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Wks 1-6: Dbol 30-50mg ED
Wks 1-6: Test C 250mg/wk
Wks 7-12: Test C 250-500mg/wk
Wks 1-12: Tren A 500mg/wk

How's that look USMC?

that's alot of tren to start with, 50mg ed or 325mg a week is probably safer. Also the long estered test will take some time to kick in so you may feel "shutdown" for a bit, I would throw in a vial of prop at the front because tren will shut you down fast. Also twelve weeks on tren is loongg. I might consider just running tren the last 8. High dose test might be all you need and will have minimal sides. Something like 1g test E for 12 weeks, maybe an oral up front and probably a fair amount of AI. If you go with a test or test/dbol only cycle (really anything that's not a 19-nor) you can take 10mg of nolva every day and have almost no risk of gyno even if your AI dosage is too low
 
Hey brother if it's your first time I highly suggest you use ace and find your sweet spot. Start at 50mg ED and go from there. What worked good for me was pinning Prop or Enan on a MWF schedule and throwing the tren in when I did those. On the other days use a slin pin and hit your delts with the tren. Made it super easy. Unless you just want to use prop. Another good idea is to use at least 2 different sites like quads and glutes and pin ED.

Something like this would be good IMO:

1-12 Prop 400-600mg/wk
1-8 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-5 Dbol 50mg ED

Don't forget to use HCG and caber along with your AI and everything else you use.


Sloppy, thanks bro...I love prop so that cycle sounds pretty sweet. I have zero issues with pinning quads and glutes, but those damn delts leave me so sore I cant even workout.
 
that's alot of tren to start with, 50mg ed or 325mg a week is probably safer. Also the long estered test will take some time to kick in so you may feel "shutdown" for a bit, I would throw in a vial of prop at the front because tren will shut you down fast. Also twelve weeks on tren is loongg. I might consider just running tren the last 8. High dose test might be all you need and will have minimal sides. Something like 1g test E for 12 weeks, maybe an oral up front and probably a fair amount of AI. If you go with a test or test/dbol only cycle (really anything that's not a 19-nor) you can take 10mg of nolva every day and have almost no risk of gyno even if your AI dosage is too low


Once again bro, thanks for your helps. Man I hope I am half as knowledgable one day as some of you mofos around here.....

You mentioned just running test at a high dose and throwing in an oral of front like d bol. That also sounds pretty good. I ran a prop cycle at 150mg EOD for 10wks with good results. How high do you think I could run it?
 
100mg ED or 200mg EOD? That probably roughly equals 1g of a longer test like enan or cyp
 
Bout to run a 2 part blast/cruise for the same thing pretty much. Going to keep it lean starting first 7 weeks 100mg test prop eod weeks 1-7, m1t 15mg weeks 5-7 and stanodrol weeks 5-7 600mg/day (its a prohormone, converts to a DHT derivative, keeps you dry). weeks 1-23 will be 100mg test enanthate 75mg deca (cruising dose and joint support from deca, I run deca with every cycle) weeks 16-19 75mg Tren ace, 75mg test prop, 75mg mast prop daily, weeks 20-23 100mg test prop, tren ace, mast prop daily, weeks 20-23 30mg Halotestin daily. Adex taken throughout cycle as needed aswell as caber. hcg 1000iu ed weeks 24-26, pct starts week 26 torem/clomid with aromasin at 25mg eod for 6 weeks. But I'm a bit crazy.
 
Hey brother if it's your first time I highly suggest you use ace and find your sweet spot. Start at 50mg ED and go from there. What worked good for me was pinning Prop or Enan on a MWF schedule and throwing the tren in when I did those. On the other days use a slin pin and hit your delts with the tren. Made it super easy. Unless you just want to use prop. Another good idea is to use at least 2 different sites like quads and glutes and pin ED.

Something like this would be good IMO:

1-12 Prop 400-600mg/wk
1-8 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-5 Dbol 50mg ED

Don't forget to use HCG and caber along with your AI and everything else you use.

I like this cycle a lot. I am thinking I would rather use Test E or C and do as you did.

So how does this look?

Wks 1-? Test C 500mg/wk
Wks 1-5 D Bol 50mg ED
Wks 1-8 Tren A 50mg ED

You think I should run the test C for 12 weeks......or longer?

Also, help with a good PCT for this cycle would be great. I already have Clomid and Nolva on hand. Anything else I should throw in? I seem to recover VERY well.

I have been looking around a lot, too and I am thinking I will be using l EK products for this one.
 
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