Protein that is... clean?

[juggernaut]

Prince...relax dude. You haven't put a shit product out yet. I just recommended the andro to a friend of mine and I do see changes starting, yet it does take a while for it to happen with that stuff, doesnt it?

 

[Leviathan]

Actually, prince, I was wondering if I did buy your andro supplement would I have to continue taking it after I reach my LBM goal? I'm looking to build twenty pounds of muscle before January.

 

[nni]

guys its a ph/steroid, dont commit to it, unless you are going to complete the cycle and pct.

 

[gopro]

you have absolutely no way of knowing this. its a nice claim though.

I know EXACTLY what AAEFX does from A to Z...and I know they are the only supplement facility that could start manufacturing pharmaceuticals tomorrow and be approved to do so.

 

[gopro]

Whey Isolate is the purest form of whey protein, Period, Provided it's produced using MICROFILTRATION.

ION EXCHANGE method is inferior to MICROFILTRATION. Why?
"You see, a drastic shift in pH is required to drive the chemical reaction which isolates the protein. In so doing, the nature of the whey protein is compromised. The relatively allergenic Beta-Lacto Globulin fraction becomes predominant (instead of the more delicate Alpha-Lactalbumin) and many of the valuable microfractions of whey are lost or reduced including: glycomacropeptides, immunoglobulins, lactoperoxidase and lactoferrin. So in essence, what is produced is a stripped down protein that doesn???t deliver many of the benefits of filtered whey.
So, in the Ion-Exchange process, ratios and quantities of valuable protein fractions are altered to produce a protein which may impart less of a heath promoting effect than that of a filtered whey."

Any one who's interested in knowing why I am saying that can read IronMagLabs Whey Protein Isolate Now Available at Bodybuilding.com - [Blog]





I beg to differ, Ion Exchange & Micro filtration both are low temperature methods of producing Whey Isolate. Both methods in my opinion are "fraction" sparring as they are low temp processes.

Eric, can give us some insight on how EFX produces Whey Isolate?

Ion Exchange is NOT a good method for processing protein.

Again, the more a protein is processed, as with making isolates, the more fractions and growth factors are destroyed.

Do I think this makes a HUGE difference in one's gains? Not really, as I have used pure isolate for years and also combinations of isolates and concentrates with no visual/perceived difference in recovery or progress.

Of course, if you are lactose intolerant than isolates will be far easier on your stomach, so then I would use them for sure. I have no problems with concentrates.

 

[gopro]

Smile all you want Mr. Juggernaut, but unfortunately, nni is wrong about what he said

 

[gopro]

The difference between isolate and concentrate is whey protein isolate is more pure, typically around 90-95% pure protein, concentrate is less pure, around 70-80% protein and it contains more fat and lactose, so I guess it it depends on how much you care about what you're putting in your body, if you are on a very strict diet it would only make sense to use pure isolate.

If you get their protein free I find it hard to believe that you would not be using the pure isolate if they have one.

They have one and I don't use it, LOL. And yes, its free!

 

[gopro]

The difference between isolate and concentrate is whey protein isolate is more pure, typically around 90-95% pure protein, concentrate is less pure, around 70-80% protein and it contains more fat and lactose, so I guess it it depends on how much you care about what you're putting in your body, if you are on a very strict diet it would only make sense to use pure isolate.

If you get their protein free I find it hard to believe that you would not be using the pure isolate if they have one.

Oh, I should mention that when I spoke of EFX having the cleanest/purist proteins, I was not referring to isolates vs. concentrates, but purity of the actual product (raw ingredients, lack of contaminants, testing procedures, manufacturing facility).

I would actually lay this claim to every single one of their products.

 

[danzik17]

I know EXACTLY what AAEFX does from A to Z...and I know they are the only supplement facility that could start manufacturing pharmaceuticals tomorrow and be approved to do so.

I could make the same claim about some random company that operates out of a shady white van.

That tells us nothing of how it's made or of quality control.

 

[gopro]

Lastly...I have used Prince's protein and loved the flavor, mixibility and ease on the tummy. Prince has an excellent product!

 

[nkira]

Explain.

I know EXACTLY what AAEFX does from A to Z...and I know they are the only supplement facility that could start manufacturing pharmaceuticals tomorrow and be approved to do so.

 

[nkira]

Did you read through the complete article?---> IronMagLabs Whey Protein Isolate Now Available at Bodybuilding.com - [Blog]

Looking at your posting times I don't think you bothered to read, not that it bothers me but you are replying without reading what other's have to say.

Ion Exchange is NOT a good method for processing protein.

Again, the more a protein is processed, as with making isolates, the more fractions and growth factors are destroyed.

Do I think this makes a HUGE difference in one's gains? Not really, as I have used pure isolate for years and also combinations of isolates and concentrates with no visual/perceived difference in recovery or progress.

Of course, if you are lactose intolerant than isolates will be far easier on your stomach, so then I would use them for sure. I have no problems with concentrates.

 

[juggernaut]

Eric is going by personal opinion, and once again fails to show any documented research to back his assertions of purity. I refer back to the shady white van comment. You truly have no idea of what's put into the processing. Any company who would openly talk of their "magic" can fall victim to losing money-but your company doesn't care about losing money, Eric? Woah!

 

[Arnold]

They have one and I don't use it, LOL. And yes, its free!

you know and admitted that isolates are a more pure protein, higher percentage of whey per gram, has less lactose and fat, so why would you use a concentrate over an isolate if it were free?

 

[nni]

I know EXACTLY what AAEFX does from A to Z...and I know they are the only supplement facility that could start manufacturing pharmaceuticals tomorrow and be approved to do so.

i didnt realize that they had better qc than prolab, or now, or ON. i mean i would imagine ON being as their whole game is protein would be pretty tight. prolab is a huge company, with a large operation, i would imagine they would pretty tight. and NOW has almost any QC certification that you can get. i wasnt aware that aaefx topped all other companies. im not doubting that they are extremely tight, but for some reason i dont believe they are the #1 in the industry, especially being as i know some people over at prolab. perhaps some companies simply dont advertise their testing methods?

i really dont care, i just dont like broad statements that cannot be proven.

 

[Arnold]

I just want to add that IronMagLabs is not big enough (no where near!) to have their own manufacturing facility, as most supplement companies don't, however the manufacturer we use has been in business for over 30 years and they are an FDA approved, registered and inspected facility that maintains GMP Certification and follows all FDA guidelines. The key word there is they are registered. Many supplement companies like to say crap about following "GMP guidelines", however it means very little if their manufacturing facility is not inspected and registered by/with the FDA.

 

[nni]

I just want to add that IronMagLabs is not big enough (no where near!) to have their own manufacturing facility, as most supplement companies don't, however the manufacturer we use has been in business for over 30 years and they are an FDA approved, registered and inspected facility that maintains GMP Certification and follows all FDA guidelines. The key word there is they are registered. Many supplement companies like to say crap about following "GMP guidelines", however it means very little if their manufacturing facility is not inspected and registered by/with the FDA.

a quick browse of aaefx's website shows their testing methods. again, im sure they are very tight, but i know for a fact many others are as well.

 

[gopro]

I could make the same claim about some random company that operates out of a shady white van.

That tells us nothing of how it's made or of quality control.

Consumers now spend billions of dollars annually on dietary supplements ??? many times with almost zero assurance of purity. Think about it. Fancy packaging, shiny labels and big marketing campaigns don???t mean very much if what???s inside the bottle isn???t pure and potent. Here???s the bottom line: you are paying for results. If your brand doesn???t have the necessary testing and quality control systems in place to avoid problems, you might be fooled ???but your body isn???t!

Look Past The Clever Ads??? Flashy Packaging???And Ask These 7 Simple, Yet Revealing Questions To Guard Your Wallet???And Potentially Your Health!

1.Would You Please Describe Your Company???s Quality Assurance Policies & Procedures?

What???s the big, hairy secret even some of the biggest-named brands don???t want you to know about their quality assurance process? (Hint: they usually don???t have a process). If they do happen to be one of the few that actually do, are they willing to share it with you? If not, why? The answer you don???t want to hear is, ???We just leave all that up to our manufacturer.???

2.Who Actually Manufactures Your Products & How Can I Contact Them?

90-95% of all products are produced by Contract Manufacturers and NOT the supplement company itself. You can verify this for yourself by simply looking on the label for statements like, ???Distributed By??? or ???Manufactured For???. Therefore, the manufacturer they use is absolutely critical to the overall quality and effectiveness of their products???and the results you???re hoping for. So do your homework. And don???t be shocked if some flat-out refuse to reveal their manufacturer???s name and location!

3.What Is Your Manufacturer???s Current FDA Standing?

The FDA???s new gold standard rating for high-level manufacturers is cGMP, which stands for ???Current Good Manufacturing Practices.??? It is the lowest designation you should ever accept as a consumer, regardless of how popular your brand might be. Don???t just take their word for it. Demand proof, such as copies of FDA reports, that shows they passed their most current inspection.

4.Does Your Manufacturer Test Their Raw Materials, Or Do They Only Rely On

Certificates of Analysis Given To Them By Their Suppliers?
A reputable manufacturer will ALWAYS test any raw materials they receive, regardless of what a supplier may tell them. Their supplier???s word may be good enough for them, but is it good enough for you and your body? Here???s why. A Nutritional Outlook Study (conducted in April of 2000) found that more than 70% of manufacturers switched raw ingredient suppliers in 1999? 51.4% of them cited quality as the number one reason why. That was only a few years ago; do you honestly believe things have really improved that much since then? In July of 2007, the FDA passed its strictest and most sweeping regulation program ever for dietary supplement manufacturers. What does that tell you?

5.Are Your Products Tested To Verify Their Purity And Potency?

Let???s face it. Quality control is usually the first to be cut when a company wants to increase its bottom line profits. Why? Because it???s incredibly expensive! In 2004 alone, almost $18 million of adulterated and mislabeled products were seized or destroyed. And recently, a study revealed that 25% of 58 randomly purchased products tested contained steroids, while 11.1% were contaminated with stimulants. At the very minimum, responsible companies should demand their products be tested to guarantee they meet label claims and are not contaminated, regardless of the expense. It???s even better is to also have them screened by an independent source. Demand they provide Certificates of Analysis as proof.

6.Do You Routinely Audit Your Manufacturer To Make Sure They Comply With Your Company???s Quality Standards And Policies?

It???s one thing to create quality standards and hope your manufacturer follows them. But it???s another to know for a fact they???re being followed to the letter. Make sure the company you buy from visits their manufacturer at least once a year to ensure they fully comply with their brand standards. Also, be sure to ask for documented proof of each audit and the results.

7.Do You Perform Toxicology Studies On Your Products To Ensure They Are Safe For Humans?

Toxicology tests are standard practice in the pharmaceutical industry. Before any drug can be tested on humans, toxicology studies must first be carried out in vitro or in animals to guarantee their safety. As the name implies, these studies help to assess at what levels chronic toxicity may be reached. They also look for potentially dangerous side effects. Unfortunately, toxicology studies are NOT currently required for nutritional supplements. Stick to brands that are willing to pay for such tests

So How Does All American EFX Stack Up?

1.Would You Please Describe Your Company???s Quality Assurance Policies & Procedures?

Frankly, the industry standards for quality assurance weren???t strong enough to satisfy us???so we created our own: The ???All American EFX Quality Assurance & Consumer Protection Program???. It???s easily now the strictest and most thorough quality assurance and testing policy this industry has ever seen. Our ultra high, over-the-top standards reveal & eliminate virtually every possible money-wasting, results-killing impurity that others miss ??? or never even test for to begin with.

In short, we test everything before, during, and after production to eliminate impurities???and guarantee 100% potency. Industry standards require products to meet label claims by at least plus or minus 10%. Well, forget that??? All American EFX customers deserve much better. We demand they fall within a minimum of 2%. Period. If it passes, our manufacturer gives us a Certificate of Analysis that we post on our website for your review. Some call our hardcore testing policy ???too extreme???... but we just call it ???good business???. After all, you???ve only got one body.

2.Who Actually Manufactures Your Products & How Can I Contact Them?

We are proud to share that all of our products are made in the United States at All American Pharmaceutical. They are located at 2376 Main Street, Billings, Montana 59105. Since we???ve made them our exclusive manufacturer, we were also able to set up a special ???AAEFX Consumer Awareness Hotline??? at their facility. Call them at 1-406-238-1869 (8:00 am - 5:00 pm MST) to ask questions about anything you might want to know regarding our quality, testing, or just to simply verify our claims.

3.What Is Your Manufacturer???s Current FDA Standing?

The FDA has already designated all American Pharmaceutical as cGMP compliant. In fact, you can download the results of their last FDA inspection on our website.

4.Does Your Manufacturer Test Their Raw Materials, Or Do They Only Rely On Certificates of Analysis Given To Them By Their Suppliers?

Believe it or not, some Certificates of Analysis supplied by raw material suppliers have a disclaimer on them stating that it is ???for information purposes??? and ???should not be a substitute for strict quality control???. Say what?! All of our vendors are required to fill out a 9-page questionnaire and provide us with samples to test. Even though industry standards suggest testing only 1-in-10 barrels, we test them all??? every single barrel??? every time??? it???s non-negotiable. Consider this fact: others manufacturers and supplement companies are buying and using the very same raw materials that we turn away. So guess what you might be getting when you buy products from companies that DON???T test this way?

5.Are Your Products Tested To Verify Their Purity And Potency?

Absolutely. We think you deserve to know that what you put into your body meets labels claims and is drug-free???especially when it comes to our products. That???s why we have them tested both in-house AND also independently to guarantee it beyond a shadow of any doubt.

All American EFX is proud to partner with Buchi Analytical, a Swiss-based world leader in cutting-edge Near Infrared (NIR) Analysis technology. NIR is the same testing method used worldwide by the Pharmaceutical Industry to meet their tough regulatory compliance standards. Unlike traditional testing methods, NIR instantly identifies and verifies every molecule of a product in seconds.

We???ve established another first for our industry by having our products screened independently for drugs. Bioceuticals Research & Development Analytical Laboratory (BR&D), the same lab we use to test our products for purity and potency, also has a contract with the largest sports testing laboratory in the world. This particular lab specializes in independent product screening for hidden contaminants such as narcotics and steroids.

Here???s why they were BR&D???s obvious choice to perform this type of testing:

???For over 40 years they have been a world leader in area of testing nutritional supplements for contamination with drugs and other banned substances.
???Their scientists have collectively published more than 300 scientific papers.
???They have ISO 17025 accreditation for their testing standards
???Their testing data is legally defensible.
???They have a massive 50,000+ square foot facility jammed wall-to-wall with some of the most cutting-edge testing equipment you could ever imagine???accurate enough to test down to the low parts per billion??? and some into the parts per trillion range.
???This independent lab fully screens our products for 16 substances banned by sports regulatory authorities.

Does all this testing cost us more? YES???an average of $3 per bottle! But we simply can???t afford to take chances...and neither can you. All American EFX is a privately held corporation without lenders, venture capitalists, or shareholders who could demand we change our policies to cut costs.

6.Do You Routinely Audit Your Manufacturer To Make Sure They Comply With Your Company???s Quality Standards And Policies?

We visit and fully inspect All American Pharmaceutical a minimum of at least one time each year to ensure they are in full compliance with our ???All American EFX Quality Assurance & Consumer Protection Program???. You can see the results of our last inspection on our website.

7.Do You Perform Toxicology Studies On Your Products To Ensure They Are Safe For Humans?

Even though they are not required (and extremely expensive), we now perform Toxicology tests on every new product we produce. We???ve decided to raise the bar even higher by setting the standard in our industry. We are also now in the process of performing additional Toxicology studies on our existing product line as further insurance and proof of their purity and potency. You can download the results of all our Toxicology tests to date by clinking right here.


We Can???t Do This Alone???

Here is a list of our ???Consumer Protection Program??? Partners:

???All American Pharmaceutical
???Buchi Analytical (This logo is exclusive to All American EFX):
???Bioceuticals Research & Development Analytical Laboratory (This logo a designation is exclusive to All American EFX):
???Better Business Bureau

Whose Fault Is It When You Don???t Get The Results You Hoped For
Due To A Lack Of Testing And Poor Quality?

We Say It???s Your Brand???s Fault!

 

[gopro]

Explain.

Went to the facility. Saw how EVERYTHING was done from A to Z. Absolutely incredible...and since I have also been to several others, I can make a comparison.

 

[gopro]

i didnt realize that they had better qc than prolab, or now, or ON. i mean i would imagine ON being as their whole game is protein would be pretty tight. prolab is a huge company, with a large operation, i would imagine they would pretty tight. and NOW has almost any QC certification that you can get. i wasnt aware that aaefx topped all other companies. im not doubting that they are extremely tight, but for some reason i dont believe they are the #1 in the industry, especially being as i know some people over at prolab. perhaps some companies simply dont advertise their testing methods?

i really dont care, i just dont like broad statements that cannot be proven.

Are they at a level where they could become a drug producing company overnight if they wished? The AAP facility is ABOVE guidelines set by the FDA for DRUG companies at the present time.

 

[gopro]

you know and admitted that isolates are a more pure protein, higher percentage of whey per gram, has less lactose and fat, so why would you use a concentrate over an isolate if it were free?

I believe concentrates contain more intact growth factors and protein fractions. Thus I prefer a combo of isolate and concentates.

 

[gopro]

Eric is going by personal opinion, and once again fails to show any documented research to back his assertions of purity. I refer back to the shady white van comment. You truly have no idea of what's put into the processing. Any company who would openly talk of their "magic" can fall victim to losing money-but your company doesn't care about losing money, Eric? Woah!

Read above.

And before you go..."oh yeah, any company could say that...blah, blah."

1-AAEFX can prove it. Just call them and ask for the proof.
2-I took the time to fly to Montana and be taken through the entire facility, so this is not just personal opinion, but first hand experience.
3-While there...me, the president of AAEFX, the owner of AAP, and Flex Wheeler made a film documentary of what goes on in the facility...and it will be made public in just a short time so EVERYONE can view it.

 

[gopro]

Finally...I love it so much that when I join in a thread all of a sudden so many people start posting in it!

So much fun!!!!

 

[nni]

Are they at a level where they could become a drug producing company overnight if they wished? The AAP facility is ABOVE guidelines set by the FDA for DRUG companies at the present time.

i dont know, and neither do you, therefore you cannot make such a claim.

Finally...I love it so much that when I join in a thread all of a sudden so many people start posting in it!

So much fun!!!!

well when you make a statement that is nothing more than a sales pitch, and then not back it up, what do you expect? if you expect us to be wowwed and go along with it, then i would be dissapointed. what you showed for your company is about on par with many companies, they are very tight with qc, but you did not once show that they are better than anyone else. ds is a small company, and what you provided isnt much different than out operation, so to me a multi million dollar company should be able to do that no problem. the difference is, you have an in house manufacturing facility. thats all i see as a difference (and you have testing labs that are exclusive to you, which would suggest that they arent a third party).

 

[gopro]

i dont know, and neither do you, therefore you cannot make such a claim.



well when you make a statement that is nothing more than a sales pitch, and then not back it up, what do you expect? if you expect us to be wowwed and go along with it, then i would be dissapointed. what you showed for your company is about on par with many companies, they are very tight with qc, but you did not once show that they are better than anyone else. ds is a small company, and what you provided isnt much different than out operation, so to me a multi million dollar company should be able to do that no problem. the difference is, you have an in house manufacturing facility. thats all i see as a difference (and you have testing labs that are exclusive to you, which would suggest that they arent a third party).

Nope, not a sales pitch. Simple truth. When the video comes out, you can then make a comparison.

And yes, they are third party.

And...personally I do not care whether you are wowwed, go along, or ignore. I just saw this thread and posted what I feel is FACT in it.

I just find it enjoyable that when I post in a thread, it just lights up! I think that is cool and fun, and also good for my friend Prince!

 

[nni]

Nope, not a sales pitch. Simple truth. When the video comes out, you can then make a comparison.

And yes, they are third party.

And...personally I do not care whether you are wowwed, go along, or ignore. I just saw this thread and posted what I feel is FACT in it.

I just find it enjoyable that when I post in a thread, it just lights up! I think that is cool and fun, and also good for my friend Prince!

its not even worth continuing because you just arent seeing it.

 

[Arnold]

I just find it enjoyable that when I post in a thread, it just lights up!

I can't argue that.

 

[Chubby]

First of all, I like this section of the forum. Everyone seems to debate in a civilized manner without calling names and using cartoons and animations to condemn opposing views. I am also able to gain more knowledge from you guys.

Now back to the topic, when they microfilter whey protein, what do they filter? For example: contaminants or lactose and sugars. If this is true, then can they turn whey concentrate into whey isolate by following steps?
For Ex: Whey concentrate + microfiteration = Whey isolate ?

 

[juggernaut]

You've stated what can be read on the back of a label. Unless you're one of the few people who actually believes exactly what is on the back of a label? Or is this another "four page special report"?

Consumers now spend billions of dollars annually on dietary supplements ??? many times with almost zero assurance of purity. Think about it. Fancy packaging, shiny labels and big marketing campaigns don???t mean very much if what???s inside the bottle isn???t pure and potent. Here???s the bottom line: you are paying for results. If your brand doesn???t have the necessary testing and quality control systems in place to avoid problems, you might be fooled ???but your body isn???t!

Look Past The Clever Ads??? Flashy Packaging???And Ask These 7 Simple, Yet Revealing Questions To Guard Your Wallet???And Potentially Your Health!

1.Would You Please Describe Your Company???s Quality Assurance Policies & Procedures?

What???s the big, hairy secret even some of the biggest-named brands don???t want you to know about their quality assurance process? (Hint: they usually don???t have a process). If they do happen to be one of the few that actually do, are they willing to share it with you? If not, why? The answer you don???t want to hear is, ???We just leave all that up to our manufacturer.???

2.Who Actually Manufactures Your Products & How Can I Contact Them?

90-95% of all products are produced by Contract Manufacturers and NOT the supplement company itself. You can verify this for yourself by simply looking on the label for statements like, ???Distributed By??? or ???Manufactured For???. Therefore, the manufacturer they use is absolutely critical to the overall quality and effectiveness of their products???and the results you???re hoping for. So do your homework. And don???t be shocked if some flat-out refuse to reveal their manufacturer???s name and location!

3.What Is Your Manufacturer???s Current FDA Standing?

The FDA???s new gold standard rating for high-level manufacturers is cGMP, which stands for ???Current Good Manufacturing Practices.??? It is the lowest designation you should ever accept as a consumer, regardless of how popular your brand might be. Don???t just take their word for it. Demand proof, such as copies of FDA reports, that shows they passed their most current inspection.

4.Does Your Manufacturer Test Their Raw Materials, Or Do They Only Rely On

Certificates of Analysis Given To Them By Their Suppliers?
A reputable manufacturer will ALWAYS test any raw materials they receive, regardless of what a supplier may tell them. Their supplier???s word may be good enough for them, but is it good enough for you and your body? Here???s why. A Nutritional Outlook Study (conducted in April of 2000) found that more than 70% of manufacturers switched raw ingredient suppliers in 1999? 51.4% of them cited quality as the number one reason why. That was only a few years ago; do you honestly believe things have really improved that much since then? In July of 2007, the FDA passed its strictest and most sweeping regulation program ever for dietary supplement manufacturers. What does that tell you?

5.Are Your Products Tested To Verify Their Purity And Potency?

Let???s face it. Quality control is usually the first to be cut when a company wants to increase its bottom line profits. Why? Because it???s incredibly expensive! In 2004 alone, almost $18 million of adulterated and mislabeled products were seized or destroyed. And recently, a study revealed that 25% of 58 randomly purchased products tested contained steroids, while 11.1% were contaminated with stimulants. At the very minimum, responsible companies should demand their products be tested to guarantee they meet label claims and are not contaminated, regardless of the expense. It???s even better is to also have them screened by an independent source. Demand they provide Certificates of Analysis as proof.

6.Do You Routinely Audit Your Manufacturer To Make Sure They Comply With Your Company???s Quality Standards And Policies?

It???s one thing to create quality standards and hope your manufacturer follows them. But it???s another to know for a fact they???re being followed to the letter. Make sure the company you buy from visits their manufacturer at least once a year to ensure they fully comply with their brand standards. Also, be sure to ask for documented proof of each audit and the results.

7.Do You Perform Toxicology Studies On Your Products To Ensure They Are Safe For Humans?

Toxicology tests are standard practice in the pharmaceutical industry. Before any drug can be tested on humans, toxicology studies must first be carried out in vitro or in animals to guarantee their safety. As the name implies, these studies help to assess at what levels chronic toxicity may be reached. They also look for potentially dangerous side effects. Unfortunately, toxicology studies are NOT currently required for nutritional supplements. Stick to brands that are willing to pay for such tests

So How Does All American EFX Stack Up?

1.Would You Please Describe Your Company???s Quality Assurance Policies & Procedures?

Frankly, the industry standards for quality assurance weren???t strong enough to satisfy us???so we created our own: The ???All American EFX Quality Assurance & Consumer Protection Program???. It???s easily now the strictest and most thorough quality assurance and testing policy this industry has ever seen. Our ultra high, over-the-top standards reveal & eliminate virtually every possible money-wasting, results-killing impurity that others miss ??? or never even test for to begin with.

In short, we test everything before, during, and after production to eliminate impurities???and guarantee 100% potency. Industry standards require products to meet label claims by at least plus or minus 10%. Well, forget that??? All American EFX customers deserve much better. We demand they fall within a minimum of 2%. Period. If it passes, our manufacturer gives us a Certificate of Analysis that we post on our website for your review. Some call our hardcore testing policy ???too extreme???... but we just call it ???good business???. After all, you???ve only got one body.

2.Who Actually Manufactures Your Products & How Can I Contact Them?

We are proud to share that all of our products are made in the United States at All American Pharmaceutical. They are located at 2376 Main Street, Billings, Montana 59105. Since we???ve made them our exclusive manufacturer, we were also able to set up a special ???AAEFX Consumer Awareness Hotline??? at their facility. Call them at 1-406-238-1869 (8:00 am - 5:00 pm MST) to ask questions about anything you might want to know regarding our quality, testing, or just to simply verify our claims.

3.What Is Your Manufacturer???s Current FDA Standing?

The FDA has already designated all American Pharmaceutical as cGMP compliant. In fact, you can download the results of their last FDA inspection on our website.

4.Does Your Manufacturer Test Their Raw Materials, Or Do They Only Rely On Certificates of Analysis Given To Them By Their Suppliers?

Believe it or not, some Certificates of Analysis supplied by raw material suppliers have a disclaimer on them stating that it is ???for information purposes??? and ???should not be a substitute for strict quality control???. Say what?! All of our vendors are required to fill out a 9-page questionnaire and provide us with samples to test. Even though industry standards suggest testing only 1-in-10 barrels, we test them all??? every single barrel??? every time??? it???s non-negotiable. Consider this fact: others manufacturers and supplement companies are buying and using the very same raw materials that we turn away. So guess what you might be getting when you buy products from companies that DON???T test this way?

5.Are Your Products Tested To Verify Their Purity And Potency?

Absolutely. We think you deserve to know that what you put into your body meets labels claims and is drug-free???especially when it comes to our products. That???s why we have them tested both in-house AND also independently to guarantee it beyond a shadow of any doubt.

All American EFX is proud to partner with Buchi Analytical, a Swiss-based world leader in cutting-edge Near Infrared (NIR) Analysis technology. NIR is the same testing method used worldwide by the Pharmaceutical Industry to meet their tough regulatory compliance standards. Unlike traditional testing methods, NIR instantly identifies and verifies every molecule of a product in seconds.

We???ve established another first for our industry by having our products screened independently for drugs. Bioceuticals Research & Development Analytical Laboratory (BR&D), the same lab we use to test our products for purity and potency, also has a contract with the largest sports testing laboratory in the world. This particular lab specializes in independent product screening for hidden contaminants such as narcotics and steroids.

Here???s why they were BR&D???s obvious choice to perform this type of testing:

???For over 40 years they have been a world leader in area of testing nutritional supplements for contamination with drugs and other banned substances.
???Their scientists have collectively published more than 300 scientific papers.
???They have ISO 17025 accreditation for their testing standards
???Their testing data is legally defensible.
???They have a massive 50,000+ square foot facility jammed wall-to-wall with some of the most cutting-edge testing equipment you could ever imagine???accurate enough to test down to the low parts per billion??? and some into the parts per trillion range.
???This independent lab fully screens our products for 16 substances banned by sports regulatory authorities.

Does all this testing cost us more? YES???an average of $3 per bottle! But we simply can???t afford to take chances...and neither can you. All American EFX is a privately held corporation without lenders, venture capitalists, or shareholders who could demand we change our policies to cut costs.

6.Do You Routinely Audit Your Manufacturer To Make Sure They Comply With Your Company???s Quality Standards And Policies?

We visit and fully inspect All American Pharmaceutical a minimum of at least one time each year to ensure they are in full compliance with our ???All American EFX Quality Assurance & Consumer Protection Program???. You can see the results of our last inspection on our website.

7.Do You Perform Toxicology Studies On Your Products To Ensure They Are Safe For Humans?

Even though they are not required (and extremely expensive), we now perform Toxicology tests on every new product we produce. We???ve decided to raise the bar even higher by setting the standard in our industry. We are also now in the process of performing additional Toxicology studies on our existing product line as further insurance and proof of their purity and potency. You can download the results of all our Toxicology tests to date by clinking right here.


We Can???t Do This Alone???

Here is a list of our ???Consumer Protection Program??? Partners:

???All American Pharmaceutical
???Buchi Analytical (This logo is exclusive to All American EFX):
???Bioceuticals Research & Development Analytical Laboratory (This logo a designation is exclusive to All American EFX):
???Better Business Bureau

Whose Fault Is It When You Don???t Get The Results You Hoped For
Due To A Lack Of Testing And Poor Quality?

We Say It???s Your Brand???s Fault!

 

[nkira]

Chobby you LAZY ASS!!

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