Prolab vs. Optimum Whey

[Big_Andy]

I heard a lot of good things about Prolab NLarge2. What about Prolab Pure Whey? It seems many people are content with Optimum Nutrition Whey...pricewise, it's almost the same, anyone knows why so many people are in the Optimum Nutrition camp but I almost never heard anything about Prolab Pure Whey.
Opinions?
Thanks.

 

[BUSTINOUT]

N-large is a gainer and therefor higher carbs and more calories. I prefer the N-large and when it comes to just Whey, I like Isopure zero carbs.

 

[mad_mike]

The only kind of whey I use is Prolab and I don't think I'll change. I think it's great, some flavors like chocolate are a little hard to mix with a spoon but that is why the blender was invented.

 

[Shmoo]

Prolab and Optimum are about the same price and quality but the Optimum is easier to mix with a spoon cause I always don`t have time to use a blender.

 

[Dr. Pain]

The Prolab is harder to mix, does require a blender or a high tech shaker (one with a grate), because it has "lecithin" in it, and about 6 grams of carbs, some from sugars! My customers prefer it's taste and fullness in all 3 flavors over Optimum. Although there are only a few major manufacturers of whey powders (The company name is secondary), it is slightly, only slightly, higher quality the Optimum!

That said, Optimum is lower in carbs (2-4 grams, depending on the flavor), especially the "Black label" and perhaps better for those cutting! Also, it definately mixes better!


DP

 

[kuso]

Dp....how about ProPlete by Labrada?? Any differences there that you know of?

 

[Dr. Pain]

I only have one problem w/Labrada....and since it's my experience and opinion.......and the site likely will not be sued over it...I will tell you!

We sell some of their MRPs and Bars....but we use to carry their creatine! "Used to" are the key words here. We asked our distributor to ask them what the source of the creatine was....and we got a letter back from Labrada saying that is was exclusively SKW labs, aka CREAPURE, perhaps the best in the world! So we asked SKW..."How come Labrada doesn't use your logo?"...and we expecting it to be a licensing or legal issue response.....however, they replied "Because they (Labrada) mix creatines, it's not 100% ours!"


Labrada's logo: "If it's one the label, it's in the bottle!"


I have no reason to doubt their protein....I just doubt them!

DP

 

[kuso]

very interesting......always good to hear feed back from those that know a little bit more than usual about the companies

 

[Dr. Pain]

Thanks, but there are some stories you DON'T WANT to hear!


DP

 

[kuso]

Well actually...as a consumer I`d like to hear em all.........I think

 

[Dr. Pain]

Trust me, you don't!

A good one is where we actually called the labs on some "independant third parties assays" or...

how they "spray"some protein powders to add w8
where some things come from, raw material grades
how some calciums are made
bad creatine

One distributor recently slapped me on the back, smiled and "boasted", "it's amazing what we get away with in our industry!"


DP

 

[kuso]

Well then I have to ask........are there some particular brands you would recommend???

 

[Dr. Pain]

Depends what, some companies excel at some things!


DP

 

[Big_Andy]

could it be that the poor solubility of Prolab's Whey is because it contains only Whey Protein Concentrate, not Isolates (as compared to Optimum Whey).?
Interestingly, the ingredients listed on my (recently purchased) 5 lb can of Prolab's Pure Whey are different than what they list on DPSnutrition site. Maybe the newer version became worse? Mine does not list Whey Isolates, while the description from DPSnutrition site does.
Better solubility (Of Optimum) appealed to me because I thought it correlates with better bioavailability...so right now I'm a bit disappointed with Prolab, but MAYBE results will prove me wrong.

 

[BUSTINOUT]

If I was going to go with one description over the other, I would go withthe one on the product, not the website peddling them.

DP made a good point, you guys need to quit dickin around with spoons and blenders and just buy about half dozen shakers and have one with you everywhere. With exception to isopure, my theory is, if I can mix it with a spoon, it's got nothing in it. lol

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by Big_Andy
could it be that the poor solubility of Prolab's Whey is because it contains only Whey Protein Concentrate, not Isolates (as compared to Optimum Whey).?
Interestingly, the ingredients listed on my (recently purchased) 5 lb can of Prolab's Pure Whey are different than what they list on DPSnutrition site. Maybe the newer version became worse? Mine does not list Whey Isolates, while the description from DPSnutrition site does.
Better solubility (Of Optimum) appealed to me because I thought it correlates with better bioavailability...so right now I'm a bit disappointed with Prolab, but MAYBE results will prove me wrong.

Labels use trickery...be careful!

For example..WPC can be purchased in different grades 60, 70, and even 80% pure.

Isolates, ion exchange, and other forms (there are 5-6 now) and the WPCs above 70% have received a lot "more processing." This is not always a good thing depending on your goals and purposes!

The objective for most of these companies is to have at least 70% protein per serving size (as in a 30 gram serving having at leat 21 grams of protein)....now here is were it gets tricky.

Sometimes it is easier to buy a 60% WPC and then add the other forms...JUST TO GET THEM ON THE LABEL....in minute amouts...to bring the product up to 70%. Designer and Optimum do this.


Here is the catch.....if you have a sensitive stomach, cancer, aids, etc (sorry to group that all together)...then the higher end proteins offer more digestability and assimilation. You basically get MORE protein and less Ca-Ca per serving,

If your goal is size and strength, tissue repair and resynthesis....then the lower end proteins like the Optimum and Prolab we are talking about are excellent. You see...the Ca-Ca is were some of the more interesting "growth factors" of the protein are found!


Hope that made sense!


DP

 

[Big_Andy]

Thanks Dr.Pain!