Question about mix

[Hlanderr]

Now this is a real newb question....

What exactly are the oats?
I want to put them into my protein shakes as many of you have recommended it.... but I'm not really sure what to look for in the supermarket. Is it just a large thing of.... oats? Any products with better quality?

 

[GFR]

old fashioned Quaker Oats
not quick oats

 

[Hlanderr]

cool..... ill get some tommarow

how much is it also? and do you get a lot of servings out of it?
and how does measuring go? For strength gains would one scoop work with one scoop of protein pwder?


and eating them raw doesnt make you have a digestion issue?

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Quick oats are fine - especially if you are going to be grinding them in a shake.

It is the instant oats you want to generally stay away from (these have added sugar and other things).

how much is it also? and do you get a lot of servings out of it? and how does measuring go? For strength gains would one scoop work with one scoop of protein pwder?

1/ it depends on where you buy them and how much you buy
2/ it depends on how much you buy and how much you have in a serving
3/ measure it raw with a measuring cup or a digital scale. Generally 1 american cup = 80g
4/ for strength gains you need a good training program with a good nutritional intake. Whether or not you eat oats is not really a factor... But now much you want would depend on your size, when you were eating it, what else you had eaten during the day, what your BF% was, your age... etc etc

and eating them raw doesnt make you have a digestion issue?

No. As long as they are rolled oats (and not whole or scotch oats) then you can eat them raw.

From this post:

when you say add oats, do you mean like take the oats i would boil for breakfest and simply pour them raw into my protein drink?

I am not following

Depends what oats you use for your breakfast.

If you use scotch oats/irish oats/steel cut oats (all different names for the same thing) or whole oats then you need to cook these before you eat them. So don't add these to your shake raw.

If you use thick wholegrain rolled oats then these have already been steamed and rolled once. So they have been 'cooked' before you get them and can be eaten straight as they are. So you can grind them up in a blender and then add them to your protein powder to create a 'carb powder'.

Same thing for quick oats. Quick oats are rolled oats that have been steamed a second time and chopped into smaller peices - which makes them easier to cook when you get them. And these can also be used when ground to add carbs to a shake.

The raw quick oats, because they have been steamed twice, are slightly easier to digest than the wholegrain rolled oats - so if you have trouble with uncooked rolled oats then you can try quick oats.

If you are not sure which oats you are eating then you can click on this link --> Different types of oats.

Other threads on the same topic:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=43336&highlight

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=54335&highlight

 

[GFR]

Very true.

You increase the surface area of the oats when you grind them - which means there are more sites for your digestive enzymes to 'target' - so it becomes easier to digest and the glycaemic index goes up.

This is also one of the main reasons why quick oats have a higher GI - because they are smaller than regular rolled oats. They are also steamed a second time (where as rolled oats are only steamed once) and this also slightly increases the GI.


ps: There is nothing 'wrong' with quick oats. If the choice was between quick oats and lucky-charms then you are 100 bazillion times better off with quick oats!! It is just a matter of 'best choice' v's 'not as good'.

In terms of fibre, nutrients and glycaemic index, your better choices are always things that are the least processed - so the order would go:
scotch oats, thick cut wholegrain rolled oats, quick oats and then instant oats...

But, as Tough Old Man correctly states - sometimes a slightly higher GI/speed of digestion is advantageous - such as immediately PWO. And in this case you would consider quick oats a better choice than your scotch oats.


Just do what works best for you!

Ok I'm confused Are quick oats as good as old fashioned Quaker Oats or just close enough not to matter??

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Ok I'm confused Are quick oats as good as old fashioned Quaker Oats or just close enough not to matter??

The difference between them is minimal. Both are dehulled and them steamed and rolled once. The quick oats are then just chopped a little finer and steamed a second time.

Sure, they will lose a little more phyto-nutrients and other healthy benefits (due to the extra steaming) and they will have a slightly higher GI due to the smaller particle size... But the difference in GI is not huge and is only really of concern if you are talking about eating the oats in isolation more than 5-6 hrs after any solid meal. Once it is combined with fats, fibre and protein, and when you already have food in your intestines, then the GI difference is a non-issue.

So if you think that the reason why your diet may not be working is because "you are having quick oats rather than thick oats", then you are probably mistaken. Most people have MANY, MANY things they can improve first before even having to think about this level of detail. And most people, realistically, do not even have to think about this level of detail to reach extremely low BF% (you think of the competitors pre-GI knowledge - or all those competitors who still eat white potato and white rice - they all still managed to 'get ripped'!!).

BUT - with that said - I would still recommend quick oats PWO in favour of old fashioned rolled oats and I would still recommend old-fashioned oats in favour of quick oats at other times. Simply because thick cut oats are tastier ( ) and because quick oats do have that slight advantage and because thick-cut oats are that little bit better in terms of phytronutrients and they are that little bit better for holding satiety (and thus they help make dieting easier)...

 

[GFR]

That is what I was thinking.... quick oats taste so much better



**Emma says - OOPS!! Damn it - I hit edit instead of reply!! Argggg... Sorry!! **

 

[Emma-Leigh]

That is what I was thinking.... quick oats taste so much better

LOL - no way!! Give me thick cut oats EVERY TIME!

Even better - oat bran (yes, call me weird)!! It is sooooo tasty as a porridge... and scotch oats are even better!!

 

[Hlanderr]

thanks a bunch for the info

going to the supermarket today to get oatified









delicious oatified that is

 

[Hlanderr]

i got a big y brand old fashioned oat thing

earlier you mentioned that whole oats is bad.... i think these are whole oats... can i still eat them raw?

already had a shake with it too..... not bad at all.... i think i put way too much in it though as im pretty muchs cooping oats from the bottom.... but the oats kinda make the shake interesting.... aha

they say rolled, but i think they are whole too


thanks

 

[Emma-Leigh]

i got a big y brand old fashioned oat thing

earlier you mentioned that whole oats is bad.... i think these are whole oats... can i still eat them raw?

Do the oats look like rice (or chopped rice)? If it looks like rice, then it is raw and you will need to cook it.

If it looks flat like the stuff in muesli/granola then it is rolled/steamed and it can be eaten raw. Also, if it says 'rolled' then I would image then they are 'Rolled oats'... And this means that they can be eaten raw.

 

[Hlanderr]

cool.... they must be rolled then

thanks a lot man

 

[boilermaker]

**Emma Grabs her 'cyber balls' and squashes a beer can on her head**

Guess it's time to slam that beer and reach for them again Emma.

 

[BigDyl]

**Emma has cybersex with bigdyl while giving him dietary tips... **bigdyl dies of extreme pleasure