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It's not the water it's all the damned Canadian whisky 
That and the cold....must make you all irritable
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I Know I can be a little edgy with that combo yes
whisky....anytime.....cold, forget it! 
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LOL, I am of the same sentiment...getting a little sick of it to tell ya the truth
man, it got down to 11c here last night and I was cold 
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wow thats gotta be ruff kuso........pffffftttttt thats what the hottest day of the year was for me lol
I hottest day here sucked too.....I think it was just over 40c with about 1000% humidity!
It does get to minus here in Dec, Jan, Feb though, and I HATE it!
It does get to minus here in Dec, Jan, Feb though, and I HATE it!
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minus what?? our lowest point is usually in January when we hit minus 40 for a few weeks 
I live at the bottom of the mountains so minus 8 or 9 is usually max....I think the worst around here has been -15...thats night time of course....it was painful too! lol
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LOL Ill send ya a genuine Canadian Parka....and a proper tooque!! -15 is still short weather for me buddy
-15 in shorts I think I`d have three adams apples
LOL....dunno.....LP took off
Wow, great post brother. I see you are a pretty big guy too, so you must be very smart!
I guess size would indicate that someone is smart, and knows all there is to know about muscle phsyiology, and biochemistry then eh? I will try and type this message with smallish words so you can follow along. There are many ways to lift. Most of those ways will get you results. Over a long period of time training you can get great results unless you are on some rediculously poorly thought out program. Does this mean the way you got there is the best way? Or does that mean if you had done things differently you probably wouldn't be able to lift more? Hell no. I think what you fail to realize, is that when we have advanced discussions, we are talking about very small percentages of cause and effect. One way will work, but then we examine it with a microscope and find ways to improve a routine or diet or whatever. This may lead to only a 5% better gain in result or none, or much more. But to say a physique is all you need to believe in someone's concepts is a very foolish thing. Arnold was huge, but if you look at half the crap he said, he just plain had no clue what was going on with his body.As for me just flaming someone, obviously I didn't use simple enough english for that either. My original point was that one person is not enough to test out something. Of course, I am interested in hearing results, but the results to date seemed to me to be easily skewed by many different factors. As Snakeyes said, n=1 is not sufficient. Not that I expect gopro to go out and get an army to test it on...but I just like to post this stuff so others stop and think, before they run to their local supp shops and buy a product based on one persons view.
Kuso, I don't see why from board to board I need the same name. I have used ElPietro on mm.com, wbb, and a couple other boards. Most people just shorten it to "LP" so that's what I used here. Usually people who would know my posts would recognize this name and the way I answer and easily know who I am. Generally people think I'm a bit mean or offensive in my posts...but I am simply not wasting my time sugar coating things. If we are debating, I can easily debate without name calling and the such, but I'd expect the same courtesy back.
WBB is back and running, but I came back here. And as long as I'm permitted will probably still come back here. This board didn't seem to active yesterday...but maybe it was just slow. I don't have time for 1,001 forums, but if I think this board is worth taking a closer look at for myself. I don't know why you brought up wbb though, it's not like because someone posts on one site they are against other sites. Knowledge is knowledge, regardless of source.
This post is meant for the "3 stooges...Maki (training god...thats really funny), El Pietro (LP...loser personified), and Snake Eyes (still wondering who at WBB this lady is)..."
Well I'm glad to see that my thread has been ruined by a few psychologically distraught children. Oh, and believe me, you guys have mental/emotional problems. Anybody who literally seeks to try and do anything possible to dicredit another individual has serious issues to work out. Having graduated with a degree in psychology, at least I can sympathize somewhat with you 3, and try and understand that the mental handicaps you suffer MAY not be your fault. It could be genetic, or be the result of your environment. Either way, with medication and perhaps some intensive therapy, you can learn to feel better about yourselves and not have the need to feed your insecurities by needlessly and aimlessly attacking others. You have added nothing beneficial to a thread that was meant to help others. I'm just glad that you guys have another "home site" to go ruin.
Well I'm glad to see that my thread has been ruined by a few psychologically distraught children. Oh, and believe me, you guys have mental/emotional problems. Anybody who literally seeks to try and do anything possible to dicredit another individual has serious issues to work out. Having graduated with a degree in psychology, at least I can sympathize somewhat with you 3, and try and understand that the mental handicaps you suffer MAY not be your fault. It could be genetic, or be the result of your environment. Either way, with medication and perhaps some intensive therapy, you can learn to feel better about yourselves and not have the need to feed your insecurities by needlessly and aimlessly attacking others. You have added nothing beneficial to a thread that was meant to help others. I'm just glad that you guys have another "home site" to go ruin.
I see even though other members disagree with some of your statements you neglect to include them. All I attacked was your argument and methods, not your personage...yet you do so here. Perhaps you should point your psychology degree at yourself for a second, as you seem insecure. Is that why you mainly stay on a site where it seems everyone thinks you actually know what you are talking about? I remember a training article you wrote on WBB that was fraught with just plain "wrong" statements, even to the point where you speak of training muscle fibre types that don't even exist in human anatomy. Perhaps your degree should be in something other than psychology before you start claiming to be so knowledgeable in physiology and biochemistry. You are a big man, just not a smart one.
Originally posted by ~LP~
"Kuso, I don't see why from board to board I need the same name. I have used ElPietro on mm.com "
I just like to know who I`m talking to is all....nothing else........I do remember you from MM.com too.
"I can easily debate without name calling and the such, but I'd expect the same courtesy back. "
You may well be ABLE to, but until you stop taking cheap shots in every post you make, you`ll have trouble getting any courtesy back from anyone here.
"I don't know why you brought up wbb though, it's not like because someone posts on one site they are against other sites."
Do a search....or ask your buddies
"Knowledge is knowledge, regardless of source."
Now that is something I agree 100% with...........not even a hair to slpit
"Kuso, I don't see why from board to board I need the same name. I have used ElPietro on mm.com "
I just like to know who I`m talking to is all....nothing else........I do remember you from MM.com too.
"I can easily debate without name calling and the such, but I'd expect the same courtesy back. "
You may well be ABLE to, but until you stop taking cheap shots in every post you make, you`ll have trouble getting any courtesy back from anyone here.
"I don't know why you brought up wbb though, it's not like because someone posts on one site they are against other sites."
Do a search....or ask your buddies
"Knowledge is knowledge, regardless of source."
Now that is something I agree 100% with...........not even a hair to slpit
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Originally posted by ~LP~
Wow, great post brother. I see you are a pretty big guy too, so you must be very smart!
As for me just flaming someone, obviously I didn't use simple enough english for that either. My original point was that one person is not enough to test out something. Of course, I am interested in hearing results, but the results to date seemed to me to be easily skewed by many different factors. As Snakeyes said, n=1 is not sufficient. Not that I expect gopro to go out and get an army to test it on...but I just like to post this stuff so others stop and think, before they run to their local supp shops and buy a product based on one persons view.
I Beleive what my eyes tell me, you're fuckin retarded to beleive that Arnold didn't know what was going on with his body half the time, pictures of the dude from 16 and than again at 19 - 20 prove otherwise. Post some pics here idiot and lets have a look at how your "super duper" training program has done for you.
If you had an original point in that fuckin post it was lost in absolute childeshness, you really think that everyone here is stampeding down to GNC and that we all sit on the edge of our seats waitin g for him to post a new product name so we can run and purchase it.....wake up moron, I respect gopros opinion a hell of alot more than you but of course like everyone else here I will look into product myslef. You post that stuff so everyone doesn't run to thier local sup shop eh, you think after six-8 posts half of which were retarded flames people will respect your opinion. I've got and Idea just go back to wbb where people swallow garbage like the shit you have posted here.....or hve you been banned from there as well.........
OK, I dont' feel like sifting through the BS to find what I am looking for.
Gopro, are you taking this stuff according to label directions(minus the part about eating micellean) or are you just taking it once a day?
I bought what was left of a jug from one of my buddies in the supp industry who didn't like the taste. I ended up with citrus flavor and its tastes like crap, makes me wanna puke (although not so much anymore), and gives me an awesome pump even more so than V12, although I really like V12 too. I am only taking it postworkout with a serving of San's Volumass which amounts to 4-5 times a week. Do you think I am shortchanging myself by taking it less and not necessarily by the book?
Gopro, are you taking this stuff according to label directions(minus the part about eating micellean) or are you just taking it once a day?
I bought what was left of a jug from one of my buddies in the supp industry who didn't like the taste. I ended up with citrus flavor and its tastes like crap, makes me wanna puke (although not so much anymore), and gives me an awesome pump even more so than V12, although I really like V12 too. I am only taking it postworkout with a serving of San's Volumass which amounts to 4-5 times a week. Do you think I am shortchanging myself by taking it less and not necessarily by the book?
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Unless the source has a stick up his ass and refuses to post anything with any usefull information......LP.
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why not delete this thread and start it again? it has filled up with 2 extra pages of Bullshit.
Bj you are gay and dumb. Keep going by what your eyes tell you. Oh I saw that pic of you failing on your 3 plate press. Good job. Next time maybe a pic of you pushing the wait at least past your sticking point and not with the bar already out of balance might convince me. But don't get mad...I'm sure it's just the "test" talking. There there. You are one of those dumb meatheads who just listen and do what the biggest guy says I'm guessing. It would be great for you to stfu. My number of posts means nothing...unless you think posts on a site = intelligence. If you are going to be a dumbsh!t why not just f*ck off. Why would I post pics for you when you are just going to be a jackoff anyway. I have posted pics before, so I don't hide behind my screen if that's what you think, but I also don't use my pics regardless of how I look, to back up weak arguments. Maybe you should have spent more time in school, and less time in the gym you f*cking retard.
LP...you attacked nothing. Your attack was useless and only meant to try and bring me down. If you look at this thread, and how it started out you will see that I never mentioned how awesome I thought or think PE is. I only began to report the results that were beginning to manifest. However, if you read carefully you would see that I said that although my results were encouraging, that it was STILL too early on to tell anything definitive.
I have experimented with just about every supplement in existence and only a handful have produced ANY meaningful results. When I try out a new supplement I make sure a few basic things are in place...I take my bodyfat, my bodyweight, and have record of all of my lifts. I make sure NOTHING else changes in my routine...diet, supps (except for the one tested), sleep patterns, training program, etc. I then record EVERTHING from how the supp makes me feel to how it affects my workouts to daily weight fluctuations to every other bit of pertinent info I feel is needed.
I then test the supp for a minimum of 8 weeks. I then retake bodyfat, bodyweight, check every workout, etc, etc. Then, if the supplement shows some promise I will test it out on clients to expand my "study base." Aside from actually performing a "lab experiment," I know of no one who tests supps so carefully.
The results I reported were real and rather significant. The fact that I mentioned greater pumps is not so unusual and is something that after training for 15 years of training I can mark quite accurately (as in my training logs I also rate my pumps on a scale of 1-10). If you can't feel the difference from workout to workout after training for several years, than you are doing soemthing wrong.
As far as the strength gain. Sorry, those numbers if you read them are too significant to ignore. I had a similar feeling as is described to me by steroid users after they start a cycle...the weights just felt lighter.
Now I said...I made sure I said, that it is still too early to tell anything for sure...that I would need more time, but that I was encouraged. PE has NOT proven itself to me at this point, but it is sure ahead of most of the crap I've used on this market.
Now, if you do not have anything constructive to say...something that will actually help the members of this site, than stay over at WBB and keep your negativity over there.
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