I like to drop down the test dose at the end of the cycle to achieve a more "dry" look so that's when I would run the Tren higher than the test. In your case probably around week 8.
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I like to drop down the test dose at the end of the cycle to achieve a more "dry" look so that's when I would run the Tren higher than the test. In your case probably around week 8.
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Basically i know there isn't a wrong way but there is a best way.
I really wanted to know if i should front load the Deca that way i'm not running it longer then the Sust. i wanted to run short cycle of 8wks
Thought i would run
Wks 1-6 416.6Mg-Sust EOD
Wks 1-8 375Mg-Deca EOD
PCT
3-4 Wks after last Deca Pinning 100/100/100/50 clomid
3g. Vit C ED
10g. creatine ED
200IU Vit E
also have Tamoxifen on hand
what would you change?
I really wanted to know if i should front load the Deca that way i'm not running it longer then the Sust. i wanted to run short cycle of 8wks
Thought i would run
Wks 1-6 416.6Mg-Sust EOD
Wks 1-8 375Mg-Deca EOD
PCT
3-4 Wks after last Deca Pinning 100/100/100/50 clomid
3g. Vit C ED
10g. creatine ED
200IU Vit E
also have Tamoxifen on hand
what would you change?
mlconcannon
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Iv'e been training for almost five years I'm,
6'1''
256
20%BF
my first cycle i ran was 12 weeks Ethanate & Trenbolone last pinned 5/1/2011
I'm looking to bulk up be for i start cutting down, reason is I lost a lot of mass after my surgery in 2011.
I think Sust and Deca are excellent bulking compounds. I like my Testosterone dose 2 times higher than my Deca dose to keep libido high.
I personally see no need to front load the deca and would not advise this unless you have a lot of experience with the compound.
mlconcannon
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So do you think if i ran it like this my libido levels wouldn't be better off?
Wks 1-6 500Mg-Deca (Mon&Fri)
Wks 2-3 5006Mg-Sust EOD\4-8 300mg EOD (Mon,Wen & Fri)
Wks 1-6 500Mg-Deca (Mon&Fri)
Wks 2-3 5006Mg-Sust EOD\4-8 300mg EOD (Mon,Wen & Fri)
Not sure what your mg per week is.
mlconcannon
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A totale of 20ML in this cycle (10Ml/Deca/300Mg.Ml) (10Ml/Sust250/250Mg.Ml), I was trying to come up with the best and smartest way to spend it.
Plan
500mg of Decabole per week every Mon&fri for Weeks 1-6
Bring sust in on week two & three @ 500mg per week EOD Mon,Wen&Fri. Drop it down to 300Mg per week EOD Mon,Wen&Fri for Weeks 4-8.
Plan
500mg of Decabole per week every Mon&fri for Weeks 1-6
Bring sust in on week two & three @ 500mg per week EOD Mon,Wen&Fri. Drop it down to 300Mg per week EOD Mon,Wen&Fri for Weeks 4-8.
I like the Sust as high or higher than the Deca and I would not drop down the Sust dose at all. Dropping dose may stall gains.
HardcoreTraining
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Hey John I have some accutane- 10mg pills. What is a good dose to help control some acne?
Thanks for your time and input!!
Thanks for your time and input!!
mlconcannon
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Thanks again for you spot on information John.
20mg Accutane daily for 4-6 months should cure moderate acne.
AlphaMaleDawg
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Thoughts on 30iu humalog MWF along with HGH also MWF run for 14 straight weeks?
15iu log pre workout, 10iu gh post workout...then later in the day another 15iu log
I am no stranger to either gh or slin.
15iu log pre workout, 10iu gh post workout...then later in the day another 15iu log
I am no stranger to either gh or slin.
keith1569
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It worked great for me at that dose. I used it for 6 months
It worked great for me at that dose. I used it for 6 months
Hi John,
I'm about 6 weeks in a Test / NPP cycle. (Test C 200mg + NPP200mg E3D). Gains have been good so far and Im happy but I always wanted to try Tren SOO I just started this: NPP 100mg +Tren Ace 50mg EOD and Ill keep the Test C flowing at 250mg/week (planning on running this for 6 more weeks).
2 Questions:
1. Whats your take on two 19 Nor's together in a cycle
2. Do my doages suck?
I'm about 6 weeks in a Test / NPP cycle. (Test C 200mg + NPP200mg E3D). Gains have been good so far and Im happy but I always wanted to try Tren SOO I just started this: NPP 100mg +Tren Ace 50mg EOD and Ill keep the Test C flowing at 250mg/week (planning on running this for 6 more weeks).
2 Questions:
1. Whats your take on two 19 Nor's together in a cycle
2. Do my doages suck?
dutchmaster454
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What type of physique is achievable without the use of HGH? Only stuff like tren, test, eq, and all other ? I have come very far without GH, and I just want to know if physiques like Arnold is achievable without GH ?
dutchmaster454
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yea buddy ^^^
Standard Donkey
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did arnold use hgh?
i think his physique is very attainable with just aas..
i think his physique is very attainable with just aas..
big recon
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Heavy, I'm getting ready to start 100 mg tren a, test a and mast p eod. Before going into blood work, what do you think I should start out at and at what dosage. Caber,prov??
AlphaMaleDawg
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Genetics determine what is attainable. No two bodies will look the same
s2h
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I bet he uses it now...espc after his bikini moobie pics from a few yrs ago...ya coulda milked him...
H H
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This is just perfect.
spartan1
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Have a question that is very serious..... I need to know why I am having bouts of obstructed vision? It happens randomly w/o any warning. I will try to describe it the best I can but it is hard. It is like when I am looking at something it is clouded with Static or what look like electric worms moving all around what I am looking at. It usually last for about 10 to 15 minutes. It obviously causes anxiety because it looks like what you might see before you pass out. I guess you could also call them stars. It happens 2 maybe 3 times per week and is making me a little concerned. Would just like to know what this is or what could be causing it. I was taking Tren Hex, Test Cyp, and EQ, I was only taking the Tren for the first 10 wks, and it did not happen at that point at all. Started happening around wk 13 or 14, so I started to slowly cut down on the dosage and then dropped the EQ all together and then 3 wks dropped the test that I had taken all the way down to 250 the last 2 wks. *** What is interesting is that I have been off for about 4 wks now and I am still getting them but they are far less frequent.
Please advise
Please advise
I don't like to advise on insulin since its so dangerous. I think your doses are high though.
Tren and Deca together is fine as long as you control E2.
Doses look reasonable brother.
Absolutely, synthetic rhGH was produced after Arnold won the O's. Some earlier versions were around but its highly unlikely he had access to them as the supply of cadaver-GH was very limited.
