newbie, on trt and wanna cycle

[bamafan11]

Hey. I'm 31 and have just gotten put on trt.
The Dr has dialed in my test amount, 200 every 10 days.
I have a few questions
If I were to cycle and just wanted to run test at 600 per week how would the pct look? Or would I not need one? Would I just do the cycle then get back on the trt dosage?
I have done oral cycles before but before the trt and always had a serm and ai, would those still be needed?
Any info would be useful. And tips
I'm sure the liver care and organ supports would still needed, right.
5 10
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[jas101]

If your in trt no need for pct. Just blast and cruise. 12 weeks on and then back to trt dose.

 

[jsmith1980]

Yeah your days of pct are over. Blast and cruise. Just curious, what were your test levels before try?

 

[jsmith1980]

Before trt. Stupid auto correct.

 

[heckler7]

what are you asking?

 

[Darth]

I went from TRT to cycling. I figured I was already part way there so why not? Considerations are a bit different as you get older. As has been mentioned there is no need for PCT as PCT is meant to recover your normal test levels. In your case, there is nothing worth recovering so to speak. I am curious at 31 that going on TRT is a pretty much lifetime regimen. Did you explore other options? The studies on long term TRT and fertility don't seem to be really persuasive one way or another, but is that a consideration for you?

Anyway, if you want to join the TRT/cycle crowd join the club. It is kinda nice... The only real difference to others is PCT, but all on cycle support is the same so AIs, health/liver supps, diet, are the same. If you have easy access to proviron it is a nice addition to any cycle and good for newbies. I am not a real fan of orals as a whole as many are really crap for the liver. Proviron is very mild and has good synergistic effects with test. Test at 600 is fine. To be honest, I can only really notice a difference in test when I jump by at least 250mg weekly, so 500 to 600 will not probably make a noticeable difference. It really comes down to timing, ester length, and what strength you have sourced. For example, most test is at 250mg/ml so twice weekly puts you at 500 weekly. I am thinking you have 200mg/ml test and are going to pin three times a week? Oh, continue your AI for the length of the ester. So if you are running test e, run the AI for another week or two after your last shot of the cycle.

 

[bamafan11]

Yea i was at 210. Been around that number since I was 27. Don't know what so my Dr just started treating the symptoms.
Thank you all for the help.
I was able to get some answers reading other threads but wanted to make sure I understood right.

 

[bamafan11]

I am wanting to keep it simple. Just use the test e only. For my first cycle it seems right and easy to do that then learn more for another later.
If I blast for 12 weeks,how long should one cruise for?

 

[dagambd]

Imo at least 10 but closer to 12. Always read time on = time off.

 

[SoCalSwole]

You will still need an AI. Even on the trt dose of 250 a week I would use one. Blast cruise is nice, No lost gains, and you feel like a beast 100% of the time.

 

[jsmith1980]

I'm a newbie to TRT also. I didn't think you had to take an AI when at the lower dose. I asked my Dr about that and he said that it wasn't needed. Now I'm starting to second guess him. I have some arimidex, just haven't been taking it. I also have some liquid nolvadex. Absolutely not wanting bitch tits.

What dose are you at per week. I feel like mine is too low, not really feeling the positive effects yet. It's been about 3 weeks taking test C.

 

[heckler7]

I'm guessing you have a script for cyp, so if it were me I would run something short ester like tren a or test prop and and keep your cyp dose at whats prescribed

 

[bamafan11]

I need to learn more on the esters but I am on 200 pet 10 days. I need to figure out when to stop so I don't have to high of levels.
Every time I get a shot after about 3-4 days I feel like I hit a wall, real tired and no energy. Does that make sense or mean something?

 

[heckler7]

I need to learn more on the esters but I am on 200 pet 10 days. I need to figure out when to stop so I don't have to high of levels.
Every time I get a shot after about 3-4 days I feel like I hit a wall, real tired and no energy. Does that make sense or mean something?

not sure what that is, are you saying 200MG of test

 

[bamafan11]

Yes. 200 MG test per 10 days.

 

[raysd21]

I need to learn more on the esters but I am on 200 pet 10 days. I need to figure out when to stop so I don't have to high of levels.
Every time I get a shot after about 3-4 days I feel like I hit a wall, real tired and no energy. Does that make sense or mean something?

Sounds like test flu to me. Or last weeks shot leveling off and this weeks shot building up....but that doesn't really make sense with a long ester Test. Is it cyp or enth or Iso? All you need for Test cycle is 500iu HCG a week maybe to keep the boys nice and big. And some AI. That's it.