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I just started my blast of test c and tren e two weeks ago and kinda already getting sensitive nipples. I have ran tren a number of time with little to no nipple issues, if I did it was minor and at the end of my cycle. This is the reason I do not have anything to combat the nipple issues, never needed it. So, now I think I should consider adding something, just not sure what. Any advice would be great. Props to RC btw. Such a obviously quality product. Could tell the difference even after the first pin.
 
Arimidex and caber My nippes started fuckin with me about a week ago. 1mg ED for 3 days knocked it right out. Now I stay on .5 eod just so I don't get nice A cups. haha
 
I have some arimidex, but haven't taken it because of the estrogen blocking ability of tren, I didn't want to lower my estrogen too much. Is that not the case? I have heard about caber, not sure how to obtain it yet. What does that do for you? Thx for feedback.
 
I got tricked too I thought was going to some see some good old hard nips.... Just slap some bandaid on them bro you be alright. Estrogen why would you want to keep it up? I know some studies say bone loss but for a cycle I dont think you really could affect your bones. Well it does affect sex drive but i think most of us on here the sex drive is so high we would hump a tree if it had a nice rack.
 
tren lowers estrogen? who told you this? It doesn't convert to estrogen, but its not an a.e.

clear evidence of tren induced alzheimers going on here. id recommend you use your ai...like now.
 
Tren doesn't lower estrogen. I don't have problems with Tren converting to estrogen in a physical sense. But there are issues with the mental side of estrogen for me. I would take it for the mood swings. I get angry when my estro is high. I've learned that. Physically I am fine. You need to keep your E in check regardless.
 
Question...How have you run tren several times but have never ran test? It sounds like you have no experience with test in the past which leads me to believe you have not tried it before. Otherwise you would know what to expect when you put it in your body.

Just makes sense to have an idea of how to handle the sides with each compound and have some experience with what each one does. Not knocking you, or anything just a red flag in my book.
 
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Nothing wrong with those nipples.
 
I have some arimidex, but haven't taken it because of the estrogen blocking ability of tren, I didn't want to lower my estrogen too much. Is that not the case? I have heard about caber, not sure how to obtain it yet. What does that do for you? Thx for feedback.
Estrogen blocking ability. ....really now. If anything bro, tren shuts you down completely and converts all test to estrogen. A lot of people run lower doses of test because sides are a bitch .
 
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my nipples are fucked any one know were I can get new ones lol.....if u get gyno and a lump u have to deal with it! or get it cut out by a surgeon something I am wanting to do.., you can get them to take the whole gland out
 
why has no one mentioned prolactin u need a a.I when on test periods dosages are user dependant, and u need something to block prolactin sides from the tren carber or pramiplexole this is why I wont run tren again until I have prolactin inhibitors ready before I start!
 
I wrote a quick article on progesterone and prolactin. This is all I could think of at the moment but feel free to question and hopefully we can get a discussion going that will flesh this out. No cliffs -- you actually have to read it -- it is not that long.

There is much confusion, conjecture and bro?lore surrounding prolactin and progesterone and how to control them to avoid gynecomastia, loss of libido and shutdown. A lot of confusion surrounds the misconception that these two hormones are one in the same. They are, in fact, two totally different hormones, with two totally different mechanisms of action and totally different effect profiles in the body.

Prolactin is a peptide hormone of 199 amino acids that is similar in structure to growth hormone. Prolactin is produced in the anterior pituitary in cells called lactotropes. Prolactin is secreted in an episodic fashion throughout the day. Its secretion is inhibited by dopamine and stimulated by estrogen, stress, TRH, and other factors such as suckling and nipple manipulation. Prolactin acts through prolactin receptors present on the surface of cells. In the human, these receptors are stimulated by GH and prolactin with equal potency. Prolactin initiates and maintains lactation in the estrogen primed breast. Prolactin is not a growth factor in breast tissue which is why it is necessary for breast tissue to be primed by the growth promoting action of estrogen in order for prolactin to exert its effects. Even so, lactation is prevented in the presence of high levels of estrogen and progesterone, such as those that exist in pregnancy, and lactation only proceeds with a drop in estrogen/progesterone levels post delivery. Prolactin inhibits gonadotropin secretion and therefore suppresses the hypothalamic pituitary gonadal axis and the production of testosterone.

Progesterone is a steroid hormone that binds to intracellular progesterone receptors that act in the nucleus of cells. Progesterone is produced in males by the adrenal glands and males have the same plasma level of progesterone as women d o during the follicular phase of the menstrual cycle. There are actually two progesterone receptors. A functional receptor and a nonfunctional receptor that acts to suppress the activity of the functional receptor. Progesterone antagonizes the effect of estrogen by reducing estrogen receptor levels. This is exemplified by the use of progestins to fight estrogen responsive breast cancer. Progesterone has a potent suppressive effect on gonadotropin secretion and has been used as a contraceptive agent in men.

There is no evidence that controlling prolactin will prevent or treat gynecomastia. Many of the issues that are being attributed to prolactin can be explained through other mechanisms. While reducing prolactin may help with reduced libido and shutdown due to AAS, the potential risks involved with using dopaminergics to reduce prolactin levels probably outweighs the benefits. If estrogen is controlled during a cycle, then prolactin is unlikely to be elevated and unlikely to cause a problem.


An interesting read I came across while doing some research.
Through my years of research I have came across many vets who have always said people blow certain tren sides way of proportion. Mainly being prolactin sides.
Many, that I can recall, have always said, keep a good AI on hand and USE it and you'll be fine.
Any input on this article ?
 
@ jimm and woe. Thank you giving some direction. My concern was prolactin. Yes, I have ran test before and currently on TRT. In regards to the estrogen blocking properties of tren, I gave read a number of post in this forum and sticky that mentioned tren not bumping up ur estrogen. I may have miss quoted. Is so, my bad. What is a typical dose of caber?
 
.5 eod. ...
and you're right. There's a difference between estrogen conversion and blocking estrogen like mast, or Proviron will do. Read more carefully what you wrote. There's a difference
 
I wrote a quick article on progesterone and prolactin. This is all I could think of at the moment but feel free to question and hopefully we can get a discussion going that will flesh this out. No cliffs -- you actually have to read it -- it is not that long.

There is much confusion, conjecture and bro?lore surrounding prolactin and progesterone and how to control them to avoid gynecomastia, loss of libido and shutdown. A lot of confusion surrounds the misconception that these two hormones are one in the same. They are, in fact, two totally different hormones, with two totally different mechanisms of action and totally different effect profiles in the body.

Prolactin is a peptide hormone of 199 amino acids that is similar in structure to growth hormone. Prolactin is produced in the anterior pituitary in cells called lactotropes. Prolactin is secreted in an episodic fashion throughout the day. Its secretion is inhibited by dopamine and stimulated by estrogen, stress, TRH, and other factors such as suckling and nipple manipulation. Prolactin acts through prolactin receptors present on the surface of cells. In the human, these receptors are stimulated by GH and prolactin with equal potency. Prolactin initiates and maintains lactation in the estrogen primed breast. Prolactin is not a growth factor in breast tissue which is why it is necessary for breast tissue to be primed by the growth promoting action of estrogen in order for prolactin to exert its effects. Even so, lactation is prevented in the presence of high levels of estrogen and progesterone, such as those that exist in pregnancy, and lactation only proceeds with a drop in estrogen/progesterone levels post delivery. Prolactin inhibits gonadotropin secretion and therefore suppresses the hypothalamic pituitary gonadal axis and the production of testosterone.

Progesterone is a steroid hormone that binds to intracellular progesterone receptors that act in the nucleus of cells. Progesterone is produced in males by the adrenal glands and males have the same plasma level of progesterone as women d o during the follicular phase of the menstrual cycle. There are actually two progesterone receptors. A functional receptor and a nonfunctional receptor that acts to suppress the activity of the functional receptor. Progesterone antagonizes the effect of estrogen by reducing estrogen receptor levels. This is exemplified by the use of progestins to fight estrogen responsive breast cancer. Progesterone has a potent suppressive effect on gonadotropin secretion and has been used as a contraceptive agent in men.

There is no evidence that controlling prolactin will prevent or treat gynecomastia. Many of the issues that are being attributed to prolactin can be explained through other mechanisms. While reducing prolactin may help with reduced libido and shutdown due to AAS, the potential risks involved with using dopaminergics to reduce prolactin levels probably outweighs the benefits. If estrogen is controlled during a cycle, then prolactin is unlikely to be elevated and unlikely to cause a problem.


An interesting read I came across while doing some research.
Through my years of research I have came across many vets who have always said people blow certain tren sides way of proportion. Mainly being prolactin sides.
Many, that I can recall, have always said, keep a good AI on hand and USE it and you'll be fine.
Any input on this article ?

Interesting because guys with some experience with tren will tell you that as long as you control the estrogen there is no need for prolactin inhibitors. Prolactin without estrogen won't do anything. I used to run tren cycles along with caber. I read something similar to the above and decided to experiment with not taking it, and wouldn't you know it it made no difference. If you are experienced with managing your estrogen with proper administration of AI's then there is no need for prami or caber for the sole reason of blocking prolactin.

They each have some interesting sides that are fun. I would love to get my hands on some legit caber that shit made me screw like a porn star. Prami also has some nice GH boosting effect. It's a bitch to get used to though.

But great read thanks for posting it. Nice to see that sometimes Bro science gets lucky and actually makes sense.
 
Interesting because guys with some experience with tren will tell you that as long as you control the estrogen there is no need for prolactin inhibitors. Prolactin without estrogen won't do anything. I used to run tren cycles along with caber. I read something similar to the above and decided to experiment with not taking it, and wouldn't you know it it made no difference. If you are experienced with managing your estrogen with proper administration of AI's then there is no need for prami or caber for the sole reason of blocking prolactin.

They each have some interesting sides that are fun. I would love to get my hands on some legit caber that shit made me screw like a porn star. Prami also has some nice GH boosting effect. It's a bitch to get used to though.

But great read thanks for posting it. Nice to see that sometimes Bro science gets lucky and actually makes sense.
If you remember reading that, that last paragraph literally states, that there should be no reason to use prolactin inhibitor if your estrogen is controlled.
 
Prami makes me incredibly sick. No Bueno
 
Prami makes me incredibly sick. No Bueno

If you can get used to it. It actually is pretty good shit. Boosts GH and you still get the positive sexual side effects.

You have to dose it like non existent the first week like .10 of a ML or less. then work your way up little by little each week to 15mg. But yea I was stupid when I first got it and went for .5ml first dose I was sick with flu like symptoms for 2 days. not good.
 
Well....I was part of the whole MJR debacle when their caber was "mislabeled" and was apparently prami. Idk how much was in the capsule but it was supposed to be .5 caber. I've never quite felt like I was gonna die like I did that night man. It was pretty bad. Felt like I was gonna go into a mass seizure.
 
Well....I was part of the whole MJR debacle when their caber was "mislabeled" and was apparently prami. Idk how much was in the capsule but it was supposed to be .5 caber. I've never quite felt like I was gonna die like I did that night man. It was pretty bad. Felt like I was gonna go into a mass seizure.

Yikes that's scary! Someone should get a beating for that.
 
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