One of the saddest things ive ever read.

[KelJu]

I can't do that. When I see a fat person, I see someone who is lazy, doesn't care about their appearance and a waste of space.

I was a fat kid. There was nothing lazy about me, and I did care about my appearance. I cared more than anyone else did, but being ignorent to how to lose weight, I did stupid shit like stave myself for months at a time, then I would put the weight right back on as my mom fed me a southern country diet of fried everything and potatoes.

You can't blame a fat kid for being fat. If I knew at the age of 12 what I know now, I would have been the most ripped up 12 year-old you have ever seen.

I read a thread about this on somethingawful a few weeks ago. Those parents should shot for fuckign with a mentally unstable kid like that. There are just so many cruel fucked up people in this world.

 

[Witchblade]

There are just so many cruel fucked up people in this world.

True story.

 

[Little Wing]

she was only 13.... a baby. she obviously needed a lot more from her parents than she got and i find it really hard to lay the blame for this on her at all.

phys ed in school needs a drastic overhaul. it should be taught by qualified people and cover all the aspects of taking care of your physical health and then schools should add a mental health course to boot.

 

[danny81]

lmfao that a paarent would do tht

 

[KelJu]

phys ed in school needs a drastic overhaul. it should be taught by qualified people and cover all the aspects of taking care of your physical health and then schools should add a mental health course to boot.

Schools should have healthier lunches. When kids get fat, the government needs to step in and consider the condition of the child to be neglect. For fucks sake, these kids aren't driving themselves to McDonald's everyday. These kids are not cooking fried chicken with mashed potatoes and cake for dessert. These kids eat what they are given. Kids are an almost direct result of their parents and envirnment.


When you make it a law that when the kid gets over a certain BF% or LBM index the parents have to pay a fine, I bet those kids start losing weight real fucking fast. If the kid is fat, fed the fuckers some broccoli and send them to bed. How hard is that?

No. Kids being fat is not the fault of the kid. Couple mental illness with childhood obesity, and you often get suicide. Again, not the fault of the kid. Childhood obesity is everyone's fault. It is my fault and your fault for not having stepped in and demanded that children eat a healthy diet at school and in public. It is out fault for not demanding that the DHR look into family situations where a kid weighs 200lbs in the 5th grade and the kids mom feds the kid waffle house everyday.

 

[crazy_enough]

Childhood obesity is everyone's fault. It is my fault and your fault for not having stepped in and demanded that children eat a healthy diet at school and in public. It is out fault for not demanding that the DHR look into family situations where a kid weighs 200lbs in the 5th grade and the kids mom feds the kid waffle house everyday.

Id ecided to quote this instead of going off on a fucking rant.

This story saddens me to an extent I couldnt have imagined.

 

[Witchblade]

I agree that parents are to blame when you're talking about kids, but soon as they hit puberty (hard to quantify the exact age), they get a lot more responsibilities. All you need to drastically alter your physique is internet and willpower.

 

[maniclion]

Thats why I believe children shouldn't be allowed in chat environments on the internet. We have adults getting bent out of shape over stuff posted on here. The internet gives people a sense of invincibility and they will say things they would never dare say in person and it's hard to really empathize with a person when they are just text on a monitor.

Also it's my opinion that this girl could have been skinny and still done the same thing, she had an esteem problem more than anything which I think is what causes many people to get lost behind the "layers' as Little Wing said. They don't really love themselves so why should they take care of the shell they are trapped in? Above diet and exercise without the respect for themselves it's just a losing battle....

 

[Doublebase]

I heard you suck east indian dick every tuesday followed by anal play under a bridge with your mother.


...curry

I bet your a good one to bring home to mom.

 

[KelJu]

BINGO.
Sorry, but I have no sympathy for someone that does, thank you, "take the easy way out." Theres a reason why its a sin.

If someone is overweight and pissing and moaning about it all while they dont do SHIT about it, then fuck em. I think its a waste for anyone and everyone to spend their sympathetic tears on laziness.

When a person that is over weight wants to workout and they have that desire in their eye to change, there is no bigger high for me. Its inspirational and I want to be there to support them whenever I can. Even my friends soon to be ex wife...as unfaithful as her selfish ass is, I still give her the up most respect for her weight loss.

As far as saying something about labelization e.g . "the fat one," grow the fuck up. I was a shit stick when I was younger and what did I do? I worked out. Do I go around saying fuck you to people that make fun of skinny people? NOPE. I know theres a way out and MOST people dont choose it. So like it or not, if your fat, then you will be labeled as the fat one in the group, unless theres some one bigger with you...then Ill just call your group, "The Heavyweights."

Ill also touch base on certain genetic 'handicaps' people have that prevent them from losing/gaining weight. I know they are there and I know they exist. However, I wont take a person's own judgment on their unsuccessful "diet" because of a physical dysfunction unless its a doctors diagnosis. Most of the time, like it or not, its laziness. Dont forget, most shit nowadays is automated. Take that into the fact that there are more people that are obese today than there were decades ago. Were there more people working out? NO! Fuck, even the trainers that were working were fucking idiots, cuz all they were were the biggest people in the gym giving advice. Thats it! No knowledge of physiology, no certifications, nothing. They were the ones to ask because they had the physique they knew how to build for their OWN bodies.

So whats left? Less movement. Remote controls, automatic garage door openers, automatic can openers, automated entrance/exit doors, etc. It may seem ridiculous, but it adds up. Ill also go so far that lazy people want LAZY shit! Theyll always take the escalator or elevator over the stairs. Theyll always drive and drive around the mall until they find a parking spot close to the entrance. Theyll always opt for fast food over fresh food. It adds up! We live in the future. And were surrounded by fat slobs.

Did you even read the story? The girl was mentally ill. She was not you. You are not mentally instable. It is a condition just like any other. The inability to keep a healthy balance of your neurotransmitters controlling emotions and mood is no different than a diabetic who can't regulate insulin. She was fat and suffered from depression. She busted her ass to lose weight and was successful. Soon after, an adult played with her emotions in the worse kind of way imaginable. They made her feel like someone liked her. They made her feel like someone cared about her. They made her believe that she might finally have a shot at a normal life. They built her up as high as they could so that they could bring her crashing down as hard as possible.

You can believe what you want, but try and remember this was a mentally ill 12 year old girl. It doesn't have shit to do with being lazy or automation of our civilization.

 

[PreMier]

If you're fat, it's ultimately your own fault. You could partially blame the parents, but in most cases you have yourself to blame.

Lack of knowledge is, in most cases, nonsense: I-net.

The parents that picked on the fat girl (that's what she was) are fucking pathetic basterds, but hanging yourself because someone left you is the easy way out, even if you're fat.

It's harsh, but people should stay objective. Stop looking at things just from the fat girl's perspective and start seeing the bigger picture. Death to socialism. Viva la liberalism.

Edit: thought it would be worth to note I only read LW's summary.

i suggest you actually read the article before you make a total dipshit out of yourself with posts like this.

 

[PreMier]

BINGO.

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for someone that does, thank you, "take the easy way out." Theres a reason why its a sin.

If someone is overweight and pissing and moaning about it all while they dont do SHIT about it, then fuck em. I think its a waste for anyone and everyone to spend their sympathetic tears on laziness.

When a person that is over weight wants to workout and they have that desire in their eye to change, there is no bigger high for me. Its inspirational and I want to be there to support them whenever I can. Even my friends soon to be ex wife...as unfaithful as her selfish ass is, I still give her the up most respect for her weight loss.

As far as saying something about labelization e.g . "the fat one," grow the fuck up. I was a shit stick when I was younger and what did I do? I worked out. Do I go around saying fuck you to people that make fun of skinny people? NOPE. I know theres a way out and MOST people dont choose it. So like it or not, if your fat, then you will be labeled as the fat one in the group, unless theres some one bigger with you...then Ill just call your group, "The Heavyweights."

Ill also touch base on certain genetic 'handicaps' people have that prevent them from losing/gaining weight. I know they are there and I know they exist. However, I wont take a person's own judgment on their unsuccessful "diet" because of a physical dysfunction unless its a doctors diagnosis. Most of the time, like it or not, its laziness. Dont forget, most shit nowadays is automated. Take that into the fact that there are more people that are obese today than there were decades ago. Were there more people working out? NO! Fuck, even the trainers that were working were fucking idiots, cuz all they were were the biggest people in the gym giving advice. Thats it! No knowledge of physiology, no certifications, nothing. They were the ones to ask because they had the physique they knew how to build for their OWN bodies.

So whats left? Less movement. Remote controls, automatic garage door openers, automatic can openers, automated entrance/exit doors, etc. It may seem ridiculous, but it adds up. Ill also go so far that lazy people want LAZY shit! Theyll always take the escalator or elevator over the stairs. Theyll always drive and drive around the mall until they find a parking spot close to the entrance. Theyll always opt for fast food over fresh food. It adds up! We live in the future. And were surrounded by fat slobs.

kelju has already said it best, so i will hold off on a response.. its a 12yr old girl, give me a fucking break.

 

[PreMier]

that was a sad story.. if i had a daughter and some fucking adults did what these people did, i would be in jail. thats absolutely rediculous.. i cant believe the gall of some people.

 

[HialeahChico305]

You can't blame a fat kid for being fat. If I knew at the age of 12 what I know now, I would have been the most ripped up 12 year-old you have ever seen.

my perception of a fat kid has always been as lazy...but what you say makes sense, never thought of it like that.

 

[KentDog]

I agree with KelJu, great points brought up.

There was a comment in the link that I thought mentioned a good point. The parent who created the account and then harassed Megan essentially used the same tools an internet child predator would. It's a real shame she has gotten away with it.

 

[crazy_enough]

I agree with KelJu, great points brought up.

There was a comment in the link that I thought mentioned a good point. The parent who created the account and then harassed Megan essentially used the same tools an internet child predator would. It's a real shame she has gotten away with it.

Exactly. Why there will be no charges pressed is beyond me!!!

 

[evanps]

Mental problems, overweight, puberty, public schools. It's all a recipe for a bad situation and chances are it wouldn't have taken much to put the girl where she ended up but it still happened and because of "adults". This is exactly why it isn't safe for kids on the internet, fucking grown men and women who victimize them. I say hand out the family's info and see what happens, if they spend the rest of their lives on a respirator then so be it. The justice system can't legally handle this but there should be some precedence set.

 

[AKIRA]

Did you even read the story? The girl was mentally ill. She was not you. You are not mentally instable. It is a condition just like any other. The inability to keep a healthy balance of your neurotransmitters controlling emotions and mood is no different than a diabetic who can't regulate insulin. She was fat and suffered from depression. She busted her ass to lose weight and was successful. Soon after, an adult played with her emotions in the worse kind of way imaginable. They made her feel like someone liked her. They made her feel like someone cared about her. They made her believe that she might finally have a shot at a normal life. They built her up as high as they could so that they could bring her crashing down as hard as possible.

You can believe what you want, but try and remember this was a mentally ill 12 year old girl. It doesn't have shit to do with being lazy or automation of our civilization.

kelju has already said it best, so i will hold off on a response.. its a 12yr old girl, give me a fucking break.

No I didnt read the story. I got the synopsis from the people here before I wrote what I did. I am not responding to HER situation...which was kinda clear. The only thing I said that could be directed to HER situation was the suicide. It is because of my mental instability that I find it as an easy way out.

As far as HER loss of weight goes, I would praise her, cuz I said I would if anyone wanted to be a healthier person. I would never ever, say, yell at a fat person walking/joggin up and down a bridge. I would never ever make jokes of a obese person on a stairmaster. Why? Cuz theyve already accomplished the hardest part, which is (cheesy music que) showing up.

Despite her emotional disarray, she was losing weight, yes? So emotional problems didnt account for her weight problem, but her suicide.

Thats where I open the window and let the mubo-jumbo fly out of it.

EDIT: To be clear for all the bleeding hearts in the room, most of my first responce was IN responce to someone saying its shitty to label a person as the "fat one" in the group. Then and there, I went into a rant about how fat people are lazy, which resulted in the final expression: fuck em.

 

[soxmuscle]

I was in shock when I first read this story, and am still shocked now.

with that said,

the real problem in America, as LW alluded to, is the lack of required Health/Fitness courses and the mandatory Gym or Kinetic Wellness class as they call it in my Jew town.

the public school system I was brought up in is widely regarded as tops in the nation. Infact, my high school has been on the cover of Times Magazine twice (1950 & 1998) for being such a prestigious public academic school, in addition to being listed in many other publications numerous times. Also, many popular movies were either partly filmed at my school (Uncle Buck, Home Alones, etc.) or based entirely off of my school (Mean Girls & Breakfast Club). We were also mentioned in a Newsweek article you all might remember titled "High Times," but that's nor here nor there, ha.

odds are, you're saying to yourself: "man, this soxmuscle is a real stuck up little fuck," but that was my point. I was brought up in the supposed best public school system in the country, and yet, the majority of the people I graduated with couldn't tell me the difference between carbs, fats, and proteins.

looking back, why would they?

nutrition and health courses were offered as electives, in place of kinetic wellness, but who in their right mind would elect to take an actual course with a workload comparable to a required class (english, math, history, etc.) when they have the option of hanging out, talking, and doing pretty much nothing with their friends in regular gym class?

you guessed right, no one.

I honestly, swear to god, couldn't name one kid out of the 1200 people I graduated with that took the course I'm referring to. Infact, the only reason the class still exists today is because of the worthless fucks (we all know those kids who refused to run the warm-up jog at the beginning of class, right?) who would rather sit on their ass and be lazy than do something mildly active.

so what about the regular gym classes, you ask?

just as we played football for three weeks and then moved onto another unit, we had a three week health course taught by whoever your gym teacher was (as if he/she had a clue) and then moved onto the next unit.

so let me get this straight (even I'm baffled thinking back on it). I went to a high school, widely regarded as the best public high school in the country, and over my four years of tutelage I was taught three weeks of health by a guy (or girl) who doesn't know there ass from their elbow and isn't qualified to do so?

that is fucking pathetic. Once again, little wing and I are on the same page, the problem lies with the lack of eduacation, period.

 

[soxmuscle]

thats right, eduacation.

i should also mention that we had a three week Sexual Education unit my sophomore year, and then a week long STD awareness unit my senior year.

...and we wonder why Min0 gets confused at times...

 

[maniclion]

And yet I went to a tiny little school in Texas(180 students) my jr & sr yrs and our athletic director was a health nut so he taught everyone about proper nutrition & exercise no one walked the mile nor got to sit out. If you had a note for a twisted ankle (YOU ALL KNOW THOSE GIRLS WHO USED TO CONVENIENTLY SHOW UP TO GYM WITH AN ACE BANDAGE AROUND THEIR ANKLE) then you did a full upper body workout. He and his 3 sons were all into bodybuilding, they were pretty big guys my friend Wyatt and I used to workout with them after school. On game days he would make sure the football team got a well balanced meal he also made us carry around bottles of water every day. Schools need more guys like him...

 

[Witchblade]

Some people aren't interested in being healthy though. You can't force people to live healthy and you shouldn't. (Soon as you reach a responsible age) it's your own choice to live healthy or unhealthy. Don't talk to me about lack of information. I've never had health education in my life, but that's no excuse for me to be ignorant.

Edit: this doesn't mean we shouldn't educate children better.

 

[Tier]

This thread is getting really fat

 

[AKIRA]

Some people aren't interested in being healthy though. You can't force people to live healthy and you shouldn't. (Soon as you reach a responsible age) it's your own choice to live healthy or unhealthy. Don't talk to me about lack of information. I've never had health education in my life, but that's no excuse for me to be ignorant.

Edit: this doesn't mean we shouldn't educate children better.

Good Boy. Lotta hot air blowing in here, so thank you for keeping it simple.

 

[Dale Mabry]

This has nothing to do with weight, it has to do with an "adult" doing something am irresponsible 5th grader would do. Bringing weight into the issue takes focus off the actual issue, that this bitch needs to be punished in some manner.

 

[KelJu]

Good Boy. Lotta hot air blowing in here, so thank you for keeping it simple.

Look dude, Nobody here is defending adults who choose to life unhealthy lives. This thread isn't about adults. Like Dale said, this thread really isn't even about obesity. The thread is about a little girl who suffered so much by the hands of a heartless couple with nothing better to do than torment a poor little girl with emotional problems. She hung herself at 12 years old. Do you have any comprehension of how much suffering it would take to send a 12 year old girl over the edge? Most kids are playing Nintendo, sleeping late, playing soccer, and kissing their first boy or girl. While most kids are living the happiest and most care free days of their life, this girl was suffering from mental illness and bordering the line of suicide.

Call me a bleeding heart and say I am full of hot air. I don't give a shit. At least I read the story before posting some nonsense unrelated to the original post. And you can blow that tough guy bullshit right out your ass. Any almost any circumstance I might could see your side of the argument, but not this one. Read the fucking story, then you might understand why most of us think your option stinks.

 

[BigDyl]

when we see a fat kid we don't think or say oh that little girl with the lively blue eyes do we? no, we say that fat girl. it's a comment on us, our society as a whole not on her. a fat adult is one thing, a fat child should be a call to anyone that something is seriously wrong in that young life and they need intervention. and the fat is the least of it, the fact that in our society you are a useless piece of human nothing once you are buried deep withing those layers of lard is the problem.

Your logic is flawed. The way we view things are subjective. This means that beauty or non-beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and that your view isn't the definitive perspective to have. The glass is half empty or half full. You can either put a positive spin on things or negative, and seeing that the person is dead, that's not a very respectful way to refer to them.

 

[BigDyl]

Focusing on the girls weight is throwing a red herring into the arguement and ignoring the original issue.


Simply: Everyone is different, and adolescents with very basic of knowledge of diet and nutrition don't have much of a chance in changing their bodies, especially while in the middle of hormone havoc. This is where education comes into play. It takes time to change, and it takes time to learn and experiement with nutrition. Working harder isn't nessasarily smarter as we have all come to learn.

You're ignorant if you don't understand that there are people with genetically less efficient metabolisms.

 

[P-funk]

Focusing on the girls weight is throwing a red herring into the arguement and ignoring the original issue.


Simply: Everyone is different, and adolescents with very basic of knowledge of diet and nutrition don't have much of a chance in changing their bodies, especially while in the middle of hormone havoc. This is where education comes into play. It takes time to change, and it takes time to learn and experiement with nutrition. Working harder isn't nessasarily smarter as we have all come to learn.

You're ignorant if you don't understand that there are people with genetically less efficient metabolisms.

agree 100% with The Dyl.

 

[Doublebase]

So what you guys are saying is the some kids have less efficient metabolisms. Therefor they will tend to put on weight. We, as adults, should take that into consideration as well as the normal teenage issues. Makes sense to me. With that being said, there is not excuse for a 40 year old 300lb 5' 10" dude to be walking around in public, draped in velvet, with thin greasy hair.