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randy coutoure vs bruce lee
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bruce lee hands down.
With or without weapons?
I'm sorry, but you aren't pulling this off...
It is impossible for you to sound stupid enough to pull that off.
Both at peak I might say Bruce. In the navy we used to spar full contact style with pads in the gym locker room. This filipino guy was really quick and bouncy very hard to get hold of to ground & pound. I'd imagine as quick and in such good cardio shape Bruce would bounce and wear Randy down effectively and if he could get one of those sidekicks in ouch....
Randy. I have all the respect in the world for Bruce Lee but he is not a fighter of today.
Fedor would massacre them both.
Randy would destroy lee.
Bruce Lee would get killed by an average modern day MMA fighter. They are just way more well rounded.
Randy would destroy lee.
Bruce Lee would get killed by an average modern day MMA fighter. They are just way more well rounded.
Randy is a great fighter, I just don't think he'd beat Lee.
Le''s speed and accuracy were just too much.
Le''s speed and accuracy were just too much.
Bruce is dead so Randy should have no problem with him. Now if Bruce were alive, I don't think it would even be a contest, Kato would kill him five times before Randy hit the floor.
Anyone who thinks lee would win is obviously not very knowledgable when it comes to MMA.
Almost every single person who knows Randy would win, like myself, studies MMA, watches it, and practices it.
Almost every single person who knows Randy would win, like myself, studies MMA, watches it, and practices it.
The one that isnt dead, dipshit.
I don't know, the one that is dead would probably take a punch a lot better. Besides, if you have ever watched any zombie movies you would know that the dead are really, really strong. Add Bruce Lee's speed to the zombie strength and you have an unbeatable fighter.
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Bruce Lee. Far too quick and agile, plus better technique. Not to mention pound for pound, probably packs more of a strike. One inch punch anyone?
Well I just want to say. As far as a more well rounded fighter Randy Couture hands down, but Bruce didn't have the MMA we have today.
However I think Bruce would win with a quick shot to the nuts.
Bruce was a dirty fighter.
However I think Bruce would win with a quick shot to the nuts.
Bruce was a dirty fighter.
Bruce invented Mixed Martial Arts
Lee was a martial artist, instructor, actor, and founder of the Jeet Kune Do martial arts system. He is widely regarded as one of the most influential and famous martial artists of all time. He is also widely known as the greatest icon of martial arts cinema and a key figure of modern popular culture. In the martial arts folklore, he is considered by many to be the greatest martial artist of all time, including karate legend Joe Lewis and Davis Miller.
Lee's films elevated the traditional Hong Kong martial arts film to a new level and sparked a greater interest in Chinese martial arts in the West. Lee also became iconic to the Chinese, as he portrayed Chinese national pride and Chinese nationalism in his movies. His pioneering efforts paved the way for future martial artists and martial arts actors such as Jackie Chan, Jet Li and Chuck Norris, bringing martial arts films and actors to the mainstream.
Many see Lee as a model blueprint for acquiring a strong and efficient body as well as developing a mastery of martial arts and hand to hand combat skills. Lee began the process of creating his own fighting system known as Jeet Kune Do. Bruce Lee's evaluation of traditional martial arts doctrines is now seen as one of the first steps into popularizing the modern style of mixed martial arts.
Dan Inosanto, another of Lee's close friends and himself an instructor in Lee's art, adds that Lee was only interested in strength that could readily be converted to power. "I remember once Bruce and I were walking along the beach in Santa Monica, out by where the 'Dungeon' (an old-time bodybuilding gym) used to be," recalls Inosanto, "when all of a sudden this big, huge bodybuilder came walking out of the Dungeon and I said to Bruce, 'Man, look at the arms on that guy!' I'll never forget Bruce's reaction, he said 'Yeah, he's big -- but is he powerful? Can he use that extra muscle efficiently?"
Power, according to Lee, lay in an individual's ability to use the strength developed in the gym quickly and efficiently; in other words, power was the measure of how quickly and effectively one could summon and coordinate strength for "real-world" purposes. On this basis, according to those who worked out with Lee from time to time such as martial arts actor Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee -- pound for pound-- might well have been one of the most powerful men in the world.
Unbelievable Strength
Lee's feats of strength are the stuff of legend; from performing push-ups - on one hand! - or thumbs only pushups, to supporting a 125-pound barbell at arms length in front of him (with elbows locked) for several seconds, or sending individuals (who outweighed him by as much as 100 pounds in some instances) flying through the air and landing some 15 feet away as a result of a punch that Lee delivered from only one-inch away, the power that Bruce Lee could generate -- at a mere bodyweight of 135 pounds -- is absolutely frightening. Not to mention some of his other nifty little habits like thrusting his fingers through full cans of Coca-Cola and sending 300 pound heavy bags slapping against the ceiling with a simple side kick.
Strength training -- qua strength training -- was Lee's primary objective with resistance exercise. Later, as we shall soon see, his training evolved into more specialized applications that were beneficial to his specific goals as a martial artist. But before we get to there, let's first take a look at how Lee was first drawn to bodybuilding.
Ideals & Possibilities
For a number of years, Lee had made a concerted study of exercise physiology and anatomy. Refusing to merely accept tradition for tradition's sake - a stance that made him increasingly unpopular with the majority of his fellow martial artists who had been raised and were now in the process of passing on (without questioning) the various martial traditions of the East -- Lee's background in physiology and kinesiology had imbued him with the ability to discern a useful exercise from an unproductive one and therefore he was able to avoid the obstacle of wasted time in any of his workouts. Lee believed that the student of exercise science should aim at nothing less than physical perfection, with all that it implies in its totality; he should want great strength, great speed, great coordination, exuberant health, and, by no means least, the muscular beauty of form which distinguishes a physically perfect human being. To Lee, the whole secret of success in bodybuilding lay in the principle of progressive resistance, but he also recognized that there was another component that had won a place in the vocabulary of physical culture and that word was persistence.
Knowledge Is Power:
For the past seven years I've been hard at work compiling all (and I mean ALL) of Bruce Lee's training programs, notes and annotations on physical training for a book series that, like Lee's training methods, has proved to be constantly evolving (the training material has been presented in the book entitled The Art of Expressing The Human Body, Tuttle Publishing, Boston). And what amazes me after having looked through all of his materials is just how thorough his knowledge of training actually was. Lee collected over 140 books on bodybuilding, weight training, physiology and kinesiology during his lifetime, in addition to well over 2,000 books on philosophy and the martial arts. Lee believed that you could never know "too much" about a subject that could benefit your health and he lived his entire life trying to acquire as much knowledge about health and fitness as he could.
Although Lee is no longer with us, his teachings and his example live on. Certainly this is so in the realm of exercise science. Lee epitomized the athletic ideals of diligence, hard work, bearing up under adversity and refusing to short-change either oneself or one's potential. "Low aim is the biggest crime a man can commit," he once told Tae Kwon Do Master, Jhoon Rhee. "Remember, Life is a journey, not a destination."
The Roman philosopher Seneca once said that, "Life, if thou knowest how to use it, is long enough." If this is so, then Bruce Lee's life was long enough to be a fulfilling one, perhaps - given what he accomplished and the enduring influence of his example -- it might just be considered one of the more meaningful lives of the twentieth century. And it was Lee's commitment to excellence - and to a principled approach to training - that resulted in the creation of one of the greatest physiques in modern history.
Lee was a martial artist, instructor, actor, and founder of the Jeet Kune Do martial arts system. He is widely regarded as one of the most influential and famous martial artists of all time. He is also widely known as the greatest icon of martial arts cinema and a key figure of modern popular culture. In the martial arts folklore, he is considered by many to be the greatest martial artist of all time, including karate legend Joe Lewis and Davis Miller.
Lee's films elevated the traditional Hong Kong martial arts film to a new level and sparked a greater interest in Chinese martial arts in the West. Lee also became iconic to the Chinese, as he portrayed Chinese national pride and Chinese nationalism in his movies. His pioneering efforts paved the way for future martial artists and martial arts actors such as Jackie Chan, Jet Li and Chuck Norris, bringing martial arts films and actors to the mainstream.
Many see Lee as a model blueprint for acquiring a strong and efficient body as well as developing a mastery of martial arts and hand to hand combat skills. Lee began the process of creating his own fighting system known as Jeet Kune Do. Bruce Lee's evaluation of traditional martial arts doctrines is now seen as one of the first steps into popularizing the modern style of mixed martial arts.
Dan Inosanto, another of Lee's close friends and himself an instructor in Lee's art, adds that Lee was only interested in strength that could readily be converted to power. "I remember once Bruce and I were walking along the beach in Santa Monica, out by where the 'Dungeon' (an old-time bodybuilding gym) used to be," recalls Inosanto, "when all of a sudden this big, huge bodybuilder came walking out of the Dungeon and I said to Bruce, 'Man, look at the arms on that guy!' I'll never forget Bruce's reaction, he said 'Yeah, he's big -- but is he powerful? Can he use that extra muscle efficiently?"
Power, according to Lee, lay in an individual's ability to use the strength developed in the gym quickly and efficiently; in other words, power was the measure of how quickly and effectively one could summon and coordinate strength for "real-world" purposes. On this basis, according to those who worked out with Lee from time to time such as martial arts actor Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee -- pound for pound-- might well have been one of the most powerful men in the world.
Unbelievable Strength
Lee's feats of strength are the stuff of legend; from performing push-ups - on one hand! - or thumbs only pushups, to supporting a 125-pound barbell at arms length in front of him (with elbows locked) for several seconds, or sending individuals (who outweighed him by as much as 100 pounds in some instances) flying through the air and landing some 15 feet away as a result of a punch that Lee delivered from only one-inch away, the power that Bruce Lee could generate -- at a mere bodyweight of 135 pounds -- is absolutely frightening. Not to mention some of his other nifty little habits like thrusting his fingers through full cans of Coca-Cola and sending 300 pound heavy bags slapping against the ceiling with a simple side kick.
Strength training -- qua strength training -- was Lee's primary objective with resistance exercise. Later, as we shall soon see, his training evolved into more specialized applications that were beneficial to his specific goals as a martial artist. But before we get to there, let's first take a look at how Lee was first drawn to bodybuilding.
Ideals & Possibilities
For a number of years, Lee had made a concerted study of exercise physiology and anatomy. Refusing to merely accept tradition for tradition's sake - a stance that made him increasingly unpopular with the majority of his fellow martial artists who had been raised and were now in the process of passing on (without questioning) the various martial traditions of the East -- Lee's background in physiology and kinesiology had imbued him with the ability to discern a useful exercise from an unproductive one and therefore he was able to avoid the obstacle of wasted time in any of his workouts. Lee believed that the student of exercise science should aim at nothing less than physical perfection, with all that it implies in its totality; he should want great strength, great speed, great coordination, exuberant health, and, by no means least, the muscular beauty of form which distinguishes a physically perfect human being. To Lee, the whole secret of success in bodybuilding lay in the principle of progressive resistance, but he also recognized that there was another component that had won a place in the vocabulary of physical culture and that word was persistence.
Knowledge Is Power:
For the past seven years I've been hard at work compiling all (and I mean ALL) of Bruce Lee's training programs, notes and annotations on physical training for a book series that, like Lee's training methods, has proved to be constantly evolving (the training material has been presented in the book entitled The Art of Expressing The Human Body, Tuttle Publishing, Boston). And what amazes me after having looked through all of his materials is just how thorough his knowledge of training actually was. Lee collected over 140 books on bodybuilding, weight training, physiology and kinesiology during his lifetime, in addition to well over 2,000 books on philosophy and the martial arts. Lee believed that you could never know "too much" about a subject that could benefit your health and he lived his entire life trying to acquire as much knowledge about health and fitness as he could.
Although Lee is no longer with us, his teachings and his example live on. Certainly this is so in the realm of exercise science. Lee epitomized the athletic ideals of diligence, hard work, bearing up under adversity and refusing to short-change either oneself or one's potential. "Low aim is the biggest crime a man can commit," he once told Tae Kwon Do Master, Jhoon Rhee. "Remember, Life is a journey, not a destination."
The Roman philosopher Seneca once said that, "Life, if thou knowest how to use it, is long enough." If this is so, then Bruce Lee's life was long enough to be a fulfilling one, perhaps - given what he accomplished and the enduring influence of his example -- it might just be considered one of the more meaningful lives of the twentieth century. And it was Lee's commitment to excellence - and to a principled approach to training - that resulted in the creation of one of the greatest physiques in modern history.
Bruce Lee gives up 20 LB's to a Light Weight fight: He is 20 LB's lighter than the lightest fighters in larger orgs like the UFC. Couture fights at heavy weight.
No contest really.
No contest really.
I dunno, i think its a bit short-sighted to say that he didnt have martial arts as we have it today - Kung Fu has been around for a few thousand years, many other martial arts have been around for times ranging from 20 to 500+ years. How long has MMA been popularised in the west in the form similar to what it takes now?
A few decades at most? (Im half rhetorical, half actually asking here
)
Bruce Lee hasnt been dead THAT long. Over a millenia of cumulative knowledge on martial arts by the Chinese people that was passed on to him isnt going to be beat out in the relatively short time since he was in his prime.
Its common sense to say that he'd have a tougher time with heavier opponants because thats just how it works, but theres no substitute for innate ability. All the training money can buy cant compete with "a natural" and thats what BL was. I dont think he was ever actually beaten, or even came CLOSE to being beaten.
Few fights are a walkover, and sure its a different stage now compared to back then, but to say that in his prime he has no chance against ANY modern MMA fighters is like saying Ali in his prime would have no chance against ANY modern boxers.
I know its not an exact comparison, so dont flame me for that, the point is that both those guys were always gonna be the best at what they did no matter when they were born.
A few decades at most? (Im half rhetorical, half actually asking here
)Bruce Lee hasnt been dead THAT long. Over a millenia of cumulative knowledge on martial arts by the Chinese people that was passed on to him isnt going to be beat out in the relatively short time since he was in his prime.
Its common sense to say that he'd have a tougher time with heavier opponants because thats just how it works, but theres no substitute for innate ability. All the training money can buy cant compete with "a natural" and thats what BL was. I dont think he was ever actually beaten, or even came CLOSE to being beaten.
Few fights are a walkover, and sure its a different stage now compared to back then, but to say that in his prime he has no chance against ANY modern MMA fighters is like saying Ali in his prime would have no chance against ANY modern boxers.
I know its not an exact comparison, so dont flame me for that, the point is that both those guys were always gonna be the best at what they did no matter when they were born.
BJ Penn would murder Lee.
Well some say to win you have to fight with your heart and soul, which puts Lee at a disadvantage because if South Park has taught us ANYTHING its that Asians don't HAVE souls.
So Matt Serra is one of the greatest of all time??
Being that Matt Hughes worked BJ in their second fight, then Georges Rush St. Pierre worked Hughes in their ast fight, and ultimately Matt Serra knocked GSP's ass out...hence Matt Serra can beat Hughes, Penn, and ultimately Bruce?? 
What none of you have considered, is that... what?
Lee never studied moves of aikido, judo, jujutsu, indian wrestling, roman greco technique, sambo!?...
All that shit was around before the gracie's were born.
He put ALL techniques into his fighting, and at the time OWNED all what were modern top martial artists.
Watch this slo-mo demo from the 67natl championships.
He owns this guy SO many ways
Lee never studied moves of aikido, judo, jujutsu, indian wrestling, roman greco technique, sambo!?...
All that shit was around before the gracie's were born.
He put ALL techniques into his fighting, and at the time OWNED all what were modern top martial artists.
Watch this slo-mo demo from the 67natl championships.
He owns this guy SO many ways
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actualy mr gaz he was beaten once. although there were a few fights he considerd a loss becouse the fight was not completed in the time he thought a fight should be won. well he may have lost more than once but one that i am aware of. bruce lee was amazing, and a inspiration to many including myself.
Me over you dumbass...all day.
