Need recovery advice post PCT

[jerome simpson]

Summary of this post ? After PCT, I feel like shit and have low T.

Background ? 34, 5?9? 190 lbs. I have 3 previous cycles under my belt, and came off of a Test/Mast/Var cycle 6.5 weeks ago. I was using mast p (500/wk) and different esters of test (4-500/week), using test e last used 8 weeks ago, and keeping on test p (lower dosages ramping up accounting for E half life time) for 10 days after that. I was using HCG the last 2 weeks, bumping it up to 1000ui every other day at the end. Three days after last shot (last HCG day), I started PCT with:

Clomid 40mg/day
Osta 25mg/day (for first 3 weeks then ran out)
Aromasin 12.5 e3d
Unleashed/Post Cycle
DAA 3 grams per day

This went on for 4 weeks. I was totally fine during my PCT, actually kept up strength, but two weeks ago after I ended PCT I started noticing I was lagging. Strength was a bit down, but recovery was horrible. A workout from last Tuesday (over 5 weeks from last test P shot) kept me sore for 4 days. I?ve been consciously eating well and only lost 5 lbs of water after cycle. Currently at 188-190.

I had blood work taken right after this at 6 weeks, and my Test levels were 228. LH 2.0, FSH 2.0, Est 21.3. This confirmed what I was thinking. So obviously my PCT wasn?t long enough, and I immediately ordered AXIS LABS Hypertest (should be here today), and started taking 25mg/day of clomid again.

I also have 2 bottles of S4. Should I hop on this? Or should I just try to get my natural T up and not take S4 as it might suppress? I have half a mind just to jump right back on cycle. Any other thoughts or advice is appreciated.

 

[XYZ]

If you weren't starting to recover your LH and FSH would be about less than 1. Your e2 is also VERY low. Clomid right now would be fine.

I would try and recover, if it becomes unbearable then maybe consider some AM dbol and then try it again in a few weeks.

 

[jerome simpson]

If you weren't starting to recover your LH and FSH would be about less than 1. Your e2 is also VERY low. Clomid right now would be fine.

I would try and recover, if it becomes unbearable then maybe consider some AM dbol and then try it again in a few weeks.

Thanks for the response. The E is 21pg/ml, the listed range for normal is 7.6 to 42. I've been up to 82 on a cycle when i didn't use an AI, and was getting itchy nips. You think i should be concerned about 21?

I don't have dbol, but i have a bit of var left, and that S4 sarm. I am worried about taking anything that would delay recovery, but low dose var or s4 would offer a quick solution. Thoughts?

 

[XYZ]

Thanks for the response. The E is 21pg/ml, the listed range for normal is 7.6 to 42. I've been up to 82 on a cycle when i didn't use an AI, and was getting itchy nips. You think i should be concerned about 21?

I don't have dbol, but i have a bit of var left, and that S4 sarm. I am worried about taking anything that would delay recovery, but low dose var or s4 would offer a quick solution. Thoughts?

ANY DOSE of aas will delay recovery.

Sorry, I mis-spoke about the E2, I didn't remember the ref. range.

 

[jerome simpson]

no worries, i get confused myself as there are different testing units depending on who is testing. This is the standard Lab Corp test.

I just downed some of the Hypertest as it came today. Another board is telling me to take Phytoserms 347 for another PCT run. I'm sure it would help but that's a lot of coin. Plus i've been annoyed that all they do is recommend their sponsored products so i have a hard time believing their product recommendations are in my best interest. It's like talking about other products is forbidden. Actually, it kind of is.

So AM Dbol? I just read about it, interesting theory. Do you think this could be done with low does anavar as well? I have some on hand.

 

[XYZ]

no worries, i get confused myself as there are different testing units depending on who is testing. This is the standard Lab Corp test.

I just downed some of the Hypertest as it came today. Another board is telling me to take Phytoserms 347 for another PCT run. I'm sure it would help but that's a lot of coin. Plus i've been annoyed that all they do is recommend their sponsored products so i have a hard time believing their product recommendations are in my best interest. It's like talking about other products is forbidden. Actually, it kind of is.

So AM Dbol? I just read about it, interesting theory. Do you think this could be done with low does anavar as well? I have some on hand.

Dbol is used because of the short half life and there is a minimal amount of recovery time per day. Anavar doesn't work the same.

I would just run another full PCT and then see where you are with labs. Taking more stuff will just delay everything.