OMG i dont believe it.

[BabsieGirl]

I never said a person cannot increase their bodyweight naturally. I said, certain people cannot. Not all. Certain!

Your first paragraph is true however, for some people it may not work that way. My husband for example. 3 of my male friends and 2 of my female friends.

I'm not saying you don't know what you're talking about. I'm speaking from experience. Not of myself...but from friends, and family.

 

[Mudge]

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
Diet and metabolism always come into play. I never once said it didn't!

Umm, read the below, carefully.

if you are a skinny person and you've tried EVERYTHING, to put on weight.........including, eating more.......taking weight gainer....etc.......NOTHING WILL WORK!!!!!!

It is impossible not to gain weight by increasing your dietary intake, unless an increase in activity also occurs at the same time. You are saying quite openly, that if a person goes from 3,000 calories to 6,000 calories it is possible that nothing will happen.

And along with this should I announce that I fart golden eggs?

Who do I hear these kind of comments from. Well I usually hear it from people who say "gee I eat 3 servings of Golden Grams for breakfast, and I have 5 egg whites and 2 slices of toast for lunch, and I eat a big dinner my mommy makes me every night. I still can't seem to gain weight and I'm eating like a madman, what do I do?"

Ask this person how many calories they eat or what their macro breakdown is and they wont have a clue what to tell you, other than perhaps "well it must be like alot man" or "maybe like 3500 I am not sure, but its close I bet," not very scientific.

Count your calories, add on 1,000 to that daily total and if you dont gain weight then I highly question your ability to use a calculator. If you live nearby me I will coach you myself, and I will watch you eat some of your meals to make sure you aren't shitting me when you say you eat five 1,000 calorie meals a day.

 

[Mudge]

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
I never said a person cannot increase their bodyweight naturally. I said, certain people cannot. Not all. Certain!

Impossible, scientifically.

If said "uber metabolism skinny boy" has a natural body temperature of 99.5 and adds 1,000-2,000 calories on top of his diet, you are saying that their body temperature will adjust all by itself and those nutrients just get spent.

I want to see some proof of this. This means diet logs, and weight logs. Not random "I eat a bunch mister, really I do!"

I can point to multiple 130 pound males who have put on an easy 50 pounds or more naturally, just by digging through members pics sections on your favorite boards.

 

[BabsieGirl]

Originally posted by Mudge
It is impossible not to gain weight by increasing your dietary intake, unless an increase in activity also occurs at the same time. You are saying quite openly, that if a person goes from 3,000 calories to 6,000 calories it is possible that nothing will happen.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. And what you're saying makes complete sense. My husband for example (who sits on his arse all day) is eating well over 6,000 calories. Eats like he has a tape worm. He doesn't put on any weight! Period.

And along with this should I announce that I fart golden eggs?

Who do I hear these kind of comments from. Well I usually hear it from people who say "gee I eat 3 servings of Golden Grams for breakfast, and I have 5 egg whites and 2 slices of toast for lunch, and I eat a big dinner my mommy makes me every night. I still can't seem to gain weight and I'm eating like a madman, what do I do?"

Ask this person how many calories they eat or what their macro breakdown is and they wont have a clue what to tell you, other than perhaps "well it must be like alot man" or "maybe like 3500 I am not sure, but its close I bet," not very scientific.

Not at all scientific

Count your calories, add on 1,000 to that daily total and if you dont gain weight then I highly question your ability to use a calculator. If you live nearby me I will coach you myself, and I will watch you eat some of your meals to make sure you aren't shitting me when you say you eat five 1,000 calorie meals a day.

If I could package my husband over to you, believe me, I would! Tomorrow I'll bring you in his meal plan. Maybe something needs to switch up a bit.

 

[165r]

easy kids

 

[instant]

at one point in my training career I ate 5500 cals a day over 5 months and didn't gain a pound. Scientfic or not I know from personal experience what babs means and I've seen other people that do the same.

 

[PreMier]

How much do you weigh?

Because if you eat, you WILL grow. Period.

 

[Mudge]

Originally posted by instant
at one point in my training career I ate 5500 cals a day over 5 months and didn't gain a pound. Scientfic or not I know from personal experience what babs means and I've seen other people that do the same.

I would be very curious to witness such a thing.

 

[instant]

I would be very curious to see someone put on 25 pounds of lean muscle from a weight gainer...

anyone else want to see anything cool?

 

[instant]

btw. the more I seem to eat the harder my metabolism seems to work - I am a very active person so I'm sure that helps alot. I doubt I've ever been above 8%bf - I actually enjoy it; my weight comes very slow but it is usually all muscle.

 

[PreMier]

instant-- How much do you weigh?!?! Because 5500cals is a shitload!

 

[Mudge]

For a lightweight it is, I'm actually having a hard time staying under 5k right now

 

[PreMier]

Yea. But somehow I doubt instant is over 250Lbs. And eating that many cals at under that weight will add mass. I dont care what anyone says!

 

[Power Rabbit]

With just a Ph cycle to up my protien synthesis...i was able to take my macros to 5500 a day before I started to see noticeable fat gain...and its really not that noticable, so Im keeping that a my bulking macro till my cycle is over...so I (at 210ish) can eat mid in the mid 5000's

 

[PreMier]

Lemme guess... You do cardio while bulking too?

 

[Power Rabbit]

Originally posted by PreMier
Lemme guess... You do cardio while bulking too?

You guessed wrong son...

 

[instant]

when I was eating 5k I was cardioing - I droped to 4k without cardio and I am under 150 pounds. I've never meet anyone with my metabolism but I guess it makes me the best at something.

 

[PreMier]

Originally posted by Power Rabbit
You guessed wrong son...

Your not old enough to call me son. Even though it was meant to belittle.

 

[PreMier]

Originally posted by instant
when I was eating 5k I was cardioing - I droped to 4k without cardio and I am under 150 pounds. I've never meet anyone with my metabolism but I guess it makes me the best at something.

Sorry, I just cant believe that you weigh under 150 and ate 5500cals without gaining a bunch of weight. Near impossible IMO. But hey, im not here to argue, so if it is true, then damn...

 

[Power Rabbit]

Originally posted by PreMier
Your not old enough to call me son. Even though it was meant to belittle.

aww...You showed your butt to me, and I showed mine back...I thought you were just screwin around, and it was in good fun...Unless you really ment to be a dick..then I would have used abit more harsh words than son

 

[PreMier]

I have no reason to be a dick. Hence the smiley. I guess I mis-interpreted.

 

[Power Rabbit]

Heh no worries... We cool

I should start breakin out more smiles like randy so people can see my mood...but hell I already feel like a nerd useing forums...lots smiles will put me over the line

 

[instant]

I mean maybe I have no idea how much I weigh and bf. or keep track of my diet. Most likely thing is I would make up all this info to debate in a post - only to prove that you can't always calculate cals. to weight gain. Would this make since...I hope this is how your thinking. Why would I lie about weight and calories think about it...

 

[Vieope]

Originally posted by instant
I mean maybe I have no idea how much I weigh and bf. or keep track of my diet. Most likely thing is I would make up all this info to debate in a post - only to prove that you can't always calculate cals. to weight gain. Would this make since...I hope this is how your thinking. Why would I lie about weight and calories think about it...

Because there is no way to stay with the same weight if you go over the "maintenance calories". That is just impossibleeeeee... Eating 5k is not that easy, I saw ppl with problems eating only 3k. You are probably recording your calories wrong.

 

[zenith]

supplement

You all say this is a waste of money and i actually think your all so wrong this has 30 ingrediants in it La muscle allso say to buy it all sepratly would cost about 500 pounds and you get it for a fraction of the price and i believe them.

Ive looked all over the web and all your favs like bulknutrition.com just for a tub of zma the cheapest ive seen is 30 quid

Glutamine about 30 quid protien 30 quid its all ready gone over 70 quid and theirs still a massive load of other ingrediants if you think im lieing all go look up Komplete and its ingrediants and show all the links to where i can get it cheaper thanks.

 

[Michael D]

Mudge, what protein are you using at 120 calories per serving?

I knew it. I had a theory that the reason I am ALWAYS hot, is because of my metabolism. I wonder if I can slow it down by making my body temp lower.

 

[zenith]

hey all if you really think u can get the ingrediants cheaper than komplete please try and post the products and price on here cuz if im being ripped off i will sew the dam bastards

 

[MissOz]

hey Z...this is really working for you on a motivational level!!!!
go for it , keep focused , training hard , eating clean , and doing your cardio etc etc....your a champ.xx

 

[zenith]

thanks i will stick with it

 

[skillz]

Originally posted by zenith
I dont know if you remember but quite awhile ago about 6 weeks or so when i joined these boards i asked about a product called KOMPLETE by lamuscle.

Most of you said its a waste of money and expensive and just like a normal weight gainer with glut and creatine.

Anyway i thought i have to post this because ive started of a 3 day split routine with the weights and bench i brought and i used komplete for 3 weeks and ive gone up by 24 pounds its unbelieveable this stuff really does work.

I thought id have to post to tel u all about it, it is 70 quid for 10 days supply so i buy 3 for 165 with 1 weeks work wage and use it for a month im gonna carry on using this all the time cause its amazing.

you should all check it out i dont know why its working so well its not excatly got roids in it.

You sure its not all fat?