Using T3 indefinitely with a healthy thyroid seems unreasonable. Hire a diet coach and you can meet your goals easily.
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hey John is it a good idea to add osta rx to pct? with clomid 100,100,75,50 thanks
1 cap Osta Rx daily is fine but I would not take more than that in PCT.
sscar
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would 1 cap of ostarine during pct suffice in helping with mild/any joint or ligament issues or does this effect from ostarine require a higher dose not recommended for pct???
what problems do you see from using low dose t3 long term. i get no sides or anything fom it really just keeps me lean and cutt. do you really think i will have problems from say 25 or so a day dose of t3? and if so would it be that my own thryroid would not work?
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Heavy, idk if you saw my last question or just havent had the time to get to it yet, its cool no worries, but really looking on your take on benadryl at 50mg everyday causing dementia / brain damage, thanks again!
TheHardOne
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Hey Heavy, whats your take on Deer Antler Spray for gh/igf-1 output?
mynameiscarl
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Hey John, question regarding hCG. Is it better to inject Subq rather than IM? Because from what I've researched, IM seems fine.
So which one would you recommend? Subq or IM?
Whats the difference if we can do it IM and alot of guys are saying Subq only..?
So which one would you recommend? Subq or IM?
Whats the difference if we can do it IM and alot of guys are saying Subq only..?
ldog
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Heavy,
Thanks for all you do. Currently 42 with a solid background in the gym. On TRT with pellets an AI....current T level is 1132 and E2 is 15 as of last week. I'm looking to add an extra boost to my program and am considering a PH. I have no worry about being shutdown. What is your best recommendation and why?
Grateful for your knowledge.
Thanks for all you do. Currently 42 with a solid background in the gym. On TRT with pellets an AI....current T level is 1132 and E2 is 15 as of last week. I'm looking to add an extra boost to my program and am considering a PH. I have no worry about being shutdown. What is your best recommendation and why?
Grateful for your knowledge.
My question is which would you advise for the below situation, m-sten or epi-tren.
Im 6'0 210 at 15%bf. Want to cut down to 10% but not shrink in the process. Im on TRT so shutdown isn't a concern. I want to find my maintenance calories and cycle 6-8 weeks of 50mcg T3 and one of the above. Possibly Gain some muscle while getting leaner. Which compound do you think would do a better job and why
Im 6'0 210 at 15%bf. Want to cut down to 10% but not shrink in the process. Im on TRT so shutdown isn't a concern. I want to find my maintenance calories and cycle 6-8 weeks of 50mcg T3 and one of the above. Possibly Gain some muscle while getting leaner. Which compound do you think would do a better job and why
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What dose would you recommend for liquid cialis? What's your views on it using it pre workout?
Possibly
In a 12 week study, Ostarine showed no difference in bone mineral density compared to placebo. Changes in BMD were not necessarily expected as the treatment period was likely too short to detect a benefit. In preclinical studies, Ostarine demonstrated both anabolic and antiresorptive activity in bone. Future research is warranted as the potential dual beneficial effects of Ostarine and other SARMs on muscle and bone may provide a unique advantage to currently available agents for osteoporosis that solely modify bone strength.
Recovery after years of use happened within a few weeks of cessation of T3 according to these studies. On the net there are tons of people saying you may permanentaly shut down your thyroid with prolonged use of T3 but science says the opposite.
Recovery of pituitary thyrotropic function after withdrawal of prolonged thyroid-suppression therapy.
Vagenakis AG, Braverman LE, Azizi F, Portinay GI, Ingbar SH.
The pattern of thyrotropin secretion was analyzed in seven euthyroid women, before and after withdrawal of long-term thyroid hormone, by serial measurements of thyroid 131l uptake, serum thyroxine, tri-iodothyronine, and thyrotropin concentrations, and the response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone. During exogenous hormone administration, 131l uptake was suppressed, and serum thyrotropin concentrations before and after administration of thyrotropin-releasing hormone were undetectable. After withdrawal of exogenous hormone, thyrotropin secretory function was transiently impaired, as indicated by undetectable basal thyrotropin concentrations together with absence of response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone, and subsequently by normal values of basal thyrotropin concentration and normal responses to releasing hormone while serum thyroxine and tri-iodothyronine concentrations were subnormal. Decreased thyrotropin reserve persisted for two to five weeks. Detectable values of serum thyrotropin (less than 1.2 muU per milliliter) and a normal 131l uptake usually occurred concurrently in two to three weeks. Serum thyroxine concentration returned to normal at least four weeks after hormone withdrawal.
PMID: 808728 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Patterns off recovery of the hypothalamic-pituitary-thyroid axis in patients taken of chronic thyroid therapy.
Krugman LG, Hershman JM, Chopra IJ, Levine GA, Pekary E, Geffner DL, Chua Teco GN.
To determine the patterns of recovery of the hypothalamic-pituitary-thyroid axis following long-term thyroid hormone therapy, TRH tests were performed on 8 euthyroid nongoitrous patients, 5 euthyroid goitrous patients, and 5 hypothyroid patients while they were taking full doses of thyroid hormone and 3, 7, 10, 14, 17, 21, 28, 35, 42, 49, and 56 days after stopping it. Serum TSH, T3, and T4 were measured before and at multiple intervals over a 4-h period after giving 500 mug TRH iv. In euthyroid non-goitrous patients, the mean duration of suppressed TSH response to TRH (maximum deltaTSH less than 8 muU/ml) was 12 +/- 4 (SE) days after stopping thyroid hormone and the mean time to recovery of normal TSH response to TRH (maximum deltaTSH greater than 8 muU/ml) was 16 +/- 5 days. None of the euthyroid nongoitrous patients ever hyperresponded to TRH; their average maximal deltaTSH was 24.5 +/- 2.2 muU/ml. Serum T4 fell below normal in 4 euthyroid non-goitrous patients, reaching lowest values at 4 to 28 days. While serum T4 was low, deltaTSH was subnormal. Normal increments of T4 and T3 after TRH occurred at 19 +/- 5 and 22 +/- 6 days, respectively. In the 5 goitrous patients, patterns of recovery of pituitary and thyroid function assessed by the same parameters were much less consistent. In the 5 hypothyroid patients, the mean duration of suppressed basal TSH and suppressed deltaTSH was 13 +/- 3 days; mean time to attain a supranormal basal TSH (greater than 8 muU/ml) was 16 +/- 4 days and to reach a supranormal deltaTSH (greater than 38 muU/ml) after TRH was 29 +/- 8 days. Following prolonged thyroid therapy in euthyroid patients, recovery of normal TSH responsiveness to TRH preceded recovery of the normal T3 and T4 response to TRH by 3 to 6 days. Basal serum TSH may be used to differentiate euthyroid from hypothyroid patients 35 days after withdrawal of thyroid therapy; the response to TRH does not improve this differentiation.
PMID: 807596 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Either is fine, subq may have a slower onset of action but the HCG will still perform as normal once it enters your blood stream.
SDMZ3 is a strong designer that you can use for added performance. 1 cap daily is fine for your goals. After a few weeks you may consider 2 caps daily.
http://www.ironmaglabs.com/product-list/super-dmz-rx-3/
M-STEN will likely add more LBM.
When stacking you will absolutely get more effect.
Its irrelevant whether its in liquid or solid form.
I like 20 mg EOD myself. Pre training is fine for an improved pump.
Any issues with prolonged use?
I'm using 25mgs ed preworkout and I am being told that I am asking for trouble. I get no bad sides and actually my bp is still slightly high at 144/90.
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Can anyone help me with some questions about sarms1 cutting stack
Was planning on using dbol at 40mg a day to kickstart a 12 week test E cycle. Been readin a lot about msten and seems like a better choice . Doesn't aromatize,same Stength gains, and lean tissue with gains as much as 8-12lbs with no bloat at the same dosage. I've never used either so wondering your thoughts ? One thing to note is I aromatize VERY easily and get gyno very easily. From trt BW I know I get gyno onset when my E2 hits 50, and at only 200mg a week of trt I take 12.5mg a day of exemestane and stay in range.
oldschoolman51
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can't produce testosterone..
LengthHello john..any advice would be greatly appreciate..I can't produce almost any testosterone due to testicles issue..one missing one severaly damaged...I'm 51 ..52 in April..been on text..ands. equipose..for few months..with arimadex....tried tren..love it..could you recommend a plan to gain size....strength..still want to compete..
LengthHello john..any advice would be greatly appreciate..I can't produce almost any testosterone due to testicles issue..one missing one severaly damaged...I'm 51 ..52 in April..been on text..ands. equipose..for few months..with arimadex....tried tren..love it..could you recommend a plan to gain size....strength..still want to compete..
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Heavy do you have any experience with Prami? I am dosing for prolactin control and so far i've taken .1mg - .2mg before bed, I notice initially it makes me a little drowsy but then after an hour i get really really bad insomnia to the point where i will lay in bed all night and not fall asleep at all just lay there with my eyes closed until i have to get up in the AM.
The other thing i notice is that it seems to make my orgasms stronger and i shoot bigger loads. Ever heard of these issues before?
The other thing i notice is that it seems to make my orgasms stronger and i shoot bigger loads. Ever heard of these issues before?
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oh its definitely legit, i took a large dose my first time .5mg because i messed up conversions, next day i had flu like symptoms for about 24 hours. I guess i am just a person that is sensitive to Prami. Shout out to JERZ!!! lol just being jersey obnoxious
Since men are often prescribed it for years I cannot imagine many issues but you should consult a doctor that's familiar with you.
Sure, tell us your stats and goal.
