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Q & A with John Connor Expert AAS advisor

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John in your opinion will everyone that takes AAS eventually be on TRT? What are the main reasons that users seem to end up on TRT at a young age, typically <40?

Is it not waiting enough time between cycles, poor PCT, or heavy usage that contributes to lowering test level's? Or perhaps a combination of those factor's?

It seems like almost everyone who does cycles; even those with proper PCT, there test levels progressively declines after each cycle.
 
John a last thing and I will let you in peace for many many weeks!!!!!

I was reading your article on Super DMZ RX 2.0, I was thinking to try it for a long time and it seems perfect to cut, you'll find below the cycle a bit modified.

1) Aromasin is not necessary since Super DMZ isn't aromatized. Do you confirm it's is not necessary?

2) I added HCG to keep my boys awake during the 4 weeks cycle, 1000 iU/week. is it ok

3) I added Liv-52 in addition of Advance Cycle Support RX, anything else?

4) I added a SERM with Clomid in the PCT for the last 4 weeks 100-75-75-50. Is it enough?

5) You said no water retention???? Really!!!!!???? What about the gains you keep, is the same than for other Testo cycle?

Here is what I read, it was on Superdrol. Can it be compared to Super Dmz RX or is this completely different????

Superdrol works for sure and it's really potent, but as soon as you stop, You're looping all the gains.

I read this : The big problem with Superdrol is that any muscle gained is likely to be lost as soon as the steroid is stopped. This is because the 20lbs isn?t really ?muscle? it is in fact cellular water (which is different from estrogen water retention). The common cycle of Superdrol is a gain of 18lbs and then a loss of 8lbs after the cycle giving you a net gain of only about 10 lbs. This is a problem because everyone knows you are on steroids when you gain 20lbs in 4 weeks, only to lose 15lbs of that 2 weeks later. Unless you like being looked at as a ?roid head? you will want to avoid Superdrol for this reason.



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You will only be able to run the SDMZ about 4-6 weeks max. This is a very short time frame for a cut. I would stack the SDMZ with Testosterone. Your previous cycle layout is fine. Just add the SDMZ the first 4-6 weeks.
 
was reading your article on tren, and how to optimally use it. correct me if im wrong but you said that you prefer to run your test twice as high as your tren. others people say low test/high tren. could you explain the reasoning behind these 2 diff protocols? thankyou

I like more Test to keep energy, libido and mood elevated but depending on your goals you can run Tren higher. I have done this towards the end of a prep to drop water.
 
k thanks bro,
I am looking for something which would help to to increase testosterone and my libido too.
i want to build muscles and libido.

Do u know anything about it, please help me and reply
Its urgent....

Does test-e help to get long lasting testosterone does it help you to get muscle building.
Tell me......
please reply.

Read the following link ---> http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/104658-first-cycle-pct.html

Cialis and Testosterone would make an excellent stack for libido, ED and building muscle.
 
John in your opinion will everyone that takes AAS eventually be on TRT? What are the main reasons that users seem to end up on TRT at a young age, typically <40?

Is it not waiting enough time between cycles, poor PCT, or heavy usage that contributes to lowering test level's? Or perhaps a combination of those factor's?

It seems like almost everyone who does cycles; even those with proper PCT, there test levels progressively declines after each cycle.

Most guys can recover but time off is the biggest factor for successful recovery. I abused steroids for years but did not need HRT until I was 39 years old.
 
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You will only be able to run the SDMZ about 4-6 weeks max. This is a very short time frame for a cut. I would stack the SDMZ with Testosterone. Your previous cycle layout is fine. Just add the SDMZ the first 4-6 weeks.

Thx I will do that but you probably didn "t see that I planned to use Winstrol. 10 weeks of orals will fuck my cholesterol and liver. I will drop winny and lower Test P at 50mg ED

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the effects of testosterone

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one of the most common question i'm asked is "what should i do for a first cycle?" the questions are; ?what steroid should i take?? ?how long should i take it?? and ?what will the effects be?? there are literally dozens of steroids available and that makes it difficult for a first time user to choose. The following information will attempt to provide enough information for a first time user to make an educated decision about anabolic androgenic steroid use.

testosterone is one of the most effective, safe and available steroids today, therefore i believe testosterone is the best first cycle choice. The following text outlines the benefits and risks of testosterone administration based on a clinical human trial of 61 healthy men in 2001. The purpose of the trial was to determine the dose dependency of testosterone?s effects on fat-free mass and muscle performance. In this trial 61 men, 18-35years old were randomized into 5 groups receiving weekly injections of 25, 50, 125, 300, 600 mg of testosterone enanthate for 20 weeks. They had previous weight-lifting experience and normal t levels. Their nutritional intake was standardized and they did not undertake any strength training during the trial. The only two groups that reported significant muscle building benefits were the 300 and 600 mg groups so any dose lower than 300mg will not be considered in this essay. 12 men participated in the 300 mg group and 13 men in the 600 mg group.

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600mg of testosterone a week for 20 weeks resulted in the following benefits. Increased fat free mass, muscle strength, muscle power, muscle volume, hemoglobin and igf-1.

the same 600 mg administration resulted in 2 side effects. Hdl cholesterol was negatively correlated and 2 men developed acne.

the normal range for total t in men is 241-827 ng/dl according to labcorp and 260-1000 ng/dl according to quest laboratories. The normal range for igf-1 is 81-225 according to labcorp. Total t and igf-1 levels were taken after 16 weeks and resulted in the following;

total testosterone
300 mg group-1,345 ng/dl a 691 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-2,370 ng/dl a 1,737 ng increase from baseline

igf-1
300 mg group-388 ng/dl a 74 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-304 ng/dl a 77 ng increase from baseline

body composition was measured after 20 weeks.

fat free mass by underwater weighing
300 mg group-5.2kg (11.4lbs) increase
600 mg group-7.9kg (17.38lbs) increase

fat mass by underwater weighing
300 mg group-.5kg (1.1lbs) decrease
600 mg group-1.1kg (2.42lbs) decrease

thigh muscle volume
300 mg group-84 cubic centimeter increase
600 mg group-126 cubic centimeter increase

quadriceps muscle volume
300 mg group-43 cubic centimeter increase
600 mg group-68 cubic centimeter increase

leg press strength
300 mg group-72.2kg (158.8lbs) increase
600 mg group-76.5kg (168.3lbs) increase

leg power
300 mg group-38.6 watt increase
600 mg group-48.1 watt increase

hemoglobin
300 mg group-6.1 gram per liter increase
600 mg group-14.2 gram per liter increase

plasma hdl cholesterol
300 mg group-5.7 mg/dl decrease
600 mg group-8.4 mg/dl decrease

acne
300 mg group-7 of the 12 men developed acne
600 mg group-2 of the 13 men developed acne

there were no significant changes in psa or liver enzymes at any dose up to 600mg. However, long-term effects of androgen administration on the prostate, cardiovascular risk, and behavior are unknown. The study demonstrated that there is a dose dependent relationship with testosterone administration. In other words the more testosterone administered the greater the muscle building effects and potential for side effects.

given the results of the study and based on years of personal experience i believe the first time user can safely use between 300-600 mg of testosterone enanthate or cypionate per week for 8-12 weeks. Because it is desirable to have even blood androgen levels i advise at least 2 equal injections per week. The following graph demonstrates that testosterone cypionate peaks within 1-2 days after injection and falls off to almost baseline by day 10. Therefore waiting 7 days between injections of cypionate would cause wide fluctuations in blood androgen levels.

pharmacokinetics of testosterone cypionate injection

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source: Schulte-beerbuhl, 1980 figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate. Schulte-beerbuhl m, nieschlag e. Fertility and sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.

if a first time user wanted to use 600 mg of cypionate or enanthate per week he would inject 300 mg on tuesday and another 300 mg on saturday each week for 10 weeks. When injecting long heavy esters like cypionate with this frequency i tend to have less acne then 1 injection per week.

there are a number of esters which provide varying release times. Acetate or propionate esters extend the release time of testosterone a couple of days. In contrast, a deconate ester prolongs the release of testosterone about 3 weeks. Testosterone enanthate and cypionate are almost identical esters. The use of an ester allows for a less frequent injection schedule than using a water based testosterone like suspension which has no ester at all and is rapidly in and out of your system after injection. The published release times are not exact and are many times based on a single injection not many multiple injections which can delay the release of the hormone. Other factors affect release times of esters such as scar tissue and the muscle group injected. Only a blood test can confirm when the active hormone has cleared your system.

esters not only effect release times but also the potency of the testosterone as esters make up part of the steroid weight. This must be taken into account when calculating dosages. The longer the release time the less free hormone. For example propionate is about 15% more potent mg. For mg. Then enanthate so 500mg of propionate would equal about 575 mg. Of enanthate. The following chart illustrates the free base equivalents for several compounds.



although it was not indicated in the trial, during or after the steroid cycle some men are prone to gynecomastia which is the formation of female like breast tissue. This is due to excessive estrogen as the body tries to balance out the sex hormones. A selective estrogen receptor modulator or s.e.r.m. Such as tamoxifen can be used effectively to combat gynecamastia in an emergency as it competes for the estrogen receptor which in turn inhibits estrogen's effects. It is highly recommended that a s.e.r.m. Be available during treatment of testosterone. 10-40mg daily is an effective dose however dosage is dependent on how much testosterone is administered as well as the individual himself.

the decision to use steroids should not be taken lightly and should be the last consideration after implementing a solid nutritional, training and recovery plan. It is advised to get blood work when using these medications.



ancillaries during the cycle



aromatase inhibitor


i briefly wrote about using tamoxifen above for emergency gynecomastia treatment however i'm convinced that there is a better strategy for controlling estrogen during a steroid cycle. Rather than waiting for the side effects of estrogen to present an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex or aromasin should be used on cycle to control estrogen and keep free testosterone levels high. 0.5mg-1mg arimidex every other day or 10-25mg aromasin daily. Start with the lower dose and then see how that controls water retention, blood pressure and libido and make adjustments as needed. a blood test would be the most ideal way to determine the dosage of the ai. Free t needs to be in the high range and estradiol between 10-30 pg/ml.


human chorionic gonadotropin


testosterone-induced gonadotropin suppression tends to cause atrophy of the testes and decreases intratesticular testosterone. In other words, when a male administers testosterone his testes shrink because they are suppressed. A simple way to restore itt levels and maintain the mass of the testes is to administer hcg during testosterone treatment. During a study it was determined that hcg is dose dependent and that approximately 300iu hcg taken every other day restored itt levels. This is 1,050iu hcg weekly. I recommend 500iu twice weekly while on testosterone treatment. Hcg will not only keep itt levels and the mass of the testes normal but will also aid in keeping the male fertile.


sample cycle with ancillaries


sunday 10mg aromasin
monday 10mg aromasin/500iu hcg
tuesday 10mg aromasin/300mg enanthate
wednesday 10mg aromasin
thursday 10mg aromasin
friday 10mg aromasin/500iu hcg
saturday 10mg aromasin/300mg enanthate


for all you guys who want to add multiple compounds to your first course i advise against it because if you have side effects then you will not know which compound is causing the sides. I have gotten a ton of questions over the years and there is always some reason that i'm given for using multiple compounds on the first run but there really is no need. However my cycle sample above may not be for everyone so i am offering an alternative to the flat cycle design. If you want to run a first cycle with a little more horsepower then you may want to consider a modified pyramiding cycle. I have done over 20 pyramid courses and must say they are my favorite way to run aas. The human body is always fighting for homeostasis so the concept is to increase dose before gains plateau. Based on the 2009 myostatin study we can design a cycle that is effective for 10 weeks using this strategy. The following first cycle is for men that want a little more performance with added risk while only using testosterone. The first 5 weeks a standard dose is administered to evaluate how your body responds and to determine if sides are manageable. If sides are manageable then increase the dose.

sample first course #2

week 1-5 600mg testosterone weekly
week 6-8 800mg testosterone weekly
week 9-10 1 gram testosterone weekly

10-25 mg aromasin daily with the goal of keeping estradiol between 10pg/ml-30pg/ml. Only blood work can confirm if you are in this range.

500iu hcg twice weekly.


post cycle therapy


i strongly believe that an ai should be used as long as there is an aromatizing compound being administered. In this case testosterone and hcg aromatize therefore using an ai until these meds clear is what i'm recommending. Nolvadex has been shown to reduce igf-1 and gh levels when used alone. This is not a big deal on cycle as testosterone increases igf-1 in a dose dependent relationship. However off cycle this is may be a problem. Pct is a fragile time and lower igf-1 and gh levels are not desirable. More advanced users may opt to use nolvadex and human growth hormone during pct to counter the hgh lowering effect of nolvedex. However, i'm recommending ai's that may be used on cycle and during pct. It's my conclusion that aromasin or arimidex are both good choices.

i recommend the following pct protocol for esters like cypionate and enanthate;

while the aas ester is clearing : 2500iu hcg every third day for 2 weeks. (you may use less hcg if your testes are normal in size and you have been using hcg on cycle, i.e. 1,000iu hcg every third day.)

100/100/100/50 clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3 after the aas ester clears)

20mg/20mg/20mg aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks)

3g vit c every day split in 3 doses

10g creatine daily

the hcg is administered before the aas ester clears to increase the mass of the testes and bring back itt levels. This will allow the testes to sustain output of testosterone sooner.

clomid is universally accepted as the testosterone recovery tool. It blocks estrogen from the hpta and stimulates the production of gnrh then initiates the production of lh, which in turn signals the testis (if not atrophied) to produce testosterone.

aromasin or a similar aromatase inhibitor is for testosterone recovery and it is used to keep the testosterone/estrogen balance in favor of testosterone. It is also helps to keep any additionally occurring estrogen from hcg low to none.

cortisol is catabolic. It is the enemy of all anabolism and must be kept in check. While it is blocked when under the influence of aas, it is free to attach to the anabolic receptors (ar) once the steroids leave. Due to this blockage cortisol tends to accumulate and increase when on. A low level is desirable however since it is important for other vital functions such as control of inflammation. Balance is the key. Vitamin c keeps the exercise induced rise of cortisol in check.

the use of creatine has shown to increase atp metabolism and cellular water storage among many other things. This is beneficial because it provides for heightened nutrient storage and a slight increase in anabolism as well as workout stamina.

failed post cycle therapy
sometimes a single post cycle therapy is insufficient to restore healthy testosterone levels and a second post cycle therapy may be needed. In that case i would advise a simple clomid hpta restart at 50mg daily for 4-6 weeks.

references
1.testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men;
2.pharmacokinetics and dose finding of a potent aromatase inhibitor, aromasin (exemestane), in young males
3.low-dose human chorionic gonadotropin maintains intratesticular testosterone in normal men with testosterone-induced gonadotropin suppression
4.use of clomiphene citrate to reverse premature andropause secondary to steroid abuse.
5.changes in the endocrinological milieu after clomiphene citrate treatment for oligozoospermia: The clinical significance of the estradiol/testosterone ratio as a prognostic value

6.testicular steroidogenesis after human chorionic gonadotropin desensitization in rats.

7.effect of tamoxifen on gh and igf-1 serum level in stage i-ii breast cancer patients
8.treatment of gynecomastia with tamoxifen: A double-blind crossover study
9.role of testosterone/estradiol ratio in predicting the efficacy of tamoxifen citrate treatment in idiopathic oligoasthenoteratozoospermic men.



special thanks to those men and women who have influnced my thinking over the years in regards to aas use.

written by john connor aka heavyiron
great read heavyiron!
Thank you for taking the time to do this
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We are always hearing that our muscles repair and grow at night not in the gym...so does it make sence then to take an oral (if using any) at bed time?

LM1
 
Hi Heavy I am an aspiring bodybuilder who is 26 years old and 200 pounds. I have done about 5 or 6 cycles now over the last 3 years and have ran stuff like test e, test c, deca, dbol and tren. My question is about having kids. I am really worried that using AAS will not allow me to have kids in the long run, this has been a worry for a while now! I have just done a 16 week cycle of text cyp at 600 mg PW with dbol for first 4 weeks at 30 mg and tren for 5 weeks, I cam off the tren as it was really lowering my sex drive and had to purchase some viagra for a while after! I ran nolva at 20mg ED for the whole cycle as i am prone to gyno and arimidex is too expensive in the UK! For my PCT i waited 2 weeks after last shot and done 100 mg clomid ED for 14 days and nolva 20mg for 40 days, tribulus ED also.

I feel fine at the minute and my boys are full and sex drive is okay, I am now 8 weeks after my last shot!

Really I am wondering your opinion on having kids after AAS and the best thing to do to stay fertile. Would 12 week cycles of 600 mg test cyp for instance with 8 weeks off, with a pct of 20 mg nolva for 40 days and clomid 100 mg for 14 days be sufficient for recovery and fertility in the long run? Or is it better to also add the HCG in for the 2 weeks directly afgter the last AAS shot?

Appreciate your help and time, sorry for the long thread!
 
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We are always hearing that our muscles repair and grow at night not in the gym...so does it make sence then to take an oral (if using any) at bed time?

LM1

Recovery is a key element of body building. We need plenty of rest but I'm not sure the timing of oral AAS will really make much difference. I would just make sure to space out orals during the day if you are worried about it and use an estered oil AAS.
 
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What are the risk of infections getting into the injection site? Example if a person goes fishing in a bay that has lots of bacteria and has injected into the thigh the day before. Is there any risk of bacteria getting into the injection site?
 
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Thanks for the information.
 
HEAVY - could you please give me the differences between NPP vs Deca, and which one you like any why.....

NPP is a fast acting Nandrolone and Deca is a slower acting version due to the longer ester. NPP will spike Nandrolone levels a bit higher mg for mg than Deca. I typically only use low dose Deca but NPP has a terrific following. I guess it really depends on your goals brother.
 
What are the risk of infections getting into the injection site? Example if a person goes fishing in a bay that has lots of bacteria and has injected into the thigh the day before. Is there any risk of bacteria getting into the injection site?
I would say the risk is low. How did it go?
 
Hi Heavy I am an aspiring bodybuilder who is 26 years old and 200 pounds. I have done about 5 or 6 cycles now over the last 3 years and have ran stuff like test e, test c, deca, dbol and tren. My question is about having kids. I am really worried that using AAS will not allow me to have kids in the long run, this has been a worry for a while now! I have just done a 16 week cycle of text cyp at 600 mg PW with dbol for first 4 weeks at 30 mg and tren for 5 weeks, I cam off the tren as it was really lowering my sex drive and had to purchase some viagra for a while after! I ran nolva at 20mg ED for the whole cycle as i am prone to gyno and arimidex is too expensive in the UK! For my PCT i waited 2 weeks after last shot and done 100 mg clomid ED for 14 days and nolva 20mg for 40 days, tribulus ED also.

I feel fine at the minute and my boys are full and sex drive is okay, I am now 8 weeks after my last shot!

Really I am wondering your opinion on having kids after AAS and the best thing to do to stay fertile. Would 12 week cycles of 600 mg test cyp for instance with 8 weeks off, with a pct of 20 mg nolva for 40 days and clomid 100 mg for 14 days be sufficient for recovery and fertility in the long run? Or is it better to also add the HCG in for the 2 weeks directly afgter the last AAS shot?

Appreciate your help and time, sorry for the long thread!
 
I would say the risk is low. How did it go?


Well we go fishing in the Texas bay system's and sometimes get cut on the oyster reef's while wading. I think it should be ok. I was injecting B-12 ED. Do you ever have any results from using B-12? I am injecting 1000mcg (1ML) ED for 30 day's.
 
HEAVY.....how can I lower my Hemocrit......I'm off test for 6 wks.....on blood presure meds , but my hemocrit is 20.1...very high...besides drawing blood what else can I do ?????? Pills, Liquids, Fruit ??? thanks...
 
Heavy, I have something coming out of my butt.. is it a hemorrhoid or Wart from diseased bf?
 
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