ok...heres my cycle.. dbol and test e

[ant is lifting]

After doing some research and finding a source im scraping my old plan and plan on doing this as a cycle..


weeks 1-5 30 mg of dbol per day
weeks 1-10 400-500 mg of TEST E per week
nolva therapy starts 14 days after last injection
weeks1-2 40 mgs a day
weeks3-4 20 mgs a day


I am 30 years old, 6"8 , 296 lbs and am at about 14% bf..

I should have my supplies shortly and am hoping this is a good program. I was called stupid for my other program so Im hoping I have made some improvement as this is the program I plan to follow.....


I consider this to be my first ever cycle...
whatcha think?

 

[kicka19]

After doing some research and finding a source im scraping my old plan and plan on doing this as a cycle..


weeks 1-5 30 mg of dbol per day
weeks 1-10 400-500 mg of TEST E per week
nolva therapy starts 14 days after last injection
weeks1-2 40 mgs a day
weeks3-4 20 mgs a day


I am 30 years old, 6"8 , 296 lbs and am at about 14% bf..

I should have my supplies shortly and am hoping this is a good program. I was called stupid for my other program so Im hoping I have made some improvement as this is the program I plan to follow.....


I consider this to be my first ever cycle...
whatcha think?

i think it looks good, at 6'8" and 300 lbs i would imagine you should be doing more gear than that tho, wait till some vets get on but at your size i think your body will need more gear

 

[Tough Old Man]

Size will have nothing to do with it. If this is your first cycle, 500 Mgs / ew and the d-bol is fine.

 

[kicka19]

Size will have nothing to do with it. If this is your first cycle, 500 Mgs / ew and the d-bol is fine.

how will size have nothing to do with it? how can someone who is 150lbs take the same amount of test as some1 with 300lbs to support? It doesnt make any sence, teh percentage of gear to body mass is not the same and therefore the effect cant be the same

 

[MASS]

I think at some point body weight might matter a little but for it being his first cycle and the gear he wants to use, he should be fine.

 

[ant is lifting]

also, since it is my first cycle I dont want to over do it....Im not trying to become the HULK or anything although I slightly resemble the hulk now...LOL

 

[doeslayer]

Even with that weight, the fact that he is adding dbol and it is his first cycle makes me think it would be good enough.

 

[ant is lifting]

I have a related question about the dbol... Knowing that ill be taking 30 mg a day, do I want to take 10mg every 8 hours exacly or follow a schedule of like 9 am , 2 pm and 7 pm?

I generally work out between 5-7 pm

your help is appreceated...

 

[ag-guys]

After doing some research and finding a source im scraping my old plan and plan on doing this as a cycle..


weeks 1-5 30 mg of dbol per day
weeks 1-10 400-500 mg of TEST E per week
nolva therapy starts 14 days after last injection
weeks1-2 40 mgs a day
weeks3-4 20 mgs a day


I am 30 years old, 6"8 , 296 lbs and am at about 14% bf..

I should have my supplies shortly and am hoping this is a good program. I was called stupid for my other program so Im hoping I have made some improvement as this is the program I plan to follow.....


I consider this to be my first ever cycle...
whatcha think?

Should be fine. Only one way to find out.

AG
www.ag-guys.com

 

[Pirate!]

do I want to take 10mg every 8 hours exacly or follow a schedule of like 9 am , 2 pm and 7 pm?

Either is fine.

I recommend using HCG and an aromatase inhibitor on cycle. Also, I'd start pct a week earlier and run it for 5 weeks. Better safe than...

 

[Tha Don]

I have a related question about the dbol... Knowing that ill be taking 30 mg a day, do I want to take 10mg every 8 hours exacly or follow a schedule of like 9 am , 2 pm and 7 pm?

I generally work out between 5-7 pm

your help is appreceated...

you'd be better off using 6 x 5mg doses per day, dbol has a short active half-life of around 3-4 hrs, so 3 x 10mg doses per day isn't really ideal

 

[noomais]

Either is fine.

I recommend using HCG and an aromatase inhibitor on cycle. Also, I'd start pct a week earlier and run it for 5 weeks. Better safe than...

hi...not that i am trying to hijack someone's else's thread....i am going to be doing the exact same cycle...can you please explain what you mean by "I recommend using HCG and an aromatase inhibitor on cycle"?
thanks

 

[Pirate!]

hi...not that i am trying to hijack someone's else's thread....i am going to be doing the exact same cycle...can you please explain what you mean by "I recommend using HCG and an aromatase inhibitor on cycle"?
thanks

An aromatase inhibitor reduces the amount of estrogen your body produces. Dbol causes a considerable increase in estrogen, especially estrodiol. Excessive estrogen leads to unwanted sides, such as bloating, gynomastia, and increased blood pressure. HCG keeps your nuts active, so they are better prepared to respond to LH when your body begins producing it again post cycle.

 

[ant is lifting]

So my question would still be take the dbol evenly throughout 24 hours or just during the day?

Also at basicly 300 lbs should I expect to gain some weight or just change the compisition of my body during my fore-mentioned cycle?

 

[ant is lifting]

also, Im going to get my pins today. will 3- cc's, 22 gauge 1 1/2 inch be good or do I want somthing different??

 

[kicka19]

also, Im going to get my pins today. will 3- cc's, 22 gauge 1 1/2 inch be good or do I want somthing different??

should be fine, 22g is pretty big compared to what most people use but you should have no problem, most people stay around 25

 

[Tha Don]

should be fine, 22g is pretty big compared to what most people use but you should have no problem, most people stay around 25

my first cycle i used greens (21's) in the arse, no problems, however last cycle i went mainly with blues (23's) in the thighs and it was a much nicer shot (lot less scarring, easier to administer etc..), i think 23's are ideal for oil based compounds TBH, 25's maybe, i've got some but haven't tried them yet, i've heard they can be difficult to push the oil through

 

[musclepump]

First cycle just use test.

 

[kicka19]

my first cycle i used greens (21's) in the arse, no problems, however last cycle i went mainly with blues (23's) in the thighs and it was a much nicer shot (lot less scarring, easier to administer etc..), i think 23's are ideal for oil based compounds TBH, 25's maybe, i've got some but haven't tried them yet, i've heard they can be difficult to push the oil through

25s are easy to get through the skin, but its a bitch to load and to shoot, im probably gona try 23s next cycle and get a few larger gauge like 20s to draw and just swap. 25s are the least amount of pain which is key for the first cycle ussualy

 

[kraziplaya]

i like the painlessness of 25s... but it takes forever to shoot...
23s seem to be the perfect gauge... imo

 

[BigPapaPump68]

what does a 20g feel like, I usually use 22 or 23

 

[ant is lifting]

ok I think I got that part(pins) cleared up... However no one has given me an opinion on my other questions...

putting the mg aside,(lets use 15 mg, 3 5's as an example) would it be better to take 1 5mg every 8 hours like clockwork OR say 10 am, 3 pm and 8 pm..??!!??


thank you in advance...


P.s. I found this exert from an article regarding this oral compound..


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The half-life of Dianabol is only about 3 to 4 hours, a relatively short time. This means that a single daily dosage schedule will produce a varying blood level, with ups and downs throughout the day. The user likewise has a choice, to either split up the tablets during the day or to take them all at one time. The usual recommendation has been to divide them and try to regulate the concentration in your blood. This however, will produce a lower peak blood level than if the tablets were taken all at once, so there may be a trade off with this option. The steroid researcher Bill Roberts also points out that a single-episode dosing schedule should have a less dramatic impact on the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, as there is a sufficient period each day where steroid hormone levels are not extremely exaggerated. I tend to doubt hormonal stability can be maintained during such a cycle however, but do notice that anecdotal evidence often still supports single daily doses to be better for overall results. Perhaps this is the better option. Since we know the blood concentration will peak about 1.5 to 3 hours after administration, we may further wonder the best time to take our tablets. It seems logical that taking the pills earlier in the day, preferably some time before training, would be optimal. This would allow a considerable number of daytime hours for an androgen rich metabolism to heighten the uptake of nutrients, especially the critical hours following training.
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[ant is lifting]

ok, I will have my dbol today, but wont have my test e for about another week-10 days... should I just start taking the dbol tomorrow or wait until the test e gets here?

 

[ant is lifting]

WELL, IM ALL DONE AND I MUST SAY WOW, IMA FREAKING BRICK HOUSE!!!!! I just got done with my nolva and cycle... I went from 296 lbs to 321 lbs at my peak, I have come back down to 315 lbs now and am holding this weight steady for a little over 2 weeks now give or take a pound or so. I didn't really have any issues other than high BP, 143/95 and at times made me think my heart was going to explode. Now im back to around 105 / 80 or so. Although I put on some weight it seems to be mostly muscle as I actually look thinner in my waist line and lost 2 inches on my waste(down to a 40 from 42)... I generally here ppl say "dam your huge", but lately its been "holy shit man you a body builder?". so ya, I am definalty happy with the results.. about 2 weeks after my last shot I DID feel a little depressed and lathargic but have recovered. Also I think my balls have fully re-inflated now lol.. anyways, im so happy with the results but plan on waiting a long time before considering another cycle however I do expect to do some more cardio now as during the cycle cardio made my heart race more than usual... anyways, thanks to all!!!!!