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MR. DOMS I await thee to enlighten me on how ignorant I am on the black experience

You chose to include yourself with the negative element DOMS was bitching about, then you chose to be upset about being classified with them. DOMS never said all of them blacks over there. He was speaking specifically to the black criminal element with reference to UK's issues vs our issues when he used the pronoun "they". You included yourself in that group, although you seem to clearly not belong there, then got motivated to attack the pronoun usage that trapped you into that group. That is a racist reaction.

What you did there is the same as what is done by guys like Sharpton. When the black hooker falsely accused the lacrosse team of rape Sharpton was screaming about racism and the down troden black woman. Now that we all know she was lying he does nothing to redress that issue but instead goes head hunting another "racist" issue. No white person I know if has any respect for people like Sharpton because of his racist perspective. You are articulately and precisely conducting your self in the same manor.
 
BoneCrusher said:
You chose to include yourself with the negative element DOMS was bitching about, then you chose to be upset about being classified with them. DOMS never said all of them blacks over there. He was speaking specifically to the black criminal element with reference to UK's issues vs our issues when he used the pronoun "they". You included yourself in that group, although you seem to clearly not belong there, then got motivated to attack the pronoun usage that trapped you into that group. That is a racist reaction.

What you did there is the same as what is done by guys like Sharpton. When the black hooker falsely accused the lacrosse team of rape Sharpton was screaming about racism and the down troden black woman. Now that we all know she was lying he does nothing to redress that issue but instead goes head hunting another "racist" issue. No white person I know if has any respect for people like Sharpton because of his racist perspective. You are articulately and precisely conducting your self in the same manor.
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BoneCrushed x1000.
 
Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races.
The Merriam-Webster's Webster's Dictionary dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

Racist- This term is used by you so loosely. When did I say something racist? Besides the examples I gave to you which closely resembled Racism by definintion. Actually if you read his statement "They" he followed up generally speaking "blacks" in the UK. "Blacks" in the UK are more cultured or as far as culture. THEY in the context you are stating is indeed correct but he didn't write that way. Furthermore, comparing my debate to what Sharpton did with the Duke Lacrosse team is Apples and Oranges. This is why; I didn't scream Racism. I actually stated that It "Wreaked" of Racial Supremecy and Bigotry. I said that in so many words, "sounds like". Sharpton ACCUSED the DUKE of being Racist and not protecting rights of some hooker chick dancing for pennies. I didn't dig for an issue. The issue was what it was. MR. Doms had more than ample opportunity to disagree with me and make the point YOU are making this very moment. But he didn't. He arrogated to me that he "Can enlighten me" about the "affects of black culture" and black history (not quoating him here) as to be CERTAIN I am ignorant to the black culture. So, 1. My point was made. 2. MR DOMS had/has opportunity to explain what he meant(no he dosen't have too) 3. if you don't want to be misunderstood SAY what you mean.

Lesson here is, never know who is listening.

AGAIN I ASK ALL OF YOU. WHERE AM I BEING RACIST?
 
JACKED said:
Disagree where? With his statement? Yes I disagree with it? I don't have to agree with someone to be enlightened. To disagree with a truth would make me either a Fool or a person Hiding the truth himself. To enlighten me is to (my perception of enlightenment) inform me of some knowledge or gift I haven't known or had previously or prior to our meeting. You telling me that story... it dosen't say anything. Ummm, I would get my car kicked in East St. Louis if I drove up and the cops too. Pulling up to a street corner with young guys hanging out in a so called "known" crime area is not the wisest thing to do. Yes I know there are towns like the one you mentioned. Ok? So you are saying what?
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I suppose what I am saying is I have no problem with black people in general. I dislike some blacks just as I dislike some whites. But the funny thing is whenever a group of black people get together all of a sudden they think they are thug. I dont know why that is. Can you tell me? My buddy is the whitest black person ever, and he still acts gangsta whenever he gets around a group of black fellas.
 
Dude get over it, everybody knows DOM's is a racist and we have excepted him for it, just as we have excepted that P-funk is short and BigDyl is gay.....
 
JACKED said:
By the way Mr. Doms, I do know that Blacks played a role in slavery as well, Old News. It was often done by tribes at war with each other and they would sell there prisoners to slave ships. Please enlighten me. I am still waiting.
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I said that I'd start with something easy. I'm surprised that you know that. Not many blacks do.

Now, as for "they", blacks in America go out of their way to make it clear that they are different. Not only that, but they also happen to fall into a particular race, which also merits the use of "they."

JACKED said:
Next, MR DOMS; I bet you will say next that (spewing some percentage) that black crime and murders are from other blacks. Well, Duuuuuh, dosen't take a Rocket scientist to figure out that if you live in a predominantly black neighborhood you will be shot and killed by a black person. I seriously doubt MR DOMS you are in a position to enlighten me. You show me that you are just a typical person with his own beliefs and convinced that those beliefs are true. When indeed they are opinions based on uninformed Ideaology. "THEY" always say "my best friend is black" but in fact "they" don't always say that I've heard it from "some" white people. Fact is WHO CARES! The point I was making was not to generalize black people in a group as if we are a collective thought. "they" wanna be called African Americans. Well "I" don't! I have a different outlook. Its clear that you have (MR DOMS) much to learn about conversation with people. I am more than willing to have open dialog with anyone on here. I won't dialog with any of you who chooses to name call and act ignorant. Its very easy to be tough behind a computer screen. Also, I take none of this personal. This is hardly a place to validate my intelligence, strengths, weakness or dominance. **Somebody was whining about how many posts I have** my god why the hell does that matter?
Thank you all for your time. I await your intelligent responses.:thumb:
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And they tend to kill cops more often. But I guess that's because blacks live in black neighborhoods. :funny:
 
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JACKED said:
Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races.
The Merriam-Webster's Webster's Dictionary dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

Racist- This term is used by you so loosely. When did I say something racist? Besides the examples I gave to you which closely resembled Racism by definintion. Actually if you read his statement "They" he followed up generally speaking "blacks" in the UK. "Blacks" in the UK are more cultured or as far as culture. THEY in the context you are stating is indeed correct but he didn't write that way.
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Originally Posted by Mags
I thought blacks got screwed over for pretty much everything in your country compared to us white folks.

MR DOMS said:
They earn it. The blacks in the UK don't seem to be anything like blacks in the US (in terms of culture).
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They in this context (extrapolated from the previous posts) referred to black Americans in the criminal justice system who were awaiting their due. He then referred to blacks in the UK as blacks. You grouped them all together, then included your self in that group ... and launched. Now you try to deny that with the above Webster's dictionary links ... further coloring your darker issues of racism regardless of your denials.



Furthermore, comparing my debate to what Sharpton did with the Duke Lacrosse team is Apples and Oranges. This is why; I didn't scream Racism. I actually stated that It "Wreaked" of Racial Supremecy and Bigotry. I said that in so many words, "sounds like". Sharpton ACCUSED the DUKE of being Racist and not protecting rights of some hooker chick dancing for pennies. I didn't dig for an issue. The issue was what it was. MR. Doms had more than ample opportunity to disagree with me and make the point YOU are making this very moment. But he didn't. He arrogated to me that he "Can enlighten me" about the "affects of black culture" and black history (not quoating him here) as to be CERTAIN I am ignorant to the black culture. So, 1. My point was made. 2. MR DOMS had/has opportunity to explain what he meant(no he dosen't have too) 3. if you don't want to be misunderstood SAY what you mean.

Lesson here is, never know who is listening.

AGAIN I ASK ALL OF YOU. WHERE AM I BEING RACIST?
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Whitey, as a portion of an evolved society, is now in the position of dealing with reverse discrimination from black racists. It's not hard to see. Five black men in a room call each other nigger it's no big deal. I use the word nigger in that room in the same context then I have to fight. That's racism. This is an extreme example of the problem , while your situation is minor one ... but the underlying issues are the same issues that we as whites deal with on a daily basis.

You as a black American want me as a white American to be more sensitive to your issues. Brother I'm totally with you on this one ... I respect and support that concept. I want our grand children to be color blind. I do, however, expect you to act responsibly as well. I do expect you to recognize the difference between racism and conversation ... and act with the desire to see a socially responsive solution to racism instead of promoting a racially intrusive one.

When you push the black experience beyond that of a learning one into the realm of a demanding one ... demanding more than is morally and ethically appropriate that is... you become a racist whether you see it or not.
 
JACKED said:
And no, I wasn't saying Mr Doms was classifying Blacks in a Racist or Unfair manner.
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Take it up with Webster, dumb shit:

2 a : having dark skin, hair, and eyes : [SIZE=-1]SWARTHY[/SIZE] <the black Irish> b (1) often capitalized : of or relating to any of various population groups having dark pigmentation of the skin <black Americans> (2) : of or relating to the African-American people or their culture <black literature> <a black college> <black pride> <black studies> (3) : typical or representative of the most readily perceived characteristics of black culture <trying to sound black> <tried to play blacker jazz
 
Ok, one thing I need explained why are so many blacks shot by blacks again? You say it is because they live in black neighborhoods. You don't have whites living in white neighborhoods shooting eachother at the same rate as blacks in blacks. I dont get it.
 
BoneCrusher said:
They in this context (extrapolated from the previous posts) referred to black Americans in the criminal justice system who were awaiting their due. He then referred to blacks in the UK as blacks. You grouped them all together, then included your self in that group ... and launched. Now you try to deny that with the above Webster's dictionary links ... further coloring your darker issues of racism regardless of your denials.



Whitey, as a portion of an evolved society, is now in the position of dealing with reverse discrimination from black racists. It's not hard to see. Five black men in a room call each other nigger it's no big deal. I use the word nigger in that room in the same context then I have to fight. That's racism. This is an extreme example of the problem , while your situation is minor one ... but the underlying issues are the same issues that we as whites deal with on a daily basis.

You as a black American want me as a white American to be more sensitive to your issues. Brother I'm totally with you on this one ... I respect and support that concept. I want our grand children to be color blind. I do, however, expect you to act responsibly as well. I do expect you to recognize the difference between racism and conversation ... and act with the desire to see a socially responsive solution to racism instead of promoting a racially intrusive one.

When you push the black experience beyond that of a learning one into the realm of a demanding one ... demanding more than is morally and ethically appropriate that is... you become a racist whether you see it or not.
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BoneCrushed x 1000000.
 
Twigz said:
Ok, one thing I need explained why are so many blacks shot by blacks again? You say it is because they live in black neighborhoods. You don't have whites living in white neighborhoods shooting eachother at the same rate as blacks in blacks. I dont get it.
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The term your looking for is "per capita". It goes something like this: Blacks account for 12.3% of the population and are responsible for ~25% (over 2x per capita) of know burglaries.
 
DOMS said:
Take it up with Webster, dumb shit:

2 a : having dark skin, hair, and eyes : [SIZE=-1]SWARTHY[/SIZE] <the black Irish> b (1) often capitalized : of or relating to any of various population groups having dark pigmentation of the skin <black Americans> (2) : of or relating to the African-American people or their culture <black literature> <a black college> <black pride> <black studies> (3) : typical or representative of the most readily perceived characteristics of black culture <trying to sound black> <tried to play blacker jazz
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HUH?

What does that have to do with anything?

I think you've missed the point sir. Take what up with webster. You quoted me and then printed this. And called me dumbshit. LOL.


Ok, one thing I need explained why are so many blacks shot by blacks again? You say it is because they live in black neighborhoods. You don't have whites living in white neighborhoods shooting eachother at the same rate as blacks in blacks. I dont get it.

Listen to what you just said. "you don't have whites living in white neighborhoods shooting each other as the same rate blacks in blacks."
Who cares. I'm not making that an issue. Fact is, whites kill whites, Blacks kill blacks, Whites kill blacks, Blacks kill whites. What don't you get?

They in this context (extrapolated from the previous posts) referred to black Americans in the criminal justice system who were awaiting their due. He then referred to blacks in the UK as blacks. You grouped them all together, then included your self in that group ... and launched. Now you try to deny that with the above Webster's dictionary links ... further coloring your darker issues of racism regardless of your denials.

I've denied nothing. Maybe we're looking at it differently. By any account if the statement was changed to "whites" as in They or any race as in They the same position would stand. He grouped them all together. The converastion resembled sir:

Blacks get screwed in the courts.

Its about money not race in the courts.

They Earn it. Blacks in the uk are more cultured. (none of this is verbatum but we get the point)

Whitey, as a portion of an evolved society, is now in the position of dealing with reverse discrimination from black racists. It's not hard to see. Five black men in a room call each other nigger it's no big deal. I use the word nigger in that room in the same context then I have to fight. That's racism. This is an extreme example of the problem , while your situation is minor one ... but the underlying issues are the same issues that we as whites deal with on a daily basis.

Thats not racism my friend. Its a case of (and no I don't do it) I can hit my little brother all I want but I better not see you hit him. Also, who wants to be around people who act like that? White, black or otherwise. My situation is more than minor to say the least. I said nothing of imply blacks were better than whites. Blacks calling each other niggers and you can't call them that is not racist. Do you want to call a black person a nigger? If you don't then why should it matter that you cant call a black person a nigger? Listen to what your saying bro. You call that racist? How is that Reverse discrimmination? You should run the other direction if you here people disrespecting themselves like that. Not want to join in. Nor should you feel discriminated against for not being able to join in. I'm sure you are much smarter than that statement you made. No disrespect.



And they tend to kill cops more often. But I guess that's because blacks live in black neighborhoods.

And you are presenting this as a fact? If it was(im only guessing here) it would probably be that a high amount of black neighborhoods are impoverished and crime ridden. Cops patrol the streets. Its really simple.


I said that I'd start with something easy. I'm surprised that you know that. Not many blacks do.

Not many blacks that you know. LOL. You learn something like that in the 4th grade? How many blacks do you know? This is fun by the way.

I still haven't been shown WHERE I HAVE BEEN RACIST and WHERE I AM CALLING YOU RACIST.



 
DOMS QUOTED Farakhan. Why?
 
JACKED said:
HUH?

What does that have to do with anything?

I think you've missed the point sir. Take what up with webster. You quoted me and then printed this. And called me dumbshit. LOL.


Ok, one thing I need explained why are so many blacks shot by blacks again? You say it is because they live in black neighborhoods. You don't have whites living in white neighborhoods shooting eachother at the same rate as blacks in blacks. I dont get it.

Listen to what you just said. "you don't have whites living in white neighborhoods shooting each other as the same rate blacks in blacks."
Who cares. I'm not making that an issue. Fact is, whites kill whites, Blacks kill blacks, Whites kill blacks, Blacks kill whites. What don't you get?

They in this context (extrapolated from the previous posts) referred to black Americans in the criminal justice system who were awaiting their due. He then referred to blacks in the UK as blacks. You grouped them all together, then included your self in that group ... and launched. Now you try to deny that with the above Webster's dictionary links ... further coloring your darker issues of racism regardless of your denials.

I've denied nothing. Maybe we're looking at it differently. By any account if the statement was changed to "whites" as in They or any race as in They the same position would stand. He grouped them all together. The converastion resembled sir:

Blacks get screwed in the courts.

Its about money not race in the courts.

They Earn it. Blacks in the uk are more cultured. (none of this is verbatum but we get the point)

Whitey, as a portion of an evolved society, is now in the position of dealing with reverse discrimination from black racists. It's not hard to see. Five black men in a room call each other nigger it's no big deal. I use the word nigger in that room in the same context then I have to fight. That's racism. This is an extreme example of the problem , while your situation is minor one ... but the underlying issues are the same issues that we as whites deal with on a daily basis.

Thats not racism my friend. Its a case of (and no I don't do it) I can hit my little brother all I want but I better not see you hit him.
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exactly what I mean. You're a racist. You hold yourself to a different standard than me by the color of my skin. As long as you do that you are a racist.
Also, who wants to be around people who act like that? White, black or otherwise. My situation is more than minor to say the least. I said nothing of imply blacks were better than whites. Blacks calling each other niggers and you can't call them that is not racist.
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Bullshit ... it's totally racist. You are a racist if you think other wise
Do you want to call a black person a nigger? If you don't then why should it matter that you cant call a black person a nigger? Listen to what your saying bro. You call that racist? How is that Reverse discrimmination? You should run the other direction if you here people disrespecting themselves like that. Not want to join in. Nor should you feel discriminated against for not being able to join in. I'm sure you are much smarter than that statement you made. No disrespect.
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Now you're true color is coming out. Not only do you deny me the ability to use the same words you use by virtue of my skin color but you tell me I should run the other way when I hear the word nigger, instead of addressing the underlying problem that denies me the right to the same freedoms you use when speaking in any color of people.
And they tend to kill cops more often. But I guess that's because blacks live in black neighborhoods.

And you are presenting this as a fact? If it was(im only guessing here) it would probably be that a high amount of black neighborhoods are impoverished and crime ridden. Cops patrol the streets. Its really simple.
I said that I'd start with something easy. I'm surprised that you know that. Not many blacks do.

Not many blacks that you know. LOL. You learn something like that in the 4th grade? How many blacks do you know? This is fun by the way.

I still haven't been shown WHERE I HAVE BEEN RACIST and WHERE I AM CALLING YOU RACIST.
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Now you're pissing me off. Maybe you just want to remain a racist ... that's your call. I explained very completely but you act like you don't see it. You chose not too. W/E.

I'll leave you to DOMS' brand of debate ... you seem unable to cope with mine. Reality does suck when you choose to reshape it to fit your own needs then cry because it won't fit your life.







Thread whoring time


Where my SN came from ... ignore the video and just listen to the music. I cannot find the audio online anywhere else.
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maniclion said:
Dude get over it, everybody knows DOM's is a racist and we have excepted him for it, just as we have excepted that P-funk is short and BigDyl is gay.....
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Speaking of homos. Where has this fudgepacker been?
 
JACKED said:
And you are presenting this as a fact? If it was(im only guessing here) it would probably be that a high amount of black neighborhoods are impoverished and crime ridden. Cops patrol the streets. Its really simple.
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I almost missed this buried in the shit-pile that you call a post.

It's a fact. Just look up any recent year and you'll find that blacks kill the majority of all murdered officers.

And it's not by a little. Blacks do make up just over 12% of the population, but have killed over 50% of all murdered cops.

But that's okay since they're poor and live in black neighborhoods. :rolleyes:
 
BoneCrusher said:
I explained very completely but you act like you don't see it. You chose not too. W/E.

I'll leave you to DOMS' brand of debate ... you seem unable to cope with mine. Reality does suck when you choose to reshape it to fit your own needs then cry because it won't fit your life.
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Ive been noticing that throughout this whole debate. Its a constant circular argument with no point or even a path way to a point. I dont even understand what the fuck this kid wants to talk about.

And why do blacks always use the word "ignorant?" Whats wrong with stupid? Does using a slightly larger word help a person seem smarter (intelligent :nerd: )?
 
Thanks guys its been great. No I'm not running just have to get back to life. This was fun> I GUESS I'LL TAKE MY RACIST STUPID ASS ELSEWHERE. LOL.

BONECRUSHER.. Don't be pissed. You are only typing on a forum. I'm not pissed. I don't know you. Hope you really are not upset to that fact that you can't join in and call black people niggers. Have fun guys its been great.
 
JACKED said:
Thanks guys its been great. No I'm not running just have to get back to life. This was fun> I GUESS I'LL TAKE MY RACIST STUPID ASS ELSEWHERE. LOL.

BONECRUSHER.. Don't be pissed. You are only typing on a forum. I'm not pissed. I don't know you. Hope you really are not upset to that fact that you can't join in and call black people niggers. Have fun guys its been great.
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Noooo problem and no I'm okay now. Really, I have no issues with calling black people niggers when the need arises so that's just not a problem. I was only making a point that the niggers seem to object sometimes, even though they use the word them selves all the time. I see it like this ... any words you can use I can use. Right?

See ya around, enjoy life.
 
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