PCT Help

[Mick59]

Looking to run this set up for PCT post m-drol cycle and wanted some honest opinions to make sure I do it right. I have been browsing through many forums and articles trying to get as much info as possible before I start my cycle to make sure I finish it properly and safely.

I have Liquid Tamox 50mL 20mg/m (Nolva) & Formadrol Extremes (Anti -Xenoestrogen).

For PCT does is it ok to take these together and is it necessary to space them out? From what I have read just take the Tamox dose at the same time every day.
Formadrol, direction say take 2-4 daily for 4-8 weeks. What is best if already taking the Tamox? I've have had someone say take the Formadrol 1 week after starting PCT while already taking the Tamox at the start of PCT (20/20/10/10).

Also during and post cycle I will be taking Liv.52 and Milk Thistle. Is it recommended to take Cycle Assist as well during this time? Cycle Assist contains a few more things than just Milk Thistle by itself.

Any help is much appreciated in advance, thanks

 

[ryansm]

Are we talking Formestane? I am not a fan of AI's in PCT, you already have Nolva if anything grab some DAA TCF-1).

 

[Mick59]

Are we talking Formestane?

This is what it is:
Bodybuilding.com - LG Sciences Formadrol Extreme - Supports Healthy, Normal Hormone Levels* On sale now!

I cant post a link until after 20 posts..

Thanks

 

[oufinny]

You don't need an AI after a dry cycle like S-drol, you do need strong support supps on cycle and something to help get your cholesterol levels in check after like Toco-8. Throw a natty t-booster in there with the DAA and that will help you maintain your gains, Phytoserms comes to mind and it will handle any estro rebound as well. Also, make sure you are taking your support supps through your PCT, don't stop them right after the cycle. Take your Nolva at night, read some good things about doing that and it has a ridiculously long half life so you will be good to go.

 

[HATEFULone]

You don't need an AI after a dry cycle like S-drol, you do need strong support supps on cycle and something to help get your cholesterol levels in check after like Toco-8. Throw a natty t-booster in there with the DAA and that will help you maintain your gains, Phytoserms comes to mind and it will handle any estro rebound as well. Also, make sure you are taking your support supps through your PCT, don't stop them right after the cycle. Take your Nolva at night, read some good things about doing that and it has a ridiculously long half life so you will be good to go.

Some good advice, strong support supps are key. Toco-8 is a great year round general health supplement. Daa really shines in pct, I've used tcf-1, tastes great, but heard good things about testforce as well. I like fenugreek extracts in pct as well. Resveratrol works well in pct to help with libido as well. Nolva at night has been my preferred method, although as of my last 4 pct's I've ditched nolva and gone with torem, kinda like a graduated from drinking ice house and now I can see the merit in a blue moon.

 

[HereToStudy]

I agree with the guys above me

 

[djm6464]

You don't need an AI after a dry cycle like S-drol, you do need strong support supps on cycle and something to help get your cholesterol levels in check after like Toco-8. Throw a natty t-booster in there with the DAA and that will help you maintain your gains, Phytoserms comes to mind and it will handle any estro rebound as well. Also, make sure you are taking your support supps through your PCT, don't stop them right after the cycle. Take your Nolva at night, read some good things about doing that and it has a ridiculously long half life so you will be good to go.

^^^^this, i like using a serm like torem (not a fan of nolva but itll work), and add some components of the pct stack that primordial carries, like the toco8 mentioned above, for hdl effects (highly undervalued, people seem only concerned with their alt levels, when they come back easier than the lipids), and tcf-1 (daa), iv even added the endoamp for cort control, when i want to really get crazy, altho vitamin C will work on a budget

really, when you cycle, and you put your body through the shit that superdrol will do to you, it would hurt to lose those gains, and thats why skimping on pct isnt good

iv never used the formadrol so i dont know, id add it in wk 3 of pct as im guessing its a natty t booster...iv used bioforge and sustain alpha in similar fashions, the phytoserms seems to get good reviews as well

good luck

 

[ryansm]

DAA, resveratrol, Toco-8 along with your Nolva and you are going to keep most if not all of your gains.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

DAA, resveratrol, Toco-8 along with your Nolva and you are going to keep most if not all of your gains.

Perhaps he will gain some gains

 

[oufinny]

DAA, resveratrol, Toco-8 along with your Nolva and you are going to keep most if not all of your gains.

I am going to do TCF-1, Phytoserms, T-Force (fadogia), AI Post Cycle Supoort and some Nolva... I should be just fine. I am thinking of getting some Toco-8 as well to make sure my cholesterol is in check, kind of need it after one di-methyl compound (DMZ) followed by a Epi. I am sure the Niacin is not going to be enough to get me back to normal levels.

 

[Mick59]

DAA, resveratrol, Toco-8 along with your Nolva and you are going to keep most if not all of your gains.

Thanks for the links

With adding these 3 products as a PCT (DAA, resveratrol, Toco-8). The directions show daily use but how long do you use them? I assume just during the 4 week period of the PCT but wanted to ask to be sure.

I have 8 weeks of Cycle Assist arriving today for the cycle and PCT.

I would definately want to keep as much gain as possible is going through this entire process. I have a bulk diet set up and should be good on eating a ton food thats healthy (not that I eat much junk).

Cycle:
M-drol 10/20/20/20
Cycle Assist + Liv.52

PCT:
Nolva (at night)
Toco-8
DDA
resveratrol
Cycle Assist + Liv.52

Thinking its best to just leave the Formadrol alone for now. One article I read said it was a serm or for PCT now the next how many others people say its a Test-Booster that can be used by itself for a cycle.. Just hate misleading products and wasting money.

Thanks again for the help!

 

[djm6464]

Some good advice, strong support supps are key. Toco-8 is a great year round general health supplement. Daa really shines in pct, I've used tcf-1, tastes great, but heard good things about testforce as well. I like fenugreek extracts in pct as well. Resveratrol works well in pct to help with libido as well. Nolva at night has been my preferred method, although as of my last 4 pct's I've ditched nolva and gone with torem, kinda like a graduated from drinking ice house and now I can see the merit in a blue moon.

nice post....i agree everywhere....torem/daa/resveratrol is where its at

 

[ryansm]

Thanks for the links

With adding these 3 products as a PCT (DAA, resveratrol, Toco-8). The directions show daily use but how long do you use them? I assume just during the 4 week period of the PCT but wanted to ask to be sure.

I have 8 weeks of Cycle Assist arriving today for the cycle and PCT.

I would definately want to keep as much gain as possible is going through this entire process. I have a bulk diet set up and should be good on eating a ton food thats healthy (not that I eat much junk).

Cycle:
M-drol 10/20/20/20
Cycle Assist + Liv.52

PCT:
Nolva (at night)
Toco-8
DDA
resveratrol
Cycle Assist + Liv.52

Thinking its best to just leave the Formadrol alone for now. One article I read said it was a serm or for PCT now the next how many others people say its a Test-Booster that can be used by itself for a cycle.. Just hate misleading products and wasting money.

Thanks again for the help!

No problem and for dosing ya just run them alongside your SERM until they are gone. I have even heard feedback from those continuing to gain with this protocol.

 

[ryansm]

I am going to do TCF-1, Phytoserms, T-Force (fadogia), AI Post Cycle Supoort and some Nolva... I should be just fine. I am thinking of getting some Toco-8 as well to make sure my cholesterol is in check, kind of need it after one di-methyl compound (DMZ) followed by a Epi. I am sure the Niacin is not going to be enough to get me back to normal levels.

Looks solid, I also think you have something with the Fadogia, Phytoserms, and Toco-8<you have test, free test, and stimulation covered. Would be interested in hearing your feedback from this.

 

[Mick59]

No problem and for dosing ya just run them alongside your SERM until they are gone. I have even heard feedback from those continuing to gain with this protocol.

with the Toco-8, how long does the 8.5g last vs. the 35g?

 

[oufinny]

Looks solid, I also think you have something with the Fadogia, Phytoserms, and Toco-8<you have test, free test, and stimulation covered. Would be interested in hearing your feedback from this.

One of the orbit reps is coming off a test/tren cycle and he is running just Phyto, Fadogia, DAA and Toco 8 I believe like I am and no SERM. He has one of course but is seeing no need at this point, the Fadogia and DAA are really getting him going, the Phyto is helping of course it just takes some time. This is what brings me to want to buy Toco-8 and and TCF-1.

 

[HereToStudy]

One of the orbit reps is coming off a test/tren cycle and he is running just Phyto, Fadogia, DAA and Toco 8 I believe like I am and no SERM. He has one of course but is seeing no need at this point, the Fadogia and DAA are really getting him going, the Phyto is helping of course it just takes some time. This is what brings me to want to buy Toco-8 and and TCF-1.

Is he logging this anywhere? I am curious of the cycle.

 

[ryansm]

with the Toco-8, how long does the 8.5g last vs. the 35g?

There is just 13 servings in the smaller one, more of a sample, you will need to go with the larger option, and it will last a couple months, honestly it's well worth it the overall health benefits make it a staple for me year long.

 

[ryansm]

One of the orbit reps is coming off a test/tren cycle and he is running just Phyto, Fadogia, DAA and Toco 8 I believe like I am and no SERM. He has one of course but is seeing no need at this point, the Fadogia and DAA are really getting him going, the Phyto is helping of course it just takes some time. This is what brings me to want to buy Toco-8 and and TCF-1.

This is exactly what Eric is talking about if hCG is utilized properly during the cycle then PCT with DAA, Toco-8 and something like Fadogia/Sustain Alpha/Phyto is more than enough to recover.

 

[djm6464]

One of the orbit reps is coming off a test/tren cycle and he is running just Phyto, Fadogia, DAA and Toco 8 I believe like I am and no SERM. He has one of course but is seeing no need at this point, the Fadogia and DAA are really getting him going, the Phyto is helping of course it just takes some time. This is what brings me to want to buy Toco-8 and and TCF-1.

im assuming you mean libido, id like to see bloods, as libido is a poor indicator of hpta being restored....i dont question its possible, but id like to see it