Nandralone Cyp

[Vision]

... I got distracted. So the the process isn't as simple as take raw hormone, add ester ... Boom! New product? Wasnt tren enanth created by ugls?

Unfortunately it isn't that simply, and more complex then people would imagine. The Best way to brake this down, Test is test correct? To name some of the most common ones that we see -[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]cypionate, enanthate, acetate, propionate, phenylpropionate, isocaproate, caproate, decanoate, and undecanoate.. Now, reading back at the names here why is it that some Raws cost more than others? It's still the same hormone, just a different ester correct? Yes, but Because the preparation that applies to creating the "ester" or functional group is much more perplexed than one would think. Home brewing/ULG ext pretty much take the "already compounded hormone in ester" heat/mix and filter the raw into the carrier oil of choice (we all know this) and Walla - you have your batch!
however to create the ester alone needs to be done at [/FONT]compounding pharmacy that specialize mainly in the preparation/[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]mixing raw ingredients. Now creating the "ester" itself is such a process which typicality is done by heating acids and alcohols (names that our brains couldn't possibly fathom), for short esters its much more easier, longer esters take more time with heating blah blah. This process takes some serious know how! Just about every single UGL on the market is just blending their own batches with raws they're buying elsewhere. No one is creating THEIR OWN raw and ester. As I said before, that's for the compounding pharmacies. Now for the cypioante ester, it's one of the most unstable esters available and not the greatest choice. It's very unstable at higher doses as we all know, so compounding it alone is a task. That being said, if it was available to the UGL market you could count on it being one of the more difficult ones to blend..For the market They found this compound nandrolone cypionate not very profitable so it's life span was short lived..
Now I agree that there is a huge market for us BB's, but keep in mine we are still the 1% of the population.. We are not normal as the rest of society sees it.. So what we WANT,GET and wish for is completely different things.

Now if we all think long and hard here, there really hasn't been any major brakethroughs in AAS in over the past 12-20 years, the only thing that has changed much was the delivery method of compounds, and the ester chains itself.. So pretty much the market is selling itself on what's in demands and whats not..Treatment centers have no use for the compound at question here, so now there's no profit,or market. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]

 

[theCaptn']

That was the answer I was hoping for vision - props man

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

We support you regardless.. Just keep us posted because this would be very interesting to follow. Because of the unfortunate nature that happens in this business, I'm very skeptical in my older years when it comes to gear. I seen people get burned and been burned myself many times over. I also agree on dumping green backs else where in life, so what's 60-80$? Thats like buying tickets to a bad show..Do it once and chalk it up as an experience!

I doubt it would be bad if anything its prob just gonna be nandrolone deconate sold at a higher price as cyp, much like ugls sell tren hex at high prices when its really just tren e.
As a side note id love to try Nandrolone cypionate and I like the idea of it. I will be following along with this for sure.

 

[Christsean]

The simplest method of synthesis of steroid esters is reaction of the steroid in a 2:1 mixture of pyridine and the anhydride of the desired ester: for example, propionic anhydride would be used to make the propionate ester. A large excess (at least 10 times) of the anhydride compared to the steroid is required. This would then be purified by diluting with at least 10 parts of water to each part of pyridine, adding 1 part ether, decanting the water after shaking, and then washing with 10 parts water repeatedly in a separatory funnel. This would be followed preferably by recrystallization or chromatography for purification.

That is the simplification of a reasonably complex reaction. To me, a highly motivated chemist could potentially dedicate his effort to converting base powders to estered compounds.

 

[Swfl]

I confirmed they can make it but do not stock it Minimum order would be 5KG... anyone wanna go in with me? I will never use that much in 10 life times.

 

[Christsean]

Im with you. If they can make ester x, they just need to use cypionic anhydride to make cypionate. If the company that manufactures says they will make it, I'll take it.