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[BiggT]

over the last few months i have been cycling prohormones. and they have been working great for me but i want more. i want to explode and im thinking about take steroids. my friend can get anything that i need if i just ask so im wondering is winstrol a good steroid to start with or is there a certain stack i should start with? i am 19 and experienced

 

[tphillip23]

while i think it is optimal to wait until at least 21 before using these compounds, i'm going to save you the lecture as you have already been on prohormones (which these days seem to be as dangerous as the real deal in terms of side effects)
the typical beginner cycle is usually 500mg test E or C every week for 10-12 weeks.
some like to add dbol or tbol for the first 4 weeks until the test kicks in.
winstrol tends to be rough on the joints and is not typically recommended for a first cycle

 

[tphillip23]

dude, you've been working out for 6 months and you've already been "cycling prohormones" AND YOU WANT TO TAKE STEROIDS NOW??????
dude, don't take offense to this, but you are way too dependent on "drugs" to help you gain.
believe it or not, you can get big without these chemicals, and if you never learn how, then you will always think you need them. please get a jug of creatine and protein and work your ass off and EAT and see where that gets you before you start taking any other anabolics.

i am 19 and experienced

what "experience" have you attained in six months that you feel makes you ready for steroids?

if you don't mind, give us your cycle(s) of prohormones that you've taken

 

[BiggT]

when i say 6months thats how long i have been lifting for mass and strength, instead of overall fitness. ive been lifting for somewhere around 2 years total, but over the last 6 months ive put on 50lbs with minimal fat gain.

as far as the ph's ive cycled

i went the first couple months bulking all natural- no supps, just good dieting and my own bulking routine i designed. gained 40lbs

then i started with mass and tren xtreme which i did for one month- gained 10 lbs. pct was showdown which is a new testbooster and estroblocker.

cut for one month (last month)- lost 6lbs or so on stanzabol and tren complex

now i am currently taking halo diol and tren complex- only been on for one week- pct will be test complete.

thats the ph's ive used over the last 4 months or so.


stat results from begining to now is roughly this:

(all my lifts are full rep range and proper form, no cheating)
starting bench- i think it was like 205- one rep?
current bench- 285x9

weight-160
current-210

thats just bench cuz i dont feel like listing everything but all other auxillary lifts increased way past expectation.

 

[GSXR750]

How is 6 months experienced? The only thing you need a cycle of is patience.

 

[Pirate!]

i am 19 and experienced
over the last 6 months ive put on 50lbs with minimal fat gain

I recommend lifting natural for a few years. You need more experience with proper diet and lifting.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

when i say 6months thats how long i have been lifting for mass and strength, instead of overall fitness. ive been lifting for somewhere around 2 years total, but over the last 6 months ive put on 50lbs with minimal fat gain.

as far as the ph's ive cycled

i went the first couple months bulking all natural- no supps, just good dieting and my own bulking routine i designed. gained 40lbs

then i started with mass and tren xtreme which i did for one month- gained 10 lbs. pct was showdown which is a new testbooster and estroblocker.

cut for one month (last month)- lost 6lbs or so on stanzabol and tren complex

now i am currently taking halo diol and tren complex- only been on for one week- pct will be test complete.

thats the ph's ive used over the last 4 months or so.


stat results from begining to now is roughly this:

(all my lifts are full rep range and proper form, no cheating)
starting bench- i think it was like 205- one rep?
current bench- 285x9

weight-160
current-210

thats just bench cuz i dont feel like listing everything but all other auxillary lifts increased way past expectation.

you gained 40 pounds in two months?

sure.

 

[rmcfar]

this makes zero sense
you gained 40lbs in three months natural. Then you decided to do a cylce of PH and ended up gaining 10lbs in one month.
im no mathematician but 40lbs in 3 months is 13.3lbs/month

so according to what you have said you gained more when you werent using any sort of "help" then you did when you were cycling

my advise is that you simply go back to using no PH's or anabolics, and apparently you will make some pretty fantastic gains.

 

[BiggT]

its not my fault i have good genetics. im asking a serious question about starting my first steroid cycle, not about my previous gains. forget my question, ill talk to guys at the gym about it seeing as you guys cant give me an answer without critisizing me.

 

[Pirate!]

You did get an answer. The answer is no.

 

[flashpolo7]

over the last few months i have been cycling prohormones. and they have been working great for me but i want more. i want to explode and im thinking about take steroids. my friend can get anything that i need if i just ask so im wondering is winstrol a good steroid to start with or is there a certain stack i should start with? i am 19 and experienced

How do you like the new "Anabolic Tren Complex"? what results are you getting?

 

[Chevrolet]

he doesnt want our real answer, he wants to hear that he is awesome genetically and ready for juicing!!!

your not ready kid.

 

[jwalk127]

you may ask the guys at the gym but if they have a damn clue what they are talking about they will tell you the same things, people are just looking out for your well being..but its your body do what you want..havent posted in a while so thought i add my two cents

 

[jwalk127]

speaking of two cents,... if it is a penny for your thoughts and you put in your two cents worth then isnt someone making a penny somewhere?

 

[Merkaba]

Two bad this was a conversation from over a year ago!

 

[kicka19]

old post, he prob has put on 130lbs of more of pure muscle since he posted this!

 

[mcguin]

its not my fault i have good genetics. im asking a serious question about starting my first steroid cycle, not about my previous gains. forget my question, ill talk to guys at the gym about it seeing as you guys cant give me an answer without critisizing me.

dude your being stupid...go write a book! You're totally gambling with your health!

 

[Slowlearner]

Tren complex and test

I am a 41 year old lost 3/4 of my right tricep in a car accident a few years ago. Have been active in weight room for 20 years, making no gains. Spoke with a buddy who has done 2 cycles of tren and test. He recommended I try. Wanted to do research before trying. Can anyone help? Will take at low levels. Should test be taken as PCT or at same time as tren to lower side effects?