need help for a super skinny guy

[drew.haynes]

I wanna see a pic

 

[jaim91]

fuck man i have read this one thing on the internet about 30 day mcdonalds diet you eat mcdonalads for breakfeast lunch and dinner and gain like two pounds in a month! haha try that shit out..

That was the whole Supersize me thing. The guy gained 30 pounds in a month, not two, lol. But he also damaged his liver, and his electrolytes went crazy

 

[XcelKrush]

Ground Rolled Oats (just use a blender) - baby cereal also works really well
Skim Milk (or skim milk powder)
FF/SF yoghurt
Fruit - esp banana. Berries are yummy too.
PB
Ground flaxmeal
Whey powder/protein powder
cottage cheese
Although I would not advocate dextrose or malto, in your case you could also think about adding a tbs honey...

How could I forget the honey

Thanks Emma

Also, are the sugars in bananas or honey high on the chart for insulin response? I might need to make some of these shakes as well. 4K a day and gains still come slowly....

 

[drew.haynes]

How could I forget the honey

Thanks Emma

Also, are the sugars in bananas or honey high on the chart for insulin response? I might need to make some of these shakes as well. 4K a day and gains still come slowly....

HOW do you get 4k a day? Seriously... I am pissed about my own goals. I was gaining 2lbs a week last semester at school. It makes NO sense... I was eating 2 meals a day + a few scoops whey, and random snacking on junk and tons of sugar. I would be amazed if I was getting more cals than I am now... yet now my gains are all strength... I haven't gained weight in over a month and a half and it drives me NUTS.

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Also, are the sugars in bananas or honey high on the chart for insulin response? I might need to make some of these shakes as well. 4K a day and gains still come slowly....

I could tell you what they found for the banana but they have not tested honey.... and I probably couldn't guess it very well...

Although they have similar fructose to glucose ratios I don't think their response would anything near similar... The banana would probably be lower as it has a bit of starch and fibre in it - where as the honey is just they sugars... And for all the other things they tested more starch and less sugars usually ment a lower insulin response...

A small banana of 80g (19g carbs worth) is a moderate GI carb [~55 (GL =12)] and will have:
starch (about 4.5g)
fibre (2g)
glucose (~4g)
fructose (~3.5g)
sucrose (~2g)

The honey - 1 tbs/20g (17g carb worth) is also moderate GI carb ['average' ~55 (GL = 25)] but:
no starch
no fibre
glucose (~7.5g)
fructose (~8.5g)
sucrose (~2g)

The GI of honey is also pretty variable (depends on the bee, quality of the nectar and other things) so the glycemic index can go from as low as in the 30's to as high as the 80's...

Anyway - in terms of the banana and the insulin index - you really need to be careful in looking at the numbers because:

"In the insulin index study, we measured glycemic scores and insulin scores for 1000 kJ [~230 Calorie] portions of foods. They are not GI values. In a healthy person that has fasted for more than 10-12 hours overnight, cheese and steak can cause a small rise in blood glucose in the second hour of our 2 hour test periods due to gluconeogenesis. Also the normal fluctuations in blood glucose around the fasting value that our experiments start from produce some area above the fasting blood glucose level, which is used to calculate both GI and glycemic score values."

This means that the glycaemic score they got were usually much higher than those in the proper GI studies... and, very predictably, they would have therefore had a greater insulin response too.

They also standardised the results using white bread (they set glycaemic reponse and insulin response to 100 for this, and then ranked everything else accordingly)... And the traditional glycaemic index we use is based on 100g glucose (although they also have lists based on white bread).

You also have to remember that this insulin response is FASTED - and for that single food only... And it is for 230 cals worth (which is 2 medium bananas)... So once you use the food in a normal situation there is even less worth in the number.

So you can't really take an awfull lot from the study... The best it can do is give you a guide to see if a food is 'insulinogenic' or not....

But the numbers:

Banana
Glycaemic response: 79
Insulin response: 81


And a few things to compare it with:
Porridge (Oatmeal)
G. response: 60
Insulin response: 40

Jellybeans
G response: 118
Insulins response: 160

White rice
G response: 110
I response: 79


If you are having trouble with calories then I'd certainly include the banana.... And maybe add a little honey as well.

 

[baonilon]

Yes you should. Go for pure fish oil (not cod liver oil) and something with 1000mg of fish oil, 180mg DHA, 120mg EPA per capsule is fine.

Try not to get one with Vit A in it - as you don't want too much of this.

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should I get this ?

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Amount Per Serving % DV
Calories 10
Calories from Fat 10
Total Fat 1g 2%
EPA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) (omega-3) 180 mg **
DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid)(omega-3) 120 mg **
** Daily Value (DV) not established.

 

[Emma-Leigh]

should I get this ?

http://www.gnc.com/productDetails.a...ound:#ffff00">&Post=</FONT>&id=106611&lang=en

If you want - they will give you what you need... But I am sure there are cheaper options out there for you.

 

[baonilon]

what other options do I have? thanks

 

[Emma-Leigh]

what other options do I have? thanks

I have no idea. I live in Australia.... I remember Jodi mentioning she gets some from costo for REALLY cheap - but you would have to look/ask around for your options.

 

[michael74737]

OMG 95lbs?! Eat anything thats around you.

-Minus Sugar

 

[baonilon]

will go to Costco this weekend, thanks a lot Emma-Leigh

 

[lpz213]

damn, u aint michael jackson by any chance?! cuz u lanky ass fuck!

 

[Nate K]

No, hes only 5'8

 

[baonilon]

damn, u aint michael jackson by any chance?! cuz u lanky ass fuck!

I don't think that was necessary, if I wasn't needing to gain weight, I prolly wouldn't be asking for help here

 

[lpz213]

^ dam, u butt hurt? take a joke dogg.

 

[baonilon]

Update: after 4 weeks of training, mostly doing 10 reps, 8 reps, and 6 reps per set, my "trainer" had me try to max out with 1 rep and for Bench - 110lbs, Lunges 145lbs, Squats - 205lbs. We're gonna revise the program to more weight, less rep now that my body has been exposed to the weights for a while. I've read in here that I should be doing 4-6 reps? What % of my max should I be aiming for? thanks