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MSF's 2012 Summer Cut
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MrSaturatedFat
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Yeah I just started taking my aromasin today.
I'll do 25mg ED for a week, then cut it to 12.5 ED till the end of the cycle, then run the standard PCT dosages with it.
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Kinda bummed both adexs left my E2 in the 250's. I probably cant get much more defined or sharp with my estrogen this high. But I'll still keep my diet super clean and continue with the cardio. Maybe my aromasin is legit and my bloating will go down.
Anyway, I had the biggest urge to squat today. My gym is currently relocating so all is down at the house now.
Squats
135 x 10
185 x 10
225 x 5
275 x 5
315 x 10
SLDL with DB's
60's x 15
80's x 12
80's x 10
Glute Ham Raises
15
15
15
Honestly I just wanted to see if I could hit 315 x 10 again, lol. I thought it was a fluke the first time I did it cause I've never even been close to that much weight/volume.
I've got to work my part time tonight, so I'll be hitting the bag a little early today.
Ya know, I was thinking about my labs... They did not change much at all since I added Var. AST and ALT got better. Do you think thats a sign of bunk Var? or does eating clean with the right supps help offset the harshness of 17aa's??
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Since my last update, I had a great shoulder day, and a 2x cardio day.
So this update will be a little different, I'm gonna show you how to easily make some cheep, and very effective dumbbells for your home.
The dumbbells I made today could hold 80lb. So the first step is to get some pipe. Home depot has this for $10 after tax. I had the lady cut it into two, 12" pieces. You can buy then already 12", but it will have the threading on it so I don't like it.
Next thing ya do is swing over to Wal-Mart and pick up some bicycle grips. These ones cost me $8.
Next is take a razor blade and cut the ends off. If your bicycle grips don't have these grey end pieces, you can just cut a small section out of the grip. These are going to used as bumpers for the weights. Most people use pipe clamps, the ones you tighten with a screw, but I hate the shit outta those things
Evenly space them along the bar, you can set the grips exactly where you want them.
Take some athletic tape, and wrap the bar nice and tight
I've also have a 20" set.
Slap some pies on there and you're ready to go! Don't forget about the red clamps for the end. Get these a few aisles down while at Home Depot.
My local 'Play It Again Sports' had a sale on the pancake plates for $.50 a lb! So I picked up a shit ton so I would always have enough.
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Tomorrow is week 9. I actually got a hold of some Letro my good friend RockShawn had me pick up. So I started that at 2.5mg/mL ED, and also started Aromasin 25mg ED (for 1 week, then 12.5 ED after 1 week) I'll keep that protocol for 2 weeks and see if I can get this e2 down. 1 more week of Tren left
Which is ok with me, I'm ready to start sleeping again lol.
So this update will be a little different, I'm gonna show you how to easily make some cheep, and very effective dumbbells for your home.
The dumbbells I made today could hold 80lb. So the first step is to get some pipe. Home depot has this for $10 after tax. I had the lady cut it into two, 12" pieces. You can buy then already 12", but it will have the threading on it so I don't like it.
Next thing ya do is swing over to Wal-Mart and pick up some bicycle grips. These ones cost me $8.
Next is take a razor blade and cut the ends off. If your bicycle grips don't have these grey end pieces, you can just cut a small section out of the grip. These are going to used as bumpers for the weights. Most people use pipe clamps, the ones you tighten with a screw, but I hate the shit outta those things
Evenly space them along the bar, you can set the grips exactly where you want them.
Take some athletic tape, and wrap the bar nice and tight
I've also have a 20" set.
Slap some pies on there and you're ready to go! Don't forget about the red clamps for the end. Get these a few aisles down while at Home Depot.
My local 'Play It Again Sports' had a sale on the pancake plates for $.50 a lb! So I picked up a shit ton so I would always have enough.
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Tomorrow is week 9. I actually got a hold of some Letro my good friend RockShawn had me pick up. So I started that at 2.5mg/mL ED, and also started Aromasin 25mg ED (for 1 week, then 12.5 ED after 1 week) I'll keep that protocol for 2 weeks and see if I can get this e2 down. 1 more week of Tren left
Which is ok with me, I'm ready to start sleeping again lol.
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I set the date for my Bod Pod test for July 17th at 11:30am. I'm just gonna go the last 2 weeks of this cut straight cardio/diet. I haven't even weighed myself so I have no idea where I am. Hopefully my Letro and Aromasin are legit and take away some water weight. Cardio first thing tomorrow morning lol.
RockShawn
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Hope that letro and asin are treating you good bro. Can't wait to see the bod pod results.
MrSaturatedFat
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Well, Today was my last pin. I ended the anabolic part of this cut today.
I was thinking of extending it another 2 weeks of just test alone, but I can tell I need a break. I think my CNS is fried, and I've been pretty lethargic the past week. But hey, I feel very pleased with the results I've gotten so far. The BodPod test is still another 2 weeks away. That will be my ultimate end to the cut, and finally I can have some fucking pizza, lolol.
Just took this pic today and put it next to day 1. Absolutely the best I've ever looked. Its hard to tell, but I've got some visible veins in my right delt which I've never had before. Lots more on the top of my forearm, calf and quads, which I've also never had before. So its been a great journey watching myself change and get stronger. A lot was learned, and my next go around will be even better.
Anyway, here ya go.
I was thinking of extending it another 2 weeks of just test alone, but I can tell I need a break. I think my CNS is fried, and I've been pretty lethargic the past week. But hey, I feel very pleased with the results I've gotten so far. The BodPod test is still another 2 weeks away. That will be my ultimate end to the cut, and finally I can have some fucking pizza, lolol.
Just took this pic today and put it next to day 1. Absolutely the best I've ever looked. Its hard to tell, but I've got some visible veins in my right delt which I've never had before. Lots more on the top of my forearm, calf and quads, which I've also never had before. So its been a great journey watching myself change and get stronger. A lot was learned, and my next go around will be even better.
Anyway, here ya go.
Great job MSF, Incredible transformation!
RockShawn
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Awesome job MSF. You put a lot of work in and it shows brother. Very proud of ya!! Now show those abs at the pool!!
MrSaturatedFat
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MORE BLOOD WORK!
So I was a bit worried that my E2 had sky rocketed while on this cycle, even with Prop. So with the help of RockShawn, who I owe the world to now, My E2 has came down extremely dramatically in a very short 2 weeks on Letro/Aromasin.
And just to let ya know, the draw was 6 days after my last pin. Would E2 drop that much after only 6 days? Also, my AST ALT shot back up again, I'm guessing its from the ED dosing of Letro. Oh btw, the dosing for Letro was 2.5mg ED. I could tell something was happening though, I was getting noticeably more vascular in my arms and chest. Hell I saw a vein in my chest this morning that I'd never seen before lol. I'm just gonna chalk that up to my bloat going down.
Oh yah, the Testosterone result, lolol. Well it was 6 days after last pain, and only 2 days into PCT. So I pretty much expected it to be low. No big deal, its what happens. I'll recheck it again 4 weeks after completing PCT.
Anyway, yah this is good. I'm finally putting together how many body reacts to these compounds, and hopefully next cycle I can keep everything in check as much as I can.
Here it is:
So I was a bit worried that my E2 had sky rocketed while on this cycle, even with Prop. So with the help of RockShawn, who I owe the world to now, My E2 has came down extremely dramatically in a very short 2 weeks on Letro/Aromasin.
And just to let ya know, the draw was 6 days after my last pin. Would E2 drop that much after only 6 days? Also, my AST ALT shot back up again, I'm guessing its from the ED dosing of Letro. Oh btw, the dosing for Letro was 2.5mg ED. I could tell something was happening though, I was getting noticeably more vascular in my arms and chest. Hell I saw a vein in my chest this morning that I'd never seen before lol. I'm just gonna chalk that up to my bloat going down.
Oh yah, the Testosterone result, lolol. Well it was 6 days after last pain, and only 2 days into PCT. So I pretty much expected it to be low. No big deal, its what happens. I'll recheck it again 4 weeks after completing PCT.
Anyway, yah this is good. I'm finally putting together how many body reacts to these compounds, and hopefully next cycle I can keep everything in check as much as I can.
Here it is:
RockShawn
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Dang that test is low. You feeling ok? The trick now is to prevent estrogen rebound. Back of the AI but watch how you react through pct. e2 will need to come up a bit to help test levels come back up. What are you doing for PCT?
Ps I love when I'm veiny. It rocks.
Ps I love when I'm veiny. It rocks.
MrSaturatedFat
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Yeah the T levels sucks. I can tell a noticeable change in libido. Im still having sex 2-4 times a week, I just don't have that feeling of wanting it ALL the time ya know. What should I be expecting? I read that ya just feel like shit through PCT and weeks afterwards as well. I definitely don't, and have never felt like shit during this cycle so I hope I keep that up.
So let me ask ya, I'm still on 12.5 asin ED now for PCT, should I stop the Letro completely? Or just do 1.25mg EOD, or E3D? and slowly slowly taper the dose to nothing once PCT finishes?
PCT as of now is Clomid, Asin
100/100/50/50
12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5
I know asin is usually 25/25 for the first 2 weeks, but I was doing that during the Letro cycle, so I went with 12.5.
So let me ask ya, I'm still on 12.5 asin ED now for PCT, should I stop the Letro completely? Or just do 1.25mg EOD, or E3D? and slowly slowly taper the dose to nothing once PCT finishes?
PCT as of now is Clomid, Asin
100/100/50/50
12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5
I know asin is usually 25/25 for the first 2 weeks, but I was doing that during the Letro cycle, so I went with 12.5.
RockShawn
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I'm not an expert on PCT, but I'm pretty sure you cut the letro. I've always heard nolvadex and clomid for PCT but I think more people have been using aromasin too.
Might see if exphys will help a little bit. I'll pm him and send him the link to your journal.
Might see if exphys will help a little bit. I'll pm him and send him the link to your journal.
MrSaturatedFat
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FINAL RESULTS!
Well I barely made it 12 weeks, but here it is; The final Bod Pod results.
I was telling myself I was happy regardless of the Pod results, lol. Which I was, but when I came back at 11.1 I was shocked lol. Never in my life have I been even close to 11. I know people walk around at this, but for me, it's amazing. I am very happy to say that this has been my most successful cut yet.
I lost a total of 18.39lb of fat, which ended up being 1.5lb of fat a week, which is perfect lol. I also gained 7.71lb of muscle. So to be 197.9lbs @ 11.1%, I am extremely satisfied. And would ya look at that shit... 0.1 away from being "Ultra Lean" Fuuuucucckkkk! hahaha.
So I decided to celebrate. Me and the girl went to IHOP and this is what came to the table :]
Build Your Own French Toast w/ 2 eggs, 2 bacon, 2 sausage, and hashbrowns.
2 Breakfast Samplers w/ 2 pancakes
Strawberry Cheesecake thing for dessert. Also picked away at my girls Stuffed French Toast lol.
Did not regret a thing (like I usually do) This was well earned. Time to start and figure out what I'm going to do next.
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I'd like to write a letter to myself. Something to look back to when I decide to cut again, while its still fresh in my mind;
- Do NOT say you will do "10 or 12 weeks" set the entire time frame from day 1. Things started to get shitty around week 9, and you decided to push it to 12 weeks, and you were miserable. Set it in stone next time.
- Give yourself more cheat days! you would go 3 or 4 weeks sometimes, and it would spill over into 2 days of 1 or 2 bad meals, or excessive snacking. Allow yourself to be more at ease mentally.
- You gained 7lbs of muscle, lol. Your always scared to death that if your not lifting weights, your loosing muscle. Its ok, do more cardio. Loose more fat, and gain less muscle next time.
- You actually had your ALT and AST in normal range during the cycle, great job. You took 3-4 Milk Thistles/Fish Oils, 2-3 Liv.52s 4x a day. You also ate chicken and broccoli 3x a day lol so who knows. It's also OK to toss in some red meat for 1 or 2 meals a week to keep you sain.
- Estrogen. As soon as you got it down into normal range, your vascularity went fucking nuts. Keep that E2 in check, and look and stay leaner during cycle, not at the very end lol.
- The cheat meals you did take. Hey they weren't bad, most had tons of meat involved. You just love ordering 2 or 3 entrees when you go out. Try and just order 1 for the first 3 meals, then go crazy on your 4th lol. Something to this extent. It'll save you some money too.
- You ate 4 meals for about 98% of the entire cut. And still did great. I dont think adding 2 more meals and eating less per meal will benefit you. You found what works for YOU and cutting you did fine w/ 4 meals a day, no shakes.
- You decided that your chest was your weakest body part. Focus on that, it needs to catch up to your shoulders big time. Concentrate on building that chest.
- Don't skip the small body parts. You barley did any calve and ab work. Pick a day, and just do it. BODYbuilder.
Well I barely made it 12 weeks, but here it is; The final Bod Pod results.
I was telling myself I was happy regardless of the Pod results, lol. Which I was, but when I came back at 11.1 I was shocked lol. Never in my life have I been even close to 11. I know people walk around at this, but for me, it's amazing. I am very happy to say that this has been my most successful cut yet.
I lost a total of 18.39lb of fat, which ended up being 1.5lb of fat a week, which is perfect lol. I also gained 7.71lb of muscle. So to be 197.9lbs @ 11.1%, I am extremely satisfied. And would ya look at that shit... 0.1 away from being "Ultra Lean" Fuuuucucckkkk! hahaha.
So I decided to celebrate. Me and the girl went to IHOP and this is what came to the table :]
Build Your Own French Toast w/ 2 eggs, 2 bacon, 2 sausage, and hashbrowns.
2 Breakfast Samplers w/ 2 pancakes
Strawberry Cheesecake thing for dessert. Also picked away at my girls Stuffed French Toast lol.
Did not regret a thing (like I usually do) This was well earned. Time to start and figure out what I'm going to do next.
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I'd like to write a letter to myself. Something to look back to when I decide to cut again, while its still fresh in my mind;
- Do NOT say you will do "10 or 12 weeks" set the entire time frame from day 1. Things started to get shitty around week 9, and you decided to push it to 12 weeks, and you were miserable. Set it in stone next time.
- Give yourself more cheat days! you would go 3 or 4 weeks sometimes, and it would spill over into 2 days of 1 or 2 bad meals, or excessive snacking. Allow yourself to be more at ease mentally.
- You gained 7lbs of muscle, lol. Your always scared to death that if your not lifting weights, your loosing muscle. Its ok, do more cardio. Loose more fat, and gain less muscle next time.
- You actually had your ALT and AST in normal range during the cycle, great job. You took 3-4 Milk Thistles/Fish Oils, 2-3 Liv.52s 4x a day. You also ate chicken and broccoli 3x a day lol so who knows. It's also OK to toss in some red meat for 1 or 2 meals a week to keep you sain.
- Estrogen. As soon as you got it down into normal range, your vascularity went fucking nuts. Keep that E2 in check, and look and stay leaner during cycle, not at the very end lol.
- The cheat meals you did take. Hey they weren't bad, most had tons of meat involved. You just love ordering 2 or 3 entrees when you go out. Try and just order 1 for the first 3 meals, then go crazy on your 4th lol. Something to this extent. It'll save you some money too.
- You ate 4 meals for about 98% of the entire cut. And still did great. I dont think adding 2 more meals and eating less per meal will benefit you. You found what works for YOU and cutting you did fine w/ 4 meals a day, no shakes.
- You decided that your chest was your weakest body part. Focus on that, it needs to catch up to your shoulders big time. Concentrate on building that chest.
- Don't skip the small body parts. You barley did any calve and ab work. Pick a day, and just do it. BODYbuilder.
RockShawn
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You're an elite athlete in my book. You did awesome. Very proud of you and what you learned will be a great asset for the next phase.
