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Question for z experts: possible bad gear

I havent been able to find one worth keeping yet but im also only 22. Theres to many females out there i cant make up my mind which one i want.:roflmao:
 
I havent been able to find one worth keeping yet but im also only 22. Theres to many females out there i cant make up my mind which one i want.:roflmao:

i'm 32 and still in the same boat bro. it doesn't get easier. got a keeper now though. (course i've said that a dozen other times) just gotta punch that little red devil off my shoulder and do what i know is good for me. stupid tempting devil.
 
i'm 32 and still in the same boat bro. it doesn't get easier. got a keeper now though. (course i've said that a dozen other times) just gotta punch that little red devil off my shoulder and do what i know is good for me. stupid tempting devil.


That lil red devil sure ain't on your shoulder- it is down between you legs just due south of your abs. :rolleyes: If that puppy is on your shoulder- you are going to have way too many happy gals and you will never stay with just one:(
 
i'm 32 and still in the same boat bro. it doesn't get easier. got a keeper now though. (course i've said that a dozen other times) just gotta punch that little red devil off my shoulder and do what i know is good for me. stupid tempting devil.

If your going to do what you know is good for you then buy more gear lol.gym comes first then the women will come.remember girls like guys in shape.plus nothing is better then a little more test in your blood for a long crazy night if you know what I mean lol.
 
If your going to do what you know is good for you then buy more gear lol.gym comes first then the women will come.remember girls like guys in shape.plus nothing is better then a little more test in your blood for a long crazy night if you know what I mean lol.

OK............this has to be said. Sure..........women like this and they like that. The the BIGGEST .................#1..................thing they absolutely LOVE...............is .........here it comes ................MONEY $$$$. No matter how old/young/ big tits- samll tits- nice ass - long legged graet PUSSY- they all LOVE MONEY. The rest is just a bonus for them. Ya got $$$ - ya got pussy. To prove that I am absolutely correct- turn on your tube and look at Donald Ugly MF ( but rich) Trump.Ok- now I have totaly ruined the OPs thread and for that I am sorry.Just had to say it.
 
That lil red devil sure ain't on your shoulder- it is down between you legs just due south of your abs. :rolleyes: If that puppy is on your shoulder- you are going to have way too many happy gals and you will never stay with just one:(

lol i hear ya. my girl loves it when i'm on test. unless i'm away from her for an evening. then she just pictures me running rampant like some horny teenager, chasing everything with tits. in that way, too much test may work against you. she's cool though luckily so it's not that big a deal :)
 
Smoke & Prayers sent to your GF- be strong- be positive and be sure to tell her exactly how important she is to you each and every day. Life is short- We are here for a GOOD time-NOT a LONG time. I am fine- it costs me most of my vision- but I a still here hanging out with you youngters. Alo doesn't hurt to remind her how beatiful she is daily. This support is importnat to her- try it and you will see what I mean. It can be tough- but she will be fine. Thanks

You still have eyesight in one eye though right?

Yea my girlfriend's surgery went good, she was in pain for a few days but at least they got it out.

Hope you stay healthy bro. God Bless.
 
You still have eyesight in one eye though right?

Yea my girlfriend's surgery went good, she was in pain for a few days but at least they got it out.

Hope you stay healthy bro. God Bless.

Yes-one eye is hand motion ( HM) and the other is a very narrow field and very low vision. But-I do pretty good.Plus I have a weird sense of humor.Now that they have her tumor out- you want to watch the pain doesn't become a problem. I kid around guys- but I have ben married to the same lady for longer than you guys are old. So-take care of those gals - pussy is great - but so is respect. And also making sure they are healthy. Your girlfriend will be fine- but she needs YOUR support more than eve:winkfinger:r-Thanks
 
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What a crock of shit z shit is 100% potent ass stuff op you are a fucking moron. I get blood work done before and while on his gear no way bunk gear gets my testosterone level 7x higher then the average person.This is just a z hater talking shit we all know z has good gear
 
I had a problem with my dbol and I have to say z got on it like a fly on shit lol.he emailed me right away and is fixing it right as we speak.zzz also good in my book.

That's good to hear - in know it's important to Z to make sure his products are spot-on as they go out to customers.
 
I agree- he is right on top of everthing- but at times is out of his hands with USPS so a guy needs be patient.I ship intl daily and it is a pain in the ass.ZZZ gets it done though !!
 
What a crock of shit z shit is 100% potent ass stuff op you are a fucking moron. I get blood work done before and while on his gear no way bunk gear gets my testosterone level 7x higher then the average person.This is just a z hater talking shit we all know z has good gear

Yeah with this moron did his research and knows that your ass got kicked off of outlaw muscle. Why was that? HUH? See told you I'm not bashing thats why I wont go further. But you know the details. It's no secret you work for z, so your opinion really doesnt fucking count. I'll run my own blood test and make my own decisions. If it turns out ligit. Ill announce it.
 
Pere84, im sure u will find a lab blood test to show u have nandrolone decanoate in your body... it may not be the full potency dosage u expect, but u take a risk when dealing with non-pharma manufacturing entity's. Z provides a product which is decent and safe for delivery, and so its worth it to most extents. however if u are so unsure about your decision, then its best to peacefully decide to buy brand name things like Organon from Z's international line or elsewhere, and basically stay away from UG (underground) lab products.
 
Hey Guys- I have actually done very well when testing Zs UGLs against my RX stuff. Now-I am just talking " some" of the oils- cyp-eth-sus etc. But my test levels were extreme mg for mg on my bloodwork. One has to remember that my RX gear is 200 mg/ml and some of my Z is 250/300 mg/ml.As for the HG-I cannot answer yet as I have that on order and will be playing with that soon.Plus- I always have to let my system clear which I hate-get a baseline and then time it so I am close to my ditch / trough and whack the bloods again. At this point I can almost tell you exactly whether gear is dosed correctly or over dose. ( mg) I have my blood results all laid out as recently I did test some gaer ( NOT FROM Z) that did absolutely nothing to me. I used a well known UGL and I tested out of 5 different jugs.At any rate- as you know, I am not questioning any results- just tossing that out there-Thnaks
 
Z has been in this game for so long i can't possibly see him starting to sell bunk gear. I think tests would provide a great deal of benefits for both customers and Z himself.
 
Z has been in this game for so long i can't possibly see him starting to sell bunk gear. I think tests would provide a great deal of benefits for both customers and Z himself.

how many times i've heard friends talk about how they bought great "weed" and then they bought bunk "weed". the thing is that even the bunk "weed" is still "weed" and has some active ingredient but is just low dose. same thing, and i think this is what the original poster had in mind with this thread
 
Z has been in this game for so long i can't possibly see him starting to sell bunk gear. I think tests would provide a great deal of benefits for both customers and Z himself.

If one person is not satified, no concern at all.

If dozens of people are not satisfied, would be a concern.
 
how many times i've heard friends talk about how they bought great "weed" and then they bought bunk "weed". the thing is that even the bunk "weed" is still "weed" and has some active ingredient but is just low dose. same thing, and i think this is what the original poster had in mind with this thread

Good post- except I am not seeing enough ( if any) differance in my RX gear and Zs UGL. I have seen the kind of gear from other sources that would qualify as " bunk weed" .Maybe like me getting drunk on Night Train- and you getting drunk on very expensive whiskey- IMO- we are both drunk- and that is what we wanted in the first place. For purity reasons-I can understand- maybe I am missing something and you can help me out here.I am not flaming- jus asking. As in " discussion".Thanks:winkfinger:
 
If one person is not satified, no concern at all.

If dozens of people are not satisfied, would be a concern.

Another great post- I would lean more towards the " dozens" - as you know there are some really lame ass folks out there. And this IS the INTERNET.(LOL)
 
There are ways how you can isolate powder from the oil if you wanted to perform melting tests on the solid to determine its purity.
 
??? pere84 ?? that is what I was wondering. I was just saying " Howdy" to him and ninja and tossing some thoughts out there. IDK
 
There are ways how you can isolate powder from the oil if you wanted to perform melting tests on the solid to determine its purity.

Yes- but I " think" you need some lab equipment and maybe a melt bar ( ??) I have access to my friend that runs a lab- but mostly he checks my blood when I want to make sure I have bottomed out on my test readings. He has done some other work for me- but I don't like to ask him to do it.If anybody has ideas on how I can test better- or what equpment to purchase-I am all for it- just let me know here or via PM. I like to play with this stuff
 
There are ways how you can isolate powder from the oil if you wanted to perform melting tests on the solid to determine its purity.

the freezer test..Although i have never done this but have heard stories on it something like the testosterone will cloud in the oil when reached at a certain temp..
 
Yes- but I " think" you need some lab equipment and maybe a melt bar ( ??) I have access to my friend that runs a lab- but mostly he checks my blood when I want to make sure I have bottomed out on my test readings. He has done some other work for me- but I don't like to ask him to do it.If anybody has ideas on how I can test better- or what equpment to purchase-I am all for it- just let me know here or via PM. I like to play with this stuff


Well if your friend works at the lab, i am sure he knows a technique called extraction. In essence you add bases/acids to your oil to get the compound from organic layer into AQ, having only your compound transfer without BB or oil, then you just evaporate water and you got your solid ready for melt point testing.
 
I am on the Z-line domestic test-C at 600mg a week and love it. I am 32yrs old and have the sex drive of a stoned test bunny (like a 16yr old boy). I give nothing but great props to Z and his products.
 
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Well if your friend works at the lab, i am sure he knows a technique called extraction. In essence you add bases/acids to your oil to get the compound from organic layer into AQ, having only your compound transfer without BB or oil, then you just evaporate water and you got your solid ready for melt point testing.

Yes- he has done that- but I can't take advantage too much. I have my blood ran at mt doc 4-5 times per year-and he has been kind enough to help me on that also. But- I have also given him gear for a fast test- just to see if it is pure crap or contains actual the product. He let me know it is just a very crude test so I don't waste my time. I don't want to stress the friendship-I am sure you know where I am coming from by your avatar. Is there any test gaer I can buy for at home ? Are you a lab tech or ? Thanks
 
Yes- he has done that- but I can't take advantage too much. I have my blood ran at mt doc 4-5 times per year-and he has been kind enough to help me on that also. But- I have also given him gear for a fast test- just to see if it is pure crap or contains actual the product. He let me know it is just a very crude test so I don't waste my time. I don't want to stress the friendship-I am sure you know where I am coming from by your avatar. Is there any test gaer I can buy for at home ? Are you a lab tech or ? Thanks


I am biochem undergrad, you can just youtube "extraction experiment organic chemistry" you will have a bunch of videos explaining exactly what the procedure is and how it is done. The only tricky part would be getting some acid.
 
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