Need advice!

[matt23]

I have one test only cycle under my belt. I ran 500mgs sust for 10 weeks. My current stats are 5'10.5", 193lbs, 26yrs old.

I want to run a sust deca cycle. I have decided at 600mgs sust and 400mgs deca.
1-14 sust 600mgs
1-12 deca 400 Mgs
2-14 hcg 500iu
17-20 clomid 50/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20

I also have letro. What should I use to combat gyno... I know there are two types when referring to test and nandrolones. I'm trying to find out what ai I should run while on cycle. Low dose nolva and letro?

Help me out guys!
Thanks

 

[VictorZ06]

More clomid (100/100/75/50), drop nolva, use an AI like adex or aromasin throughout entire cycle. IMHO.




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[chold]

I'm running .5mg arimidex for my AI (you can also try aromasin @ 12.5mg ED or EOD), and have added in nolva because of gyno symptoms (apparently I'm gyno prone). The nolva seems to be doing the trick.

 

[matt23]

More clomid (100/100/75/50), drop nolva, use an AI like adex or aromasin throughout entire cycle. IMHO.




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I doubt i would do that well on that high of a dose of clomid. 50mgs already makes me moody as f**k. I was mainly trying to find the best ai to run on cycle bc I've hear that nolva with deca can trigger progesterone related gyno... So would aromaisn cover gyno from test and deca or what? It's my first "stack" with multiple compounds, so I want everything in order.

 

[pieguy]

Yea AROMASIN is the ideal anti-aromatization compound that you stack with CABERGOLIN or pramipexole. I'm on caber rite now and this shit is godlike. U can bust a nut, wait 5 min and ur good to go again. I kid u not. Pramipexole or caber are used to stop progesterone related sides.

 

[matt23]

Yea AROMASIN is the ideal anti-aromatization compound that you stack with CABERGOLIN or pramipexole. I'm on caber rite now and this shit is godlike. U can bust a nut, wait 5 min and ur good to go again. I kid u not. Pramipexole or caber are used to stop progesterone related sides.

What's the dosage for the above ais for progesterone?

 

[pieguy]

12.5-25mg daily of AROMASIN
.5mg every 3 days or biweekly

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

I would just run the sustanon if I were you. Sust is already 4 different compounds, so save the deca for another cycle and see how your body reacts to the sust.

Make sure you pin the sust EOD to take full advantage of the short esters!

 

[matt23]

I would just run the sustanon if I were you. Sust is already 4 different compounds, so save the deca for another cycle and see how your body reacts to the sust.

Make sure you pin the sust EOD to take full advantage of the short esters!

Why would I wait? I have already done 2 test only cycles. And sust isnt 4 diff compounds buddy, it's one compound, test, with 4 different esters. Research and read

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

Why would I wait? I have already done 2 test only cycles. And sust isnt 4 diff compounds buddy, it's one compound, test, with 4 different esters. Research and read

Listen FUCKTARD, your original post clearly states that you have ONE CYCLE OF SUST: 500MG FOR 10 WEEKS. If you want to get technical, Sustanon contains four esterized testosterone compounds. Go back to bodybuilding.com and have a lovely day!

 

[matt23]

Listen FUCKTARD, your original post clearly states that you have ONE CYCLE OF SUST: 500MG FOR 10 WEEKS. If you want to get technical, Sustanon contains four esterized testosterone compounds. Go back to bodybuilding.com and have a lovely day!

Yeah, one recently and another over a year ago. Regardless i said i had already done the test only cycle. Anyone that knows anything knows test is test. Sust is a single compound that has multiple esters. The esters refer to when the test is released. Regardless of ester its the same thing. You obviously need a dictionary bc u don't fully understand what the words compound or ester means. Go on any other board and ask if u don't believe me.

I dont have to call you names. I hope your a teenager after that display of immaturity. Read below it will explain it for you smart guy.

Btw heres some quotes, from Organon, the manufacturer and creator of sust in the first place. " The premise was simple; provide a testosterone based compound that would only need to be administered once every few weeks by combining multiple esters into ONE SINGLE COMPOUND for a steady continuous release of the testosterone hormone and the premise proved to be successful. ". This drug was very popular in the 80???s and 90???s, and was often thought of as being a ???stack??? in one drug. This isn???t really accurate, because, in the end all you have is testosterone once your body has metabolized it."

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

Yeah, one recently and another over a year ago. Regardless i said i had already done the test only cycle. Anyone that knows anything knows test is test. Sust is a single compound that has multiple esters. The esters refer to when the test is released. Regardless of ester its the same thing. You obviously need a dictionary bc u don't fully understand what the words compound or ester means. Go on any other board and ask if u don't believe me.

I dont have to call you names. I hope your a teenager after that display of immaturity. Read below it will explain it for you smart guy.

Btw heres some quotes, from Organon, the manufacturer and creator of sust in the first place. " The premise was simple; provide a testosterone based compound that would only need to be administered once every few weeks by combining multiple esters into ONE SINGLE COMPOUND for a steady continuous release of the testosterone hormone and the premise proved to be successful. ". This drug was very popular in the 80???s and 90???s, and was often thought of as being a ???stack??? in one drug. This isn???t really accurate, because, in the end all you have is testosterone once your body has metabolized it."

Just ditch the sustanon and run a gram of deca per week. use Tamoxifen if you show any signs of progesterone related gyno. You'll be a monster with a hard on 24/7!!!

 

[matt23]

Just ditch the sustanon and run a gram of deca per week. use Tamoxifen if you show any signs of progesterone related gyno. You'll be a monster with a hard on 24/7!!!

Why would anyone run a deca only cycle? Do you just make up stuff to tell people or are you purposely trying to sabotage me?

I know ur kind. The typical juice head that thinks they know everything. You probably have little to no formal education. If I had to guess you are either lower middle class or poverty level. I feel bad for you. You get so upset when ppl correct the inaccurate info you give out. Do yourself a favor. Learn from a mistake and man up.

 

[pieguy]

What a funny thread you've made this animalhouse lol.


1-14 sust 600mgs
1-12 deca 400 Mgs
2-14 hcg 500iu
1-16 12.5mg aromasin daily
17-20 clomid 100/75/50/50, aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
1-14 .5mg cabergoline bi-weekly or e3d

I'd personally throw in a kickstart of dbol or anadrol. If you do a dbol kicker, i'd do 4-6 weeks @ 50mg daily.

1-14 sust 600mgs
1-6 50mg dbol
1-12 deca 400 Mgs
2-14 hcg 500iu
1-6 25mg aromasin daily or even 25mg twice daily
7-16 12.5mg aromasin daily
17-20 clomid 100/75/50/50, aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
1-14 .5mg cabergoline bi-weekly or e3d

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

Why would anyone run a deca only cycle? Do you just make up stuff to tell people or are you purposely trying to sabotage me?

I think you're an asshole, so I'm giving you advice on a cycle that only an asshole would take. Please note that an asshole wouldn't know better than to take nolva while on a 19-nor like deca. So buy that deca and nolva in bulk and tear up some weights!!!!!

 

[bigron164]

Enanthate

Just had shoulder surgery, this is my ninth week after surgery i feel great.
I went back to the gym going light of course im on my second week of test E.
Can anyone tell me if 500mg a week is enough to put on size? When im on my game im 230lbs, now i'm 206lbs. 6'1" 10% bf.
thanks in advance..
shoot tuesday & friday... Got some andropen 275 & EQ 300 saving that till im 100%. Hope the test E is good enough for now

 

[matt23]

I think you're an asshole, so I'm giving you advice on a cycle that only an asshole would take. Please note that an asshole wouldn't know better than to take nolva while on a 19-nor like deca. So buy that deca and nolva in bulk and tear up some weights!!!!!

Once again you have failed to read you fool. The nolva comes in 3 weeks after last test inject. No where did I say i would run nolva while on cycle. You are pathetic. Don't get mad bc I know way More than you thought little guy.

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

 

[matt23]

Just had shoulder surgery, this is my ninth week after surgery i feel great.
I went back to the gym going light of course im on my second week of test E.
Can anyone tell me if 500mg a week is enough to put on size? When im on my game im 230lbs, now i'm 206lbs. 6'1" 10% bf.
thanks in advance..
shoot tuesday & friday... Got some andropen 275 & EQ 300 saving that till im 100%. Hope the test E is good enough for now

I'd recommend working out natural until you plateau again. But I'm sure numb nuts will tell you different.

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

Once again you have failed to read you fool. The nolva comes in 3 weeks after last test inject. No where did I say i would run nolva while on cycle. You are pathetic. Don't get mad bc I know way More than you thought little guy.

All I was saying is to go BUY nolva. I didn't say you had any order...

Running Nolva while running deca is a train wreck waiting to happen. I want you to thoroughly enjoy that wreck!

 

[matt23]

Have a nice day animalhouse. You have proved your ignorance and stupidity well enough. No response to the lack of education and $ comment. Must be true.

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

Have a nice day animalhouse. You have proved your ignorance and stupidity well enough. No response to the lack of education and $ comment. Must be true.

This is the internet. Who cares where I received my education, what I do for a living and how much my salary is??? I could see if we were arguing at a bar, but on a bodybuilding forum? Really?!?!?!?

 

[sar012977]

I just fucking wasted 10 minutes reading this bullshit arguing back and forth.. If you guys wanna argue and put each other down, do that shit on another forum.. if you dont like the advise or the comment one gives .. who gives a flying FUK!! move on and do your own thing.. Its a waste!

 

[pieguy]

Took you 10 minutes to read like 1 page of posts?!? Jeebus...

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

I just fucking wasted 10 minutes reading this bullshit arguing back and forth.. If you guys wanna argue and put each other down, do that shit on another forum.. if you dont like the advise or the comment one gives .. who gives a flying FUK!! move on and do your own thing.. Its a waste!

The only one to blame is yourself! Sorry for the inconvenience

Can a mod please close this???

 

[sar012977]

Took you 10 minutes to read like 1 page of posts?!? Jeebus...

yes it actually did.. i was also taking phone calls during reading it. I am working actually... Not sitting home in front of the comp.

 

[sar012977]

The only one to blame is yourself! Sorry for the inconvenience

Can a mod please close this???

ha.. ur right.. and i am still posting.. dumb ass me!

 

[VictorZ06]

Ok boys, I think it's enough....CLOSED.




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