Preacher curls do build peak, and here's why!

[viet_jon]

If you mean isolate the sternal head over the clavicular...Maybe not isolate it per se, perhaps emphasize it...There's really almost no point though..just don't use the same angles and rep/set scheme all the time and you will be fine.

agreed!


emphasize is the word, not isolate.

 

[camarosuper6]

Oh lord.

Shaping muscles.

lol.

 

[AKIRA]

I cant believe this shit is going.

But while its still alive, can anyone tell my how to shape my biceps into looking like horshoes and my triceps into oranges? I wanna do a magic trick later..

 

[assassin]

Any One Who Posted In This Thread Should Be Punished By Copying The Stickies 100 Times , Including Me ....

 

[Witchblade]

Any One Who Posted In This Thread Should Be Punished By Copying The Stickies 100 Times , Including Me ....

Any One Who Posted On Page 3 Is Narrow Minded, Excluding Me...

 

[CowPimp]

When people think they are shaping muscles, they are in fact losing or gaining body fat, causing hypetrophy in some surrounding muscles that have nearby insertion, or are experiencing some psychosomatic phenomenon.

Why do people always want to work their upper chest? Because fat tends to get stored more in the lower portion of their chest, so they think there is some kind of imbalance. What do people want to work their lower abs? Same deal. You tend to store more fat right around the waistline. Guaranteed no one has ever seen someone with more hypertrophied lower abs.

The whole upper/lower abs isolation theory is frequently based on flawed studies. Often people think they are inserting electrodes in the lower rectus abdominus when they are in fact measuring electrical activity in the pyramidalis. By the way, I didn't pull this reason out of my ass. Dr. Stuart McGill firmly believes this is the case and supports his claim well.

 

[P-funk]

When people think they are shaping muscles, they are in fact losing or gaining body fat, causing hypetrophy in some surrounding muscles that have nearby insertion, or are experiencing some psychosomatic phenomenon.

Why do people always want to work their upper chest? Because fat tends to get stored more in the lower portion of their chest, so they think there is some kind of imbalance. What do people want to work their lower abs? Same deal. You tend to store more fat right around the waistline. Guaranteed no one has ever seen someone with more hypertrophied lower abs.

The whole upper/lower abs isolation theory is frequently based on flawed studies. Often people think they are inserting electrodes in the lower rectus abdominus when they are in fact measuring electrical activity in the pyramidalis. By the way, I didn't pull this reason out of my ass. Dr. Stuart McGill firmly believes this is the case and supports his claim well.

Is Stuart McGill a Doctor? I never new that.

 

[assassin]

When people think they are shaping muscles, they are in fact losing or gaining body fat, causing hypetrophy in some surrounding muscles that have nearby insertion, or are experiencing some psychosomatic phenomenon.

Why do people always want to work their upper chest? Because fat tends to get stored more in the lower portion of their chest, so they think there is some kind of imbalance. What do people want to work their lower abs? Same deal. You tend to store more fat right around the waistline. Guaranteed no one has ever seen someone with more hypertrophied lower abs.

The whole upper/lower abs isolation theory is frequently based on flawed studies. Often people think they are inserting electrodes in the lower rectus abdominus when they are in fact measuring electrical activity in the pyramidalis. By the way, I didn't pull this reason out of my ass. Dr. Stuart McGill firmly believes this is the case and supports his claim well.

yeah cp that's what i meant by fat distribution and percentage ....... people think their chest became flat when their bf% get lower (as u said fat is stored more at the lower portion) ,also people think that their muscles are getting more defined and better in shape when their bf% get's lower and the muscles are more visible....that's also when you'l think that your biceps peak is bigger because fats is gone from the edges of the biceps..

 

[GFR]

Is Stuart McGill a Doctor? I never new that.

He is a chiropractor so as much a Doctor as Franco is.

 

[GFR]

Busting a Myth: There is always the debate about shaping a muscle and it can't be done. The shape of your muscle is predetermined by your genes. I call BS, because no you can not change the general shape of your muscle fibers, but you can build certain heads of a muscle to make it appear to have a different shape.

Ex. Chest- What do people complain of all the time in their chest? That the top portion is lagging, and they have a saggy chest. What's the simple solution? Start off with an incline movement first on your chest workout.

Now to biceps. What is one of the best exercises for isolating the biceps? Preacher Curl. Which head of the bicep gives the appearance of a higher peak? The outer head. What grip puts more emphasis, and work load on the outer head? Close grip. So what is the exercise to help build peak on your biceps? Close Grip Preacher Curls. Preferrably with cambered or EZ bar, because using a straight bar is a good way to mess your wrist ligaments up

Other good exercises to mention....

DB Preacher Curls with arm leaning inward
Concentration Curls with arm leaning inward
Hammer Curls
Hammer Strength Preacher Curls
Any other curling exercise where a close grip is used[/b]

With this being said, don't expect to do these exercises and have a peak like Ronnie, Arnold, or Markus Ruhl, but you will see an improvement in your bicep's peak.


danj112

Where did I say anything about "isolating" a certain head. EMPHASIS I'm done with you dumbasses and this retarded forum.

You idiots think that I'm saying doing close grip curls will build you a peak like Markus Ruhl. You can't f*cking read. I simply said these exercises put more emphasis on the outer head, and the larger the outer head=higher peak appearance. Why is that so complicated for you?

 

[BigDyl]

My brain just exploded

 

[fUnc17]

I cant believe this shit is going.

But while its still alive, can anyone tell my how to shape my biceps into looking like horshoes and my triceps into oranges? I wanna do a magic trick later..

damn... beat me to it

 

[Witchblade]

When people think they are shaping muscles, they are in fact losing or gaining body fat, causing hypetrophy in some surrounding muscles that have nearby insertion, or are experiencing some psychosomatic phenomenon.

Why do people always want to work their upper chest? Because fat tends to get stored more in the lower portion of their chest, so they think there is some kind of imbalance. What do people want to work their lower abs? Same deal. You tend to store more fat right around the waistline. Guaranteed no one has ever seen someone with more hypertrophied lower abs.

The whole upper/lower abs isolation theory is frequently based on flawed studies. Often people think they are inserting electrodes in the lower rectus abdominus when they are in fact measuring electrical activity in the pyramidalis. By the way, I didn't pull this reason out of my ass. Dr. Stuart McGill firmly believes this is the case and supports his claim well.

That would explain the chest and ab examples. But how about the delts? My front delts are way bigger than the rear ones.

And the biceps? Do you think emphasis on the outer head/brachialis is possible to create (the illusion of) more thickness?

Finally, does this mean that dips build the entire chest and that your chest would eventually shape the same way from dips as from inclines?

 

[CowPimp]

That would explain the chest and ab examples. But how about the delts? My front delts are way bigger than the rear ones.

And the biceps? Do you think emphasis on the outer head/brachialis is possible to create (the illusion of) more thickness?

Finally, does this mean that dips build the entire chest and that your chest would eventually shape the same way from dips as from inclines?

Well, first of all, I do think some degree of emphasis on the clavicular head of the pectoralis major is possible. As far as I know, it is separately innervated from the other head. Nonetheless, their anatomical functions are so similar that they often act as a syncytium. I still think it's funny when people with small chests do inclines all day long because their upper chest is weak; in reality, they just need more overall mass before worrying about silly shit like that. The effectiveness of inclines for developing the upper chest specifically is highly debatable at best.

The deltoids are a different story. There are 3 separate heads with totally different anatomical functions. They are also innervated separately.

I really think the ability to cause hypertrophy in one head of the biceps over the other is overrated. Can it be done? Anatomically, it is possible due to something called active insufficiency. I'm not sure how much additional hypertrophy this leads to for one head over the other, but I'm willing to be it's minimal. The bracialis, well, that's a different story. It's an entirely different muscle with different advantageous leverage points, though it's functionality is pretty similar to that of the biceps. The fact that the biceps are more active when the forearm is supinated, and they also assist in this articuation, is the prime differentiator.

I sincerely doubt there is going to be a huge difference between the chest you develop from doing only dips relative to doing only inclines. Is a difference possible? Yes, but again, I think the difference is exaggerated by many, especially if the chest isn't all that developed in the first place. Anatomically it is possible, but asking me to quantify that kind of difference is virtually impossible.

 

[Witchblade]

Well, that explains it! Thanks for the help. I guess it's probably also different for everybody, the amount of which they can 'shape' muscles.