New Plan/Nikegurl's CKD

[nikegurl]

ok everyone. i have a day off work tomorrow and i don't have a computer at home so that means i won't be updating until Monday.

it does NOT mean that i'm off eating bread or slacking again. (usually if i don't update that IS what it means more or less)

i'm following through this time.

see ya Monday! (happy weekend to all)

 

[Rissole]

Originally posted by nikegurl
i'm following through this time.

Make sure you clean up the mess when your done
Sorry NG.. have a great weekend

 

[david]

Originally posted by nikegurl
ok everyone. i have a day off work tomorrow and i don't have a computer at home so that means i won't be updating until Monday.

it does NOT mean that i'm off eating bread or slacking again. (usually if i don't update that IS what it means more or less)

i'm following through this time.

see ya Monday! (happy weekend to all)

Darn it! I missed you online! Funny that you have tomorrow off as well as I.

Well, see you when I get back and I'm sure you're relaxing unlike I! I wouldn't know what "relaxing" means anymore!

I'm posting this because it's the thought that counts! Thank you for your kind words as always in my journal, NG!

 

[nikegurl]

thanks David. you just made my day 4 days after you posted.



ok...i may have screwed up and i'm not even sure.

days 1-4 on my ckd i felt great.
late in the day on day 5 i started to really struggle. i did feel a little "fuzzy" and out of it (which i know can be expected). i was also suddenly obsessed with thoughts of carbs.

no joke. on day 4 i was cool. on day 5 i could not keep my mind from wandering to thoughts of carbs and even carbs i don't like.

but i stuck to my meal plans.

day 6 i felt actually weak. the ckd plan i put together with help of some experts told me to go 2 weeks before my first refeed and there i was melting down on day 6.

so...i ate carbs. i didn't pig out but i did eat carbs for 2 meals saturday and one of them i ate a lot of carbs. good ones: oats, yams and fiber one cereal. (but a lot)

i didn't feel bloated or sick after. i felt sane and physically better.

so i'm not sure if i "listened to my body" or cracked under pressure and wussed out.

i just know that i couldn't make it past day 6. days 1-4 were remarkably painless. i was in ketosis by early day 3 so that was cool. (maybe even on day 2 but i didn't check 'til day 3)

i think now my plan is to keep going with the ckd and refeed weekly (i'm just going to forget about going 2 weeks the first time b/c i don't believe i can make it...) does that sound ok?

 

[Jodi]

I would have never gone the 2 weeks either. I didn't, I did my refeeds right after the first week. You didn't mess up by far.

 

[nikegurl]

oh - and there was a heaping spoon of cherry pie filling i forgot to mention. but that's everything.

jodi - do you happen to recall at all how longer after your refeeds it took you to get back into ketosis?

thanks!

 

[Jodi]

About 2 days

 

[nikegurl]

may as well confess before the sin....i'm eating on thanksgiving. low fat/high fat/low carb/high carb....all of it.

then i'll go back to my ckd and wait a week before carb up and stick to it 'til xmas day.

then i'm eating again. that's how it's gonna be.

 

[Jodi]

I'd have to punch you in the face when we meet if you didn't cheat on Thanksgiving

 

[nikegurl]

ahhh thanks. now i don't have to feel as bad. i won't be a huge piglet but i'm eating up. hope yours is wonderful!

 

[Jodi]

Hell no, its a Free For ALL!!!!!

You too NG Happy Dessert Day ummmm..............I mean Happy Turkey Day

 

[nikegurl]

i'm back......

very very bad eating Thanksgiving thru Monday. Yep, I said Monday. 5 damn days.

at least the food is finally gone.

 

[Jodi]

 

[Leslie]

 

[nikegurl]

 

[hardasnails1973]

if add in 250 mgs ALA or 100 mgs R ala with your carb meals and make sure they do not get stored as fat. This really helps on carb loads !!

 

[Rissole]

Tricks for every occasion eh Han??

 

[hardasnails1973]

A got a bag full of them ....

 

[Rissole]

Come on NG... you can do it...

 

[nikegurl]

thanks rissole! helps

yep - i've got the ala and i take 300 mg a day regular days and 1200 on my carb up day.

thanks for checking on me.

 

[Rissole]

No prob, your end pics are gonna be more important than your mids, i wanna see your end pics
<--- Me givin you a wolf wistle

 

[nikegurl]

if i promise to make them good can you influence people to get me excused from the mid pictures? i'm not gonna be ready....

 

[Rissole]

No way sweetie.... you'll look fine

 

[nikegurl]

having a problem with my ckd. (and it isn't that i'm still cheating from thanksgiving lol)

i think that this much fat doesn't agree with me. it was fun at first but i feel sort of nauseous all the time now and having other stomach "issues" that have led me to believe it is the fat.

not sure what to do b/c i really really wanted the freedom of the low fat carb ups (visions of low fat waffles, rice krispies and baked lays will be hard to let go not to mention the great recipes from jodi)

i don't know what i'll do from here. guess i may recyle an old dpw8 eating plan. super restricted but it worked. i so wanted those weekly carb ups....

pretty sure if i drop the fat much it won't qualify as ckd anymore though.

 

[Leslie]

How much fat are you taking in each meal?
what forms?

 

[nikegurl]

i've done the same thing everday pretty much:

MEAL 1
2 eggs
2 slices bacon
1 slice monterey jack cheese
2 fish oil caps

MEAL 2
can tuna
Tbs safflower mayo
8 black olives
2 fish oil caps

MEAL 3
4 oz 80% lean ground beef
1 slice Monterey Jack cheese
2 fish oil caps

MEAL 4
chicken spread
2 fish oil caps

MEAL 5
3/4 cup (6 oz) cottage cheese
2 fish oil caps

MEAL 6
1.5 scoops whey
15 g dextrose

TOTALS

1683 calories
149 g protein
102 g fat
18 g carbs **

It's about 18 grams of fat per meal.
Odd b/c I've had 15 grams per meal before (DPw8) and not felt like this before. The bacon just makes me want to hurl lately - same with melted cheese. Maybe it's my fat sources that need to be changed?

It would be so great to finally find an eating plan that makes me feel good, helps me get leaner and allows a bit of wiggle/less strictness on the weekends.

Maybe this can still work if I change my fats some?

 

[Jodi]

Well then get rid of the bacon and cheese and go for better fat choices

 

[nikegurl]

for some reason i'm having a hard time getting my meals up to 18 g fat each.

on meal one can i just up my egg yolks? (but then my protein also goes up and i was told to keep it at my bw and not higher on a ckd. (?) )

 

[Leslie]

NG, On the DPw8 plan one consumes about 12-15g of fat per meal. So its not the amount that is bothering you. I think its the sources. Too much bacon and dairy. Particularly CHEESE

Dairy can cause bathroom issues and you have ALOT of cheese plus cottage cheese. I dont think too much cheese is allowed on the CKD anyway as it contians small amoiunts of milk sugar carbs that can easily add up.

I would use egg yolks and go back to using salad oil like you have in the past.

also 4 oz of 80% beef has ALOT of fat Like 20grams. I would buy at least 90% lean beef and add a lil mayo to it to meet your fat content.

 

[Leslie]

Originally posted by nikegurl
for some reason i'm having a hard time getting my meals up to 18 g fat each.

You got 15g on DPW8 Use 3 fish oil caps to make up the rest.

on meal one can i just up my egg yolks? (but then my protein also goes up and i was told to keep it at my bw and not higher on a ckd. (?) )
The protein count will remain the same as the egg replaces the cheese protein