I haven't been able to keep track of my BF% so well, but I'm assuming 161-162 before cutting water is where I'll need to be. Two weeks and 6-7 pounds... isn't looking good.
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MusclePump: Drinking from the Cup
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musclepump said:
all that cardio and that many calories don't help. you are possibly burning up a bunch of muscle. Have you done any sort of re-feed to get your metabolsim back to some sort of set point again? It is probably to late for that now.
My week in Indiana was like a refeed. Which is why I was behind. Now I'm trying to get back into it. Am I doing too much cardio? Not eating enough? I know it's bass ackwards sometimes, that you have to eat more to burn more fat, though I don't know if I'm at that point?
musclepump said:
I mean, the hardest thing is for me to give ouy advice at this point becuase you didn't know your caloric or macronutrient intake from before. You were jsut kind of rolling with it and carb cycling. I would say you could have ate a lot more and got away with a lot less cardio if you planed the diet better. But this is the first show, live and learn. It is an experience and next year you will have a better idea of you you need to do.
Yeah, I just kind of dove in head first. 12 months ago I was a 150-pound swimmer with no muscle, no fat, but a lightbulb in the head that suddenly said, "Do this show next year." In that time I added a little size, bulked to 202, and started cutting 16 weeks out like I've read to do. The rest is a rollar coaster 
167 this AM
I'm not sure I'm going to do any bed tanning. I've talked to a lot of guys who said it's worthless and suggested just doing protan. Is there a need to bed tan first? And even so, will a week make any difference?
167 still this AM.
I don't think I'd even get a base if I started now. It takes me forever to get the slighest tan whatsoever. It sucks
I don't think I'd even get a base if I started now. It takes me forever to get the slighest tan whatsoever. It sucks
Picked up some goodies from the store for competition time. Baby oil (don't know if I'll use it), rice cakes, jam, graham crackers.
A solid 167 this morning. I don't think I can get any lighter! 
And yet, I still have this tiny little pouch at the lower portion of my stomach. Strange.
I may try dropping off a few more calories.
And yet, I still have this tiny little pouch at the lower portion of my stomach. Strange.I may try dropping off a few more calories.
Did an essentially no carb day today, going to alter between high/no through next wednesday when I start the depleting/repleting for the show.
167.5 this morning?! Ha! HAHAHHA!!
I can only laugh, because I've tried everything else, and nothing works. So it's all I have left to do.
I can only laugh, because I've tried everything else, and nothing works. So it's all I have left to do.
Obviously none. But why do I have this little pouch on my lower abs? My training partner is flat, so are a couple other guys I know getting ready for this. I've got it, so that means I have more to lose, doesn't it?
musclepump said:
How many times did I tell you? I have the same thing until I drop water!! Also, you may not have enough muscle to support the level of BF you are trying to achieve which is making you hold a bit of fat and doing all that cardio is not helping you out at all. You are just if anything making it worse. Also, that pouch could be there from poor diet/training planning in the pre-contest phase. You were unsure about your caloric/macronutrient intake from the start. You just simplied lowered calories (with out reason so it seems). You carb cycled and your hi carb days where less than adequate when it comes to the type of carbs (as I read sometimes you would be eating cookies and such) given that you are pre-contest. there are a lot of things to factor in.
Ha... I love you, man.
I understand with your saying. My pre-contest diet was made up with whatever I came up with--my entire year of training, 16 weeks of diet, all my own creation. I've learned a lot as I've gone.
So, questions for you P-
Do I keep doing two sessions of cardio a day? If so, how long?
Is 2,000 calories a day still good?
And if it was a result of crappy diet, how much of my lower abs will vanish when I drop water? Will it all go away or am I just going to put up with some?
I understand with your saying. My pre-contest diet was made up with whatever I came up with--my entire year of training, 16 weeks of diet, all my own creation. I've learned a lot as I've gone.
So, questions for you P-
Do I keep doing two sessions of cardio a day? If so, how long?
Is 2,000 calories a day still good?
And if it was a result of crappy diet, how much of my lower abs will vanish when I drop water? Will it all go away or am I just going to put up with some?
musclepump said:
1) the whole point is to learn as much as possible. the first time i ever dieted down i fucked up big time. was really skinny, lots a bunch of muscle. you live and you learn.
2) I am not sure about the cals since i don't know where you are coming from. I can tell you this, the last week starting this sunday you shouldn't be eating carbs until friday. so your cals will be really low!! chicken and lettuce..fucking rabbit food.
3) cardio- do what you will. I never did 2 a days of cardio but I would say that you are coming to the end and you shouldn't be doing cardio after next tues. anyway to keep your legs from looking flat.
4) When I drop water that little bottom pinch goes away totaly (only to return once I start eating again.
). it is just like a genetic fat deposit. Some BB'ers get it removed (lipo). They all have their trouble spots. Look at Lee Priest and his glutes. he has said that he has genetically fatter glutes and he is not going to catabolize all his muscle to get down to striated glutes (he would look flat all over then!!). So, it is something you deal with....how?? Learn to pose around it. Learn to pull a vaccum well and that will keep it tight, also, in your posing routine stay away from things that display it totally...A lot of back poses, side poses, from the front most muscular so you are bent over (hiding it) and, if the upper portion of your rectus is showing nicely and shredded you can get away with abs shots as it will take away from the lower part that is lagging. Be a confident poser and learn to hide your weaknesses5) if you do contest week spot on and drop water and all that shit solidly you will wake up sat. morning to find it not there!
*smooch*
Wait... that's not manly...
*Slap on the ass*
Wait... that's not manly...
*Slap on the ass*
Just ate what I think is my 50th chicken breast, dressed in Chipotle Salsa, within the last two weeks.
mmm almonds...
Finished up my last meal with another chicken breast with chipotle salsa
You'd never guess, but 167 this morning. Wow, what a shock.
Probably around 3,000mg. On Monday I'll start dropping the carbs, probably 125g that day, 100g on Tuesday, 50g on wednesday, close to none on thurs/fri and then i'll eat whatever I need on Saturday to replenish.
Monday I'll drop to around 2,000mg. Then Thursday to 1,000.
