My Wife Needs Good Advice

[bigmike-7]

My wife's first cycle was:

weeks 1-20 2iu's HGH per day
weeks 1-10 75mg's decca per week
weeks 1-12 10mg's anavar per day

We wanted to strengthen her shoulder and back because they were both weak from surgery. She did gain some muscle and strength but in the process retained a whole bunch of water. She since then has lost a lot of mobility in her shoulder and I'm worried about her lifting enough weight to build anything. She's read a bit about MGF and wants to give it a try. I just don't know if it's worth the money or not for her. She has put on 15-20lbs of fat and wants to loose that as well.
I had planned to do about the same thing for her second cycle minus the HGH. (for financial reasons) I was going to get some proviron or masteron for my libido probs. and thought maybe I should incorporate that into her second cycle as well.
So here's what I need advice on.
Should she do anavar or proviron/masteron to stay lean and keep the water down?
Should she try MGF? Wheather she should or not how many bottles would she need for a good cycle?
Is there anything stronger for the libido than proviron/masteron?
Any other advice would be greatly appreciated as well. THIS FORUM IS THE BEST

 

[Goldenera]

What makes u think masteron will help with libido? test is the hot ticket for libido ESP with the proviron.

 

[bigmike-7]

What makes u think masteron will help with libido? test is the hot ticket for libido ESP with the proviron.

I thought proviron and masteron were about the same thing only one was injectable. Thanks for the heads up. After 3 cycles my libido is gone. It's pretty humbling

 

[Digitalash]

Mast is very androgenic, don't give that to her. I would think the same of proviron but I'm not sure


as for your libido get on some test and take a cialis once in a while, show that girl what's up lmao

 

[bigmike-7]

Mast is very androgenic, don't give that to her. I would think the same of proviron but I'm not sure


as for your libido get on some test and take a cialis once in a while, show that girl what's up lmao

Ok cool, I love test. For some reason I thought there was stronger stuff out there.

 

[dawun]

You need test proviron cialis viagra and rest. But why steroids for your wife? You know that steroids is not for females?! She needs a good diet and diet and diet moar protein, more water intake, vitamins omega 3 cla , a good fat burner lipo 6 black for hers or oxyelite pro with alphat2 and erase. And cardio,cardio,cardio.

 

[teezhay]

Dude, I'm facepalming so goddamn hard right now.

I don't even know what you were thinking pumping her with deca. After surgical reconstruction, she should have been training for endurance ... not bulk. That's why physical therapy regimens involve lots of reps at a relatively low weight. HGH was a terrific idea, but that's all she needed.

When coming back from a surgery, you want to cultivate lean, durable, MOBILE muscles. Then when you've built a healthy foundation, you can bulk. But don't just start bulking right away unless you'd like another surgery relatively soon.

 

[bjg]

as said above ..is your wife a pro bodybuilder? if not why in a hell she wants to do steroid cycles? as for rebuilding after an injury ..steroids are not made for that......proviron for your wife?? not sure why....
she got surgery and recovering ..why she does not do as advised by her doctor?
and how old are you and your wife?

 

[Kirk B]

get the halo for her on here by IM if you want to give your wife something , and and do the hgh


YOUR WIFE SHOULDN'T BE ON DECA AT ALL OR TEST OR ANY ANDROGEN"S ANYTHING FOR MEN AT ALL!!!!

 

[overburdened]

I thought proviron and masteron were about the same thing only one was injectable. Thanks for the heads up. After 3 cycles my libido is gone. It's pretty humbling

masteron is drostanolone(propionate or dipropionate.. enanthate is also and ester that is common)... this is very similar to dht(your body naturally produces dht(it is far more androgenic than test and has a much higher affinity for the ar ... women do take mast, but usually only for comps...)...
proviron is similar, but not quite the same base molecule(and, it's methylated).. this changes EVERYTHING...

proviron at 25mg/day doesn't really have drastic sides in women(it does help with pms)... it will increase sex drive dramatically(in men and women, different doses of course)...proviron is very androgenic too.. so, if you are going to have her use it, start at 12.5mg/day(may be sufficient).. should help with sex drive better than var, and, imo, is a better hardener(though she won't gain much muscle off of it)

 

[Digitalash]

Nothing's better than test for libido, stacking proviron on top or mast can help but only with a good foundation of test

Stick with anavar for females IMO, unless she's competing and needs to look buff as hell then that's all she needs plus good diet/cardio/lifting

 

[bigmike-7]

Wow it sure seems like a lot of people are opposed to women using aas at all. My wife had great results from var and decca. The added strength really helped her recover from her surgeries. She also enjoys having more muscle mass just as you or I would. I neglected to mention she has a condition called edhlers-danlos which basically makes her ligaments and tendons so lax that having added muscle helps keeps the joints in their sockets. Basically more strength equals less pain and more stability for her. I could be convinced that she should do less weight with more reps but deccas ability to add strength and make joints feel so much better shouldn't be overlooked. I would have given her winstrol or primo but after researching aas for women decca and var seemed to be the safest. She really wants to try igf, mgf or both does anyone know how much she would need to achieve some good results? I have to say she really likes the much faster results with aas as opposed to naturaly training, just like we do. Thanks for all the feedback please keep it up. I know there are a lot of women taking decca and var other than bodybuilder chicks. I'd love to hear from one.

 

[overburdened]

aas do help with recovery... that is not a question in anyones mind on here... what a noncompeting woman should take? nothing long term... but short term therapy isn't necessarily a bad idea.. in fact, her surgeon knows that aas are beneficial in recovery and would probably be willing to write her a script(they do make test that has different estrogens in it to offset sides in women.. and he could have pretty much anything compounded that is fda approved).. and I'm sure he would write her a script for hgh, since that will probably help more than anything... talk with her dr about all this... they aren't ALL bad guys..

 

[bigmike-7]

aas do help with recovery... that is not a question in anyones mind on here... what a noncompeting woman should take? nothing long term... but short term therapy isn't necessarily a bad idea.. in fact, her surgeon knows that aas are beneficial in recovery and would probably be willing to write her a script(they do make test that has different estrogens in it to offset sides in women.. and he could have pretty much anything compounded that is fda approved).. and I'm sure he would write her a script for hgh, since that will probably help more than anything... talk with her dr about all this... they aren't ALL bad guys..

Bro you really know what your talking about. My wife was prescribed a strange peptide a while back. I wish I could remember what it was. The sides were crazy though. I definitely want to get her to a doctor who knows what he's doing maybe he'll even prescribe her 10iu's a day so I can have a few LOL

 

[overburdened]

what was she prescribed the peptide for? is she diabetic?

 

[bigmike-7]

No it was after she had a shoulder fusion done to help4 build up her bone. It came in some kind of injection pen. I wish I could remember the name. Her insurance covered it but without insurance it was around $1,000. One of the sides was high risk of bone cancer, also extreme leg cramping. Nasty peptide. I remember her doctor back then was not against HGH. Unfortunately he is 4,000 miles away.

 

[Pork Chop]

masteron is drostanolone(propionate or dipropionate.. enanthate is also and ester that is common)... this is very similar to dht(your body naturally produces dht(it is far more androgenic than test and has a much higher affinity for the ar ... women do take mast, but usually only for comps...)...
proviron is similar, but not quite the same base molecule(and, it's methylated).. this changes EVERYTHING...

proviron at 25mg/day doesn't really have drastic sides in women(it does help with pms)... it will increase sex drive dramatically(in men and women, different doses of course)...proviron is very androgenic too.. so, if you are going to have her use it, start at 12.5mg/day(may be sufficient).. should help with sex drive better than var, and, imo, is a better hardener(though she won't gain much muscle off of it)

Would you give your opionions on Master and Prov in males? Good info bro. What benifits Master has over Prov and vise versa....

 

[sassy69]

Just chiming in. Please let's not get into the "wimmens shouldn't be using steroids". Its not helping the situation & its a done deal. She used steroids.

I agree on not using deca - its a longer-acting ester (which typically means more aggressive sides and you have to wait for the compound to clear, while enjoying the water retention associated w/ the high degree of aromatization). If anything to leverage the healing aspect for joints , check out equipoise, which has some ability to promote connective tissue w/o the high aromitization.

At the base I would like very much that you don't start building stacks for this & that result - specifically looking for stuff to increase libido and then other stuff to lose bodyfat. The libido thing is a slippery slope because you can't run a compound forever because you like the sex. Its the last reason I'd suggest someone running a cycle. And in terms of using steroids to lean out - if your diet isn't already producing those results, get that shit in order first. Your diet & training are ALWAYS your foundation, and whatever other supplements are always only going to be SUPPLEMENTS to that already working foundation. This is one difference between people who compete & people who don't - if you want the look, but haven't done extensive work playing w/ your diet to produce the results you want- both off-season bulkers or competition cutters, then you're probably shortsheeting yourself. It is quite amazing what can be accomplished w/ a good diet. Sure, better w/ the drugs, but if you diet is random and you use the drugs to do the heavy lifting, you get sloppy results and a lot of excess stress on your body.

I'd defer to anyone else about the IGF, etc. Don't know much about the peptides.