MSF's 2012 Summer Cut

[fireazm]

jesus
nice labs

and this was all AW ?

your total test is amazing

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Dont get confused, lol. BP posted my labs from my previous cycle last year. All that gear was GP.

I plan on getting mid cycle labs on this run sometime next week.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

High carb day, along with legs.

Leg Press

2 plates (each side) x 15
3 plates x 10
4 plates x 10
5 plates x 10
6 plates x 10
7 plates x 10

SLDL

135 x 12
155 x 10
225 x 10 (PR by 2 reps)
250 x 10 (new PR!) Wow moving 250 in sldls was fucking awesome.

Seated Leg Curls

105 x 15
120 x 15
150 x 15
165 x 12
180 x 10

Seated Hip Abductor

90 x 15
110 x 10
120 x 10
135 x 10

Donkey Calf Raises

150 x 20
180 x 20
220 x 15
250 x 12
280 x 10

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I got some bad news from my Dr today. I put in a request for labs today and she said my tests have been too close together. So I'm gonna have to go with labcorp for my mid cycle bloods. Sucks too, my blood work was the bread and butter of my log. I'll shoot for it at the beginning of the month sometime.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Another exciting day of food lol. No training today. Next Wednesday is day 1 of Var. Definitely looking forward to it.

 

[RockShawn]

What program is that for tracking food?

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

fitday.com

Bro that site rocks. Create a free account, customize all the foods you eat (or search for 'em) and add them to the list.

It does a lot more than just food too.

 

[RockShawn]

Awesome site. Thanks for sharing. Account set up and my foods are loaded.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Food today was pretty much the same as yesterday. Today just had a cup of pasta. I had to workout at the house today, due to part time work, but I got to use the dumbbells I made last week.

V bar grip Pullups

15
10
10
10
10

Bent Over BB Rows

135 x 12
155 x 10
225 x 10
225 x 10

Dumbbell Rows

60 x 12
80 x 10
100 x 10
120 x 10
140 x 6

 

[msumuscle]

So, you're only getting around 4 meals a day?

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Yeah just 4. I know everyones magic number is 6-7. But I can hit my macros in 4 meals. Plus its a little more convenient, quality of life is better.

I'm a big believer in whole foods too, I don't drink shakes. I think you should be able to easily hit your goal amount of protein/carbs in solid food.

 

[msumuscle]

For sure man, I really wish I could eat less meals for the convenience factor of it. I've tried dropping it down to just five meals but my body didn't seem to respond very well to it and even though I was taking in the same macros I was a lot hungrier than when I was eating 6-7.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

quick update on BP.

Yesterday I only did fasted walking, 45 mins. I still had heavy DOMS in my hamstrings, calves, upper and mid back. Today was an off day, still had perfect meals. Nothing you haven't already seen before lol.

I plan on doing step by step updates on a high carb day, meaning; Pictures of all my meals, the training for that day, time of day, etc, just to switch things up from the normal pie charts Ive been posting. Might be tomorrow or Wednesday.

 

[msumuscle]

Looking forward to the update, what does DOMS mean?

 

[Miss Springsteen]

Looking forward to the update, what does DOMS mean?

Delayed onset muscle soreness

Great job MSF! Really enjoying your journal so far!

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Delayed onset muscle soreness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just means how bad your muscles hurt after a really intense, heavy, isolation training day. Love it and hate it, lol.

^^^EDIT: Fast MissSpringsteen lol thanks.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Seated Military Press


135 x 5
155 x 5
225 x 2 (I wanted to try 225 just to see what it felt like, strength test)
185 x 8

Seated Dumbbell Flys

30 x 15
35 x 10
40 x 10
35 x 10
30 x 10

Hammer Strength Seated Military Press

45 (each side) x 15
70 x 12
80 x 9

30 mins stair climber.

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I start VAR tomorrow, so just for fun, I'll do a high carb day and track everything step by step so you can see everything.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Here's breakfast.

12 egg whites
1 egg yolk
2 cups whole wheat pasta

I got my blood drawn today to see where I'm at, so I'll post those up as soon as I get them.

Going to train chest today. I'll be doing it at the house, so I plan on hitting it hard so I can just do cardio this afternoon.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Meal #2

7oz Chicken Breast
1 cup Whole Wheat Pasta
1 13oz Sweet Potato

Flat Bench

95 x 15
135 x 12
185 x 10
225 x 10
250 x 7 (+3 forced reps, +1 negative rep) Help from my roommate
225 x 7 (+2 forced reps, +1 negative rep)
185 x 10 (+2 forced reps, +1 negative rep)
155 x 12 (+2 forced reps +1 negative rep)

BW Dips

15
15
15
14 (fail on 15)
13 (fail on 14)
13 (fail on 14)

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That bench session was nasty lol. I plan on walking later this afternoon. Also my first dose of Var, 50mg. I'll take the other 40mg with meal #3. Loving the high carb days lol. That sweet potato didn't stand a chance, skin and all.

 

[panteracfh]

This log is meticulous, honestly very impressive. I know you mentioned only having 4 meals and being a believer in whole foods but what is your PWO meal and are you counting that as one of the 4 meals on workout days?

Also since you are prone to cholesterol problems, I would suggest getting blood work done halfway through your var to check on that.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Meal #3

8oz Chicken Breast
10oz Sweet Potato
1 cup Broccoli

2nd dose of Var in. That puts me at day 1, of 90mg ED, for the next 6 weeks. Also, I know I said I wouldn't start Liv.52 till week 4, but I've actually been taking it since day 1 lol.

This log is meticulous, honestly very impressive. I know you mentioned only having 4 meals and being a believer in whole foods but what is your PWO meal and are you counting that as one of the 4 meals on workout days?

Also since you are prone to cholesterol problems, I would suggest getting blood work done halfway through your var to check on that.

Thanks bro. Yeah through lots of trail and error I found 4 meals is just about right. I like big meals, so eating 4 bigger ones, as opposed to 6 smaller ones just works for me. My PWO meal just depends on if I'm having a high or low carb day. Today, for instance, it was the picture of Meal #2. And Yes, I count all whole food meals as meals for the day. But on a low carb day, I'll just have chicken, broccoli, and maybe 2 servings of almonds. I've learned my energy level is just fine if my fat intake is spot on. (even on very low carb day)

I do plan on re checking my Cholesterol about half way through the Var. I had blood drawn today, and literally walked back out to my truck and took my Var dose, lolol. It worked out perfectly. I have to keep an eye on it, last time I took Var it wrecked my lipids.

1 more meal to go, and possible a LARD walk. (low activity rest day) lol my roommate always asks if I'm doing this today.

 

[panteracfh]

The picture I get in my head when I hear LARD walk is hilarious... Personally I don't substitute shakes for meals either but feel that whey+simple carbs post workout is superior to whole food and get those carbs in there even on a low carb day since that's the essential time for them. Anyway, you know your body better than anyone else so stick with what works. I'll definitely be following your progress, good luck!

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Meal #4

7oz Chicken Breast
2 cups Broccoli
1 cup Whole Wheat Pasta

I forgot to put the pasta on the plate, so I just picked it out of my container lol.

Right after I post this, I'm heading to the park for a 50 mins LARD walk.

So that was an average high carb day for me. I ended the day @ 2,447cals 33g fat, 250g carbs, 221g protein.

The picture I get in my head when I hear LARD walk is hilarious... Personally I don't substitute shakes for meals either but feel that whey+simple carbs post workout is superior to whole food and get those carbs in there even on a low carb day since that's the essential time for them. Anyway, you know your body better than anyone else so stick with what works. I'll definitely be following your progress, good luck!

I forgot to say, immediately after my workouts I do take a BCAA supplement (pill form) I don't count it as a meal though. I read somewhere bcaa's are faster acting than whey, who knows though, I'm sure you can find an article that says the opposite lol. That's why I keep my supplements to a minimum.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

4 weeks in BLOOD WORK results are in

First things first, I had to use a different lab than my original results due to my Dr not wanting to do my blood work too close together, which SUCKS I know, but at least I have something to work with.

Here are my thoughts, and I hope I can get as many people as possible to jump in and post their recommendations/opinions.

- My lipids are trashed, lol. AST, ALT, HDL, LDL, Cholesterol.. Even with a great diet, milk thistle, Liv.52, Fish Oils. My only guess is... the Tren. Good thing is its legit, but the harshness of Tren I will no longer underestimate.

- Prolactin. It was only .7 out of range, elevated. Not too bad, still elevated though. I will start .5mg caber 1x/week on Sunday. Why only 1x?? My last experience with this caber was only 1x a week, and it dropped it to 1.1 So Yes this tren did elevate my Prolactin, not as bad as I expected, but I will add in caber now.

- Estradiol. Just add me to the list of bunk AI owners, lol. The adex I was taking was GP, and at a dose of .5mg ED. Now I have been stocking up adex from multiple sources, so I will add in another adex tomorrow at a dose of 1mg ED. Hopefully, this source is legit. If not, I have 1 more source to try, lol.

- LH. I am taking 250iu's of HCG a week. But I'm not exactly sure if I'm supposed to be seeing results on blood work or not?? Does my LH being at 0.1 mean my HCG is bunk? or had it already cleared my system by the time of my blood draw. BTW blood draw was 48 hours after HCG inject. Not sure what Ill do about this, I suppose keep using since I've got it.

- Testosterone. I know there is no protocol for Prop, but I read it peaks 24hrs after inject, so thats what I did. This result (1343) was on 50mg ED. 350mg/week total. I'm not educated enough on this topic to know weather or not this is a good result. Its only 146 points above normal, so I'm assuming not??

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Overall, I'd say I'm not extremely happy with the results. Tren is definitely a harsh compound. It is my first run with it, I know now to never get carried away with it. The AI thing sucks but hey, The good thing is, I can make proper adjustments now, that will in turn help me out in future cycles.

 

[panteracfh]

If no one chimes in with an opinion on the prop testosterone results or the hcg question I'd recommend posting a thread in the Lab Testing section. Like you said there is no set protocol for prop but next time maybe just pin 150mg 24 hours pre blood work. It is only a bit over normal range but there's definitely prop in there so I would take it as good news, as opposed to bad, since there's nothing really to interpret about the level (unless someone with personal experience can contribute). I'm scared to see the cholesterol after a few weeks on 90mg var lol. Bad news on the AI. Maybe we should just be grabbing a bottle from 3 different chem companies, mixing them together and hope at least one is legit!

 

[RockShawn]

Tren is a killer on the system for sure. Up you fish oils to try and counteract it a little more. Should help with you LDL at least. I'm taking 10 triple strength GNC brand a day and LDL is tolerable but HDL is still whacked and I'm using Mast not Tren. I'm gonna PM you some AI info. I wouldn't think GP would be bunk too, but obviously it is. Almost makes me wonder if my US Pharma is any good. Get some Formeron by Black Lion Research if you can find it. there is a short supply right now.

I'm still shaky on the whole HCG thing myself. I think it can affect the estrodial reading, but not sure why or how. It's more of a gut feeling and broscience I guess. If your balls are staying out of atrophy, your hog is g2g.

LH and FH readings just indicate your shut down. They would read this with or without HCG.

Maybe bump up the milk thistle or look into some liver cure. Mine is the same way.

 

[RockShawn]

Clear some PM's so I can send you the info on Ai's

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

If no one chimes in with an opinion on the prop testosterone results or the hcg question I'd recommend posting a thread in the Lab Testing section. Like you said there is no set protocol for prop but next time maybe just pin 150mg 24 hours pre blood work. It is only a bit over normal range but there's definitely prop in there so I would take it as good news, as opposed to bad, since there's nothing really to interpret about the level (unless someone with personal experience can contribute). I'm scared to see the cholesterol after a few weeks on 90mg var lol. Bad news on the AI. Maybe we should just be grabbing a bottle from 3 different chem companies, mixing them together and hope at least one is legit!

Yeah these levels definitely make me nervous about the Var, lol. I'll retest again maybe 4 or 5 weeks into Var. And I'll take your advise on pinning 150mg pre blood work next go around. We'll see what that does.

Tren is a killer on the system for sure. Up you fish oils to try and counteract it a little more. Should help with you LDL at least. I'm taking 10 triple strength GNC brand a day and LDL is tolerable but HDL is still whacked and I'm using Mast not Tren. I'm gonna PM you some AI info. I wouldn't think GP would be bunk too, but obviously it is. Almost makes me wonder if my US Pharma is any good. Get some Formeron by Black Lion Research if you can find it. there is a short supply right now.

I'm still shaky on the whole HCG thing myself. I think it can affect the estrodial reading, but not sure why or how. It's more of a gut feeling and broscience I guess. If your balls are staying out of atrophy, your hog is g2g.

LH and FH readings just indicate your shut down. They would read this with or without HCG.

Maybe bump up the milk thistle or look into some liver cure. Mine is the same way.

Wow, thanks Shawn, your a stand up guy here on the boards. I've actually been forgetting to check for atrophy, lol thanks for the reminder, they dont look any smaller, so I'll keep the HCG on board. Also, I will take your advise and bump up my Liv.52, Milk Thistle, and Fish Oils, I just doubled everything. And about the adex, I tossed the rest of my GP, and will be using my other sources adex @ 2mg ED. I think in 4 or 5 weeks it should put a dent in my E2, if its legit. Blood work will confirm. Thanks again for your help bro.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Font Squats

Bar x 10
95 x 5
135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 7
185 x 10
155 x 10

Leg extensions

180 x 12
165 x 12
150 x 10
135 x 11
115 x 11
105 x 11

I had a pump in my quads like I've never had before. I remember a similar feeling when I tried Var for the first time years ago. Its only day 3, I hope this stuff is legit, but 225 for 7 on front squats is a record for me. I did some ab work at the house for around 30 mins.

 

[MrSaturatedFat]

Just a cardio day today. 45 mins on the stair master. I get side tracked from my goal because I'm getting stronger and the weights are moving. But I know I'm trying for fat loss.

So here was my view for today, quite appropriate I think, lol.

 

[RockShawn]

If your gym has one, you should try the StairMill. That sucker wears me out. 3 minutes in and I'm sweating like a beast. Been doing more of it lately when I don't have the energy to do HIIT.

Keep at it bro, you're doing great!!