I am currently using this product, so I decided to post a little writeup about my experience using it, considering Primordial doesn't get a lot of attention on these boards, but I feel they are a really great up and coming company that puts out real quality products at good prices (for the most part--which I will explain in a minute). Since they don't sell protein as of yet, I usually get all my other staples from them such as creatine and beta alanine, which they have great prices on--but this is about 1-T so I will stay on track.
i only have experience using one other 1-androsterone product, and I can say confidently that 3 weeks into my 1-T cycle, the 1-T is hands down a better product. I have a noticeable hardness to my muscles as well as some added definition. I haven't tracked weight gain partly because my diet has not changed, but the changes I have listed are definitely noticeable. Now you ask, how noticeable? Enough for me to notice and we all know when you look at yourself every minute of every day, it's harder to spot changes than someone who hasn't seen you in a month or so.
Strength seems good, I don't think I planned a proper workout plan for this cycle, being I putzed around the first 2 weeks, and then I started using the starr 5x5 periodized plan, which I planned would take me through the last 4 weeks of the 1-T, then I could go through the intensification phase while on PCT to try to keep the gains. I've noticed on my squats that the concentrics feel a lot stronger, but I reserve a full synopsis of strength until I get to the last week when the weights are going to be super challenging.
So, 3 weeks in, it seems to be working. Now, here's the caveat...is what is't doing worth the cost? This is a product that costs roughly $140 for a 6 week cycle when not on sale, plus the cost of your pct. Now, I like to use Primordial's testosterone recovery stack for pct because it is natural stuff and I don't want to get involved with nolva or stuff like that. However, this is expensive too, like $115 when not on sale. Now, they sell the 6 week cycle plus the pct together for around $220 when not on sale. I got the package on sale for $180. So the question to weigh is do you want to spend $200 for your muscles to get a little harder and add a tiny bit more definition? Personally, I wouldn't do it again at this cost, it's just not worth the money for the gains you get. Of course, pretty soon there may not be any alternative (if you can still get this stuff), so it would become supply/demand and if you want any help, you gotta pay for it.
I think the best course of action might be to pick up some tren super cheap before monday's ban, and use that for a cycle, and then pick up the testosterone recovery stack for pct, so you would be looking at maybe a $120-140 cycle, which will probably give you better results and is cheaper. But, after monday when this isn't an option anymore, you will have to decide for yourselves whether to get this 1-T product for the cost.
I think if they could somehow get the 6 week cycle package with the pct down to the $150 range, more people might be willing to get it, but once you go over that $200 mark, it becomes I think too expensive for what you get out of it.
I still have 2 and a half weeks to go, so I will post updates here when I see fit, and then give a concluding synopsis at the end of the cycle and at the end of pct. The product is definitely top notch as far as these androsterone products go, but maybe this is a fault of androsterone in general that it is just too expensive overall for what you get. Bottom line, if I had to get my hands on some of this stuff, I would rather spend the money for the Primordial 1-T then a different product which might cost a little bit less, because I know it's going to "work" (I use that lightly). Also remember, it's still just a prohormone, don't expect steroid sized muscles from it, i think the best you will get is what I've experienced with no side effects to speak of so far into it, so it appears to be super safe.
i only have experience using one other 1-androsterone product, and I can say confidently that 3 weeks into my 1-T cycle, the 1-T is hands down a better product. I have a noticeable hardness to my muscles as well as some added definition. I haven't tracked weight gain partly because my diet has not changed, but the changes I have listed are definitely noticeable. Now you ask, how noticeable? Enough for me to notice and we all know when you look at yourself every minute of every day, it's harder to spot changes than someone who hasn't seen you in a month or so.
Strength seems good, I don't think I planned a proper workout plan for this cycle, being I putzed around the first 2 weeks, and then I started using the starr 5x5 periodized plan, which I planned would take me through the last 4 weeks of the 1-T, then I could go through the intensification phase while on PCT to try to keep the gains. I've noticed on my squats that the concentrics feel a lot stronger, but I reserve a full synopsis of strength until I get to the last week when the weights are going to be super challenging.
So, 3 weeks in, it seems to be working. Now, here's the caveat...is what is't doing worth the cost? This is a product that costs roughly $140 for a 6 week cycle when not on sale, plus the cost of your pct. Now, I like to use Primordial's testosterone recovery stack for pct because it is natural stuff and I don't want to get involved with nolva or stuff like that. However, this is expensive too, like $115 when not on sale. Now, they sell the 6 week cycle plus the pct together for around $220 when not on sale. I got the package on sale for $180. So the question to weigh is do you want to spend $200 for your muscles to get a little harder and add a tiny bit more definition? Personally, I wouldn't do it again at this cost, it's just not worth the money for the gains you get. Of course, pretty soon there may not be any alternative (if you can still get this stuff), so it would become supply/demand and if you want any help, you gotta pay for it.
I think the best course of action might be to pick up some tren super cheap before monday's ban, and use that for a cycle, and then pick up the testosterone recovery stack for pct, so you would be looking at maybe a $120-140 cycle, which will probably give you better results and is cheaper. But, after monday when this isn't an option anymore, you will have to decide for yourselves whether to get this 1-T product for the cost.
I think if they could somehow get the 6 week cycle package with the pct down to the $150 range, more people might be willing to get it, but once you go over that $200 mark, it becomes I think too expensive for what you get out of it.
I still have 2 and a half weeks to go, so I will post updates here when I see fit, and then give a concluding synopsis at the end of the cycle and at the end of pct. The product is definitely top notch as far as these androsterone products go, but maybe this is a fault of androsterone in general that it is just too expensive overall for what you get. Bottom line, if I had to get my hands on some of this stuff, I would rather spend the money for the Primordial 1-T then a different product which might cost a little bit less, because I know it's going to "work" (I use that lightly). Also remember, it's still just a prohormone, don't expect steroid sized muscles from it, i think the best you will get is what I've experienced with no side effects to speak of so far into it, so it appears to be super safe.
