Natural Vs Test

[a-roid]

Say someone starts steroids at 100lbs, vs someone who starts naturally say at 100lbs and it takes them 6 or 7 years of hard work, vs the 3 on juice. When the one who is cycling comes off at say 200, will they drop down to back to 130 because it's done with drugs, or are those gains keepable? I had an arguement with my friend saying because someone started before their natural peak will go back down to exactly where they started or close where they started saying that juicing is pretty much a waste of money and time.

 

[Intense]

Usually the gains are lost because a person juicing without knowledge of proper diet/training cant stick to it after anabolics. They aren't magic.

 

[a-roid]

That's correct, but let's say someone continues to work out naturally and as hard as they did on juice. The person will most likely hit exactly where they started, not right away, but after a while.

 

[jay_steel]

this is all bro science there are to many factors that come into place. genetics, pct, and diet. I went from 178 to 210 and when I PCT'd for my first time in a while a few months ago i held steady at 205 with slight strength decrease. I did not drop back to 180's or lose allot of size. It all comes down to post cycle diet and training. Not overtraining and ect. To many variables to many different types of people.