My 1-test/4ad/cycle results

[ZECH]

Been almost three months since I went off my last cycle right before Christmas. I have ordered some 1-test and 4-ad powder from 1fast and I have some gel I ordered from BDC w/dmso. I also have two bottles of San T-100 to try. Not sure how I am going to do this yet. When my powder gets here next week, I am going to mix it up and get ready. Time to try to gain some more size for summer. I'm curious as to how the BDC gel w/DMSO will work compared to Avant. I'll keep ya updated.

 

[Arnold]

cool, I have 4 bottles of One+ and 4 bottles of Super One+ but I have not started them yet!

 

[Wolfpack22]

Will prohormones cause any permanent damage to your natural ability to build muscle?

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by Prince
cool, I have 4 bottles of One+ and 4 bottles of Super One+ but I have not started them yet!

What are waiting on?????????

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by Wolfpack22
Will prohormones cause any permanent damage to your natural ability to build muscle?

No....................you just need to have time off after or between cycles to let your natural test levels return to normal. That is why I am taking 12 weeks off after my last cycle before starting the next.

 

[ZECH]

Just to bring up for new people..............
An example of suggested cycles per year.......
4 on 4 off
4 on 6 off
4 on 8 off
4 on 12 off.................that is a whole year for ya!

 

[ZECH]

I mixed my powders in my gel last night. It took a few minutes to get it mixed but went rather well. There is no smell of DMSO in the gel due to the citrus smell from the D-Limonene. I think I am actually going to order some supplies today to make my own gel.....this should be fun!! Anyway, I'm not sure when I will start a new cycle yet. Might be a couple more weeks. I think I am going to stock up on a few things first. This PH bill looming is not looking good.

 

[Twin Peak]

Yeah, recent news has not been particularly good.

 

[ZECH]

I coudn't wait any longer. After 14 weeks off I started a new cycle on 4-03-03. It has been almost 2 weeks. I am doing 1-test/4ad with DMSO. I can really feel this stuff working. I just squeaked up 315 Monday on bench....so my strength is not quite up yet. I hope to add 20 lbs to this before I'm done(335). Hey I can dream can't I?? I didn't loose a whole lot of strength off cycle except I did learn some things. I tried something new. I wanted to know how much a difference 6- oxo and/or fuzu made post cycle. Well it did take a long time to recover without it. So I don't think I will ever go without something again. IT DOES HELP! My weight right now is 194/195. Hopefully I may add a few more. I can actually tell I have "swelled" up a little already. I think I can say the DMSO has helped get the PH in quicker than before. It usually took 3 to 4 weeks for me to notice much. I have some 4/ad left over from a previous cycle that I have been using during the day on my arms. I put on 1-test/4ad first thing in the morning(6am) and again about 10pm. I use the 4ad at noon at lunch when I work out. So I'm getting a heavy dose on the 4ad. I feel better right now(joints and pain) than I have in a while. I have some T-100 I want to try to see how the oral 1-test works. Even though it is an ester, I will take it with flax oil. I will probably give myself several weeks though before starting to see the true benefits of it. My back is still bugging me from hurting it late last fall squatting. I have found a good doctor that lifts that I'm going to make an appointment with to check it out. I miss my heavy squats!! I will probably take some measurements in a week or two.

 

[Gettin'old]

What a kick-ass hilarious thread. DG, you should be a test pilot, heh, heh. Is there anything you haven't tried.

DG's motto: If it's a PH, slap it on there!

BTW, nice freakin' gains!

 

[Arnold]

he's a nut!

 

[ZECH]

GO, yes I have made myself a guniea pig on purpose! When I joined this board I wanted to learn as much as possible. I also wanted to give real feedback on products and not hear say! I think that is much more valauble. I really don't think i Have went overboard though. I allow myself enough time between cycles. Now I know guys that stay on for months. One guy has been on since January and has no plan to go off before late summer. I also learn from him!!(BTW he competes and is very big @ 45 yrs old) I have made some good gains, but I have busted my ass the last two years in the gym and with my diet! I still have a long way to go!!!!!

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by Prince
he's a nut!

You're jealous!!!!!!!!! J/K

 

[ZECH]

Just a quick update..........stepped on the scales this morning and weighed 196. Close to my goal of 200. I actually looked a little leaner last night than I have looked lately. I started taking san t-100 and a-100 last week. I measured my arms last week and they were 16 3/4". I want to get 17". I may go for my personal record on bench today.....depends on how I'm feeling?? Getting past 315 is a big mental thing to me. And I am so fucking tired of chicken right now!!

 

[Twin Peak]

We share the same goal. To get to 200.

 

[ZECH]

LMAO!! Wanna Race!

 

[Twin Peak]

No, you are a lot closer than I.

 

[ZECH]

But those last four pounds will be tough!! Then when I cut, I will be looking to do it all again!!!! Hopefully I will be closer though next time!!

 

[Twin Peak]

Tis easy. Just eat more.

I can gain 4 pounds in a day.

 

[ZECH]

Yeah..................I want to stay as close to quality muscle gains as I can. Fat at 39 is not as easy to lose as it was at 29.

 

[Robboe]

Well here's a new goal for you - get younger.

 

[ZECH]

I'll get younger if you get as big as me!!

 

[Robboe]

Ooooooooooooooooooooooo...


That there is fightin' talk.

 

[ZECH]

Bring it ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Twin Peak]

I have the best both worlds.

 

[bludevil]

I've got a question.

Im thinking of taking Super one + for four weeks then 6oxo. Do I still need to take a supp like Tribex 500 to help boost natural T levels or will the 6oxo be enough. By the way, 1st cycle of PH so I'm excited.

 

[ZECH]

At only four weeks it should be enough! 6-oxo will boost the t-levels and trib is mostly for libido! So if your libido is low, get some Trib(I reccomend Fuzu)

 

[racoon02]

Can you buy 1-test over the counter? I went to nutrition depo and all I saw was 1-AD. I also prefer oral, because im a big wuss and am scared of needles!

 

[Tkarrde]

1-AD is direct precursor to 1-test (converts upon ingestion); many actually prefer 1AD over other oral 1-test alternatives, though Molecular Nutrition's 1-T ethergels have also received high marks.

Yes, 1-test can absolutely be purchased OTC.

 

[ZECH]

Well so far the San T-100 and A-100 has not impressed me. I know this will dissapoint GP!! I am still around 194/195 in weight. No increases in strength or weight since taking the orals. One thing I did notice was the larthargy. I started taking 600mg T-100 and 600mg A-100, along with some 4/aderm morning and night every day! I got so tired feeling, I couldn't get my ass out of bed in the morning. Several mornings I went in to work several hours late just to get more sleep. Once I get up I'm fine. So from the larthargy I know something is happening, but I can't figure why there was no strength increase. Kevin(http://www.pkresearch.biz/) told me yesterday that I look bigger than I have yet. So maybe the size thing is working. Which ain't too bad!! So, it's hard for me to really get an idea on how the SAN worked?? IMO, (sorry GP), I don't think it worked any better than 1ad, but I think they are equal. Me and Kevin talked about that and it still doesn't make sense to me how that is. Looks like to me with the conversion of 1/ad, you would loose some(obvious), and maybe you do, but I also think you loose some of the oral 1-test through the liver. From what I have told so far is that the transdermals and orals(1-ad, SAN, and Molecular) are very close in terms of results. I would pick the transdermals for one reason. Every time I start on orals, my nuts shrink within a week. With transdermals, even after 4-6 weeks, this does not happen. Doesn't seem to me the transdermals are as hard on MY body as the orals are. I would love to do a blood panel at different times to check the difference.