?

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