Need Advice On D-bol

[Mudge]

Since it is probably going to be asked, I tried Chemi-Sport 1-Test, and used only the suggested dose (they say 1-2 caps, I did 2, 100mg per cap). Cost me nearly $80 for 60 caps. Essentially speaking none of my lifts went up enough that I felt I was on anything special. The price is now a bit lower ($50ish), but it still seems quite expensive and I just dont trust it.

Of course there are always claims of brands and raw materials, and of course the dosing problem, I say problem because it would IMO cost an assinine amount of money to get some kind of results.

Wether wrong or not I just shun the for the most, most of the supplement industry. Unless its a vitamin or has to do with mood or the brain I usually pay it no mind. Same with my 2 pounder of German quality creatine, never noticed anything special with it at 10g a day.

 

[RCfootball87]

Originally posted by gr81
It isn't useless repoj, it has its place in a cycle. If you are not comfortable with the injection process then you might as well give up wanting to hop on the juice, the orals are only going to get you so far. Also if you are strapped for cash, I would seriously re think hoppin on the juice. It is certainly an expenditure that will not be light in the wallet. I would take this time if I were you, and learn all that you can about AAS. There are plenty of books out there that can give you the knowledge you need to have to get the most out of this. Get a basic understanding of what the drugs are, how they affect your body, and what the differences are. PLenty of info out there to soak up. Once you have done that then you will be on your way to having the knowledge you need. Knowledge is power, especially when it comes to bodybuilding, good luck.

I agree with GR here, If you don't want to inject you're wasting your time. If you only want to take orals it would probably be hazardous to take more than one at once due to the toxic effects on the liver etc. I have heard stories of people seeing decent strength and/or size gains from using just winstrol for a cycle but I've never used steroids so I honestly wouldn't be the one to tell you either way on that.

 

[RCfootball87]

Originally posted by Mudge
Same with my 2 pounder of German quality creatine, never noticed anything special with it at 10g a day.

How long were you on and did you load? Did you just take pure creatine in water? You may have just needed something to give you the insulin spike but you never know, there are non-responders. I've seen very impressive gains from creatine. Lol, I guess with the gains I've made from it I might be somewhat bias towards giving it a seconds chance, or a thrid.....

 

[BUSTINOUT]

TP, I say go for it and see what your results are...couldn't hurt. Have you done 1-test before? if not, it will be hard for you to gauge where your gains are goming from, but I would put my money on the d-bol. I have not tried any of the legal supps in a very long time so I am not up on them like some of the others, so I cannot give an accurate opinion. But I do believe that with injectable it is alot easier to keep blood levels consistant...unless you are using friggin sust or suspension. lol

repoj, not need to feel stupid at all man. As for the moral issue of bring a needle into the picture, it is not the needle that detirmines whether it is moral or not. Needle or oral, they both are classified the same...illegal. And orals whcih are much more taxing on the liver should not be considered the lesser of two evils. Good luck in whatever you decide. gr8 is right though, it is a pricey hobby. Crap, I spend more on food than I do on the stuff itself. lol

 

[repoj]

BUSTINOUT-I appreciate your witty insight into this matter. I talked to the dude that gave me the D-BOL and he offered to either trade me up for WINNI tabs or SUSTENON amps. And your right, the food is insane!! I eat my parents out of house and home and still can't make up for what I need on my own food budget lol.
Here's a good question for you though-I talked to a trusted friend of mine that has tried just about everything there is, and he suggests that SUST is the best test out there-at least in his experience. I would much wrather do something that won't mess up my liver-and my friend said that he would do my first injection for me. My question is the sust that the DUDE offered me he said was in a glass amp and had no label. My good friend said that most sust amps SHOULD have the labeling practicaly burnt into the glass-basically just painted on. What are your thoughts on the winny tabs or the sust? I know that taking sustenon 250 alone will be awesome-I'v seen good results. What's your thoughts?

 

[Mudge]

Sust is overrated, but if I had to live on orals or injectables alone there is no question at all it would be an injectable. If you can get enan or cyp it should be cheaper.

Also, vials are cheaper than buying by the amp, and IMO easier to deal with.

 

[gr81]

I agree wit mudge that you would want to grab the cyp before the sust., it is overrated. Vials are cheaper than the amps but if the amp are legit then you will prebably be better off, you can't trust those mexican vet companies for shit. There products are severly under dosed, if they are legit at all.
check out this site repoj:http://rxmuscle.com/anboliclabpg.htm
In the long run, I bet mg for mg the amps would be your best bet if you can afford it. Be sure to do lots of research and look at lots of product pics before you buy anything, you don't want to get scammed, which is pretty easy being new to this.

 

[Mudge]

Originally posted by RCfootball87
How long were you on and did you load? Did you just take pure creatine in water?

I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid, I know about creatine delivery. It was 2 pounds and I took 10g a day, I'm afraid I'll leave it to you to figure how long it lated, I loaded with 20g for a week, not a standard load but either way it matters not.

 

[BUSTINOUT]

i will have to agree with Mudge...Sust is over-rated. Don't get me wrong, it works but I like enathate or cyp better. I also like to hit about 100mg/EOD of test propionate for the first four weeks.

As for the winny tabs, you'll get less gains that you will from the d-bol.