re: uncleZ..Help a brother out!

[faller]

re: uncleZ..Help a brother out!

It was suggested that i post this here instead of the Anabolic Zone..

I want to order some goodies so I've been doing some reading on reviews here. The reviews are great here, seems everyone has tremendous respect for the Z.!

But here's my dilemma, I've been to a couple other boards and on one of those boards i see uncleZ openly admitting to have knowingly sold fake gear, and to have selectively scammed people.

By his own admission he has stated that he will right the wrongs he has done going as far back as 2007.! WTF?? I'd post up the other board where he says all this but not sure if i'm allowed too...

Can he be trusted now?

And please don't ban me I've been a member here for a long time, i'm not trying to stir up shit, i'm just looking for answers..

 

[Dark Geared God]

 

[persianprince23]

hes solde replicas not fake gear

 

[faller]

hes solde replicas not fake gear

In 2007?

 

[persianprince23]

i dont know about 2007 but in 2011 his gear is good as i am using it now why are u so worried about what happened 4 years ago

 

[faller]

i dont know about 2007 but in 2011 his gear is good as i am using it now why are u so worried about what happened 4 years ago

Have you not read my post??

 

[persianprince23]

ive heard the replicas thing but not the "selective scammer" thing i am on another bpard and never heard of the allegations

 

[faller]

It doesn't concern you that he admits to these allegations?

 

[persianprince23]

i jus know about the steroid replica thing where he wasnt selling fakes as they had the hormone in them i have not read a review from soemone on here or another board that said they got bunk stuff from z now i am not a rep of z and jus used him this first cycle and hes been good to me as well as a few other people i know but the selective samming thing ur saying is new to me

 

[faller]

but the selective samming thing ur saying is new to me

Thats my point, its not me saying this, its Z... Hence my post, what does a guy do? Good reviews here yet on another board Z himself admitting to selective scamming and knowingly selling fake gear.

Does one buy from him or move on to a more reputable source??? Thats all i want to know..

 

[Uncle Z.]

It was suggested that i post this here instead of the Anabolic Zone..

I want to order some goodies so I've been doing some reading on reviews here. The reviews are great here, seems everyone has tremendous respect for the Z.!

But here's my dilemma, I've been to a couple other boards and on one of those boards i see uncleZ openly admitting to have knowingly sold fake gear, and to have selectively scammed people.

By his own admission he has stated that he will right the wrongs he has done going as far back as 2007.! WTF?? I'd post up the other board where he says all this but not sure if i'm allowed too...

Can he be trusted now?

And please don't ban me I've been a member here for a long time, i'm not trying to stir up shit, i'm just looking for answers..

You wanted to order from me....

That's a fucking lie :

I know i don't post much, but i've read every post here and a couple other threads that are on the go. I'm one of the Mods at CM...

We worked like dogs to have Z removed from there based largely on info we all pooled from boards like this one. Non take this lightly, we're trying to emulate boards like AB and hope to have the trust of the community like AB has. But to just forgive and forget a indiscretion that has been on going for years leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Trust has to be earned over time, a quick band aid to me is just that, a band aid.

He never wanted to do it

You know what was his intention ? Do I have to explain ?

his another post :

What do you think Z, I've been a member there since 06, will my post get deleted? Will i be banned? Will you deny everything or come clean as you have here??

I think that he have only selective reading ability :
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/unclez/122507-things-you-should-know.html

So do you still don't know what was his intention ?
Oh and I love his subject : Help a brother out!

Please help him
coz I won't

z.

 

[persianprince23]

thank you z i wasnt putting him out there but likei said i vouch fro you but instead of "asking" he is telling us what to think i am using Z and i have 2 buddys also with z and they are blown out there mind as well z is legit

 

[faller]

Where did i say I wanted to order from you?

You left OLM because of pressure from the membership. Your forum there was locked down, you didn't leave voluntarily.

Hi
All started with fake Norma deca

It was me who suspend selling yellow top deca and who said hey look I won't selling it for some time now - and all started

Yeah i admit it was my fault i shouldn't place it in HG section but create Inj steroids and place it there (I check other sources
websites and that's how they list it there)

There is really no excuse for us I admit we have lost in sales...
and no one really paid attention to to neither we nor our clients

But the whole case which got me suspended at OLM was dbol

We can do the he said she said all day long and nothing will be resolved in the end. I asked you on AB to come clean on all the boards you sponsor on, only than will we believe that you are sincere.

Your response was that you haven't had any complaints, which tells me that you only come clean when your hand is caught in the cookie jar.. And that you aren't sincere on AB... There's a reason why you have been banned from so many boards.

Look i don't care one way or the other, i just think that members have a right to know the truth and than make educated decisions when purchaseing thier products....

 

[persianprince23]

ur asking to "help a brother out" and when u get feedback u actually question ti so what exactly are u trying to do? u go back to 2007 which is ireelevant in this time and age. on another board i am on there is no talk about your allegations so what exactly are u trying to achieve here? if ur jus tryna down z then cool but dont make it seem likeu want answers or throw subliminal attacks against him u ask for feedback and in 2011 z has done me right sooooo what now

 

[Stevosaurusrex]

Z has always done good to me , hopefully this is cleared up .

 

[rliss1]

 

[faller]

ur asking to "help a brother out" and when u get feedback u actually question ti so what exactly are u trying to do? u go back to 2007 which is ireelevant in this time and age. on another board i am on there is no talk about your allegations so what exactly are u trying to achieve here? if ur jus tryna down z then cool but dont make it seem likeu want answers or throw subliminal attacks against him u ask for feedback and in 2011 z has done me right sooooo what now

You're focusing too much on the non essentials. "help a brother out"? Meh couldn't think of anything else to say.

Its not me going back to 2007, its Z. What am i trying to achieve? Well that there is more to Z than meets the eye.. It would have been pointless to come in here with both barrels blazing..

"Soooo what now"? Do your own research now, the answers are out there. You might want to start by asking him where his Z line comes from, dig deep and you might be surprised...

I'm done in this thread, Gonna browse in the hot babes gallery

 

[faon]

 

[Stevosaurusrex]

A lot of people do not like Z for some reason . Google UncleZ Scam and theres so many boards bashing him .

I guess i ll keep coming to the guy until he does me wrong .

 

[persianprince23]

People are always going to bash its competition when genx was around there name was dragged thru the mud over and over u can go on google and type ina source and scam wil pop up z has not done me dirty nor anyone I know that has used him I'm sure evry once ina while there can be bad batchs or what not but from my observation he makes it right

 

[CobraNinja]

You might want to start by asking him where his Z line comes from, dig deep and you might be surprised...

i think what this guy, "Faller" , is trying to say is that the Z-line is actually the products he is talking about that made Z get banned from other sites (the fakes or scamming products). the only way u can tell that is if u still have a vial of that batch and compare it in a lab to z-line.

but why would u care to come to a forum and make a thread like this attacking Z. if he was banned or he left by himself from your forum, then u have no reason to come over here just to talk trash.

 

[faller]

:but why would u care to come to a forum and make a thread like this attacking Z. :

Honestly?... I've been in this game a long time and the last few years since the Internet there has been a disturbing trend. Us getting fucked constantly by guys like Z and his ilk. 80% of HG gear on the market right now is counterfeit, you don't find that disturbing??.. And if they don't know than find out for FFS!

As it sits right now there are only three boards to my knowledge where a member can confidently go through the source section and know with out a doubt they are getting what they pay for. Thats it, three!! I see some of those sources are here, my hats off to you.

As the Admin said on my board "its time to take out the garbage". The purging has started, sources have taken notice.. If we as a community don't stick together on this and make these guys accountable than at the end of the day we deserve what we get...

 

[Uncle Z.]

Honestly?... I've been in this game a long time and the last few years since the Internet there has been a disturbing trend. Us getting fucked constantly by guys like Z and his ilk. 80% of HG gear on the market right now is counterfeit, you don't find that disturbing??.. And if they don't know than find out for FFS!

As it sits right now there are only three boards to my knowledge where a member can confidently go through the source section and know with out a doubt they are getting what they pay for. Thats it, three!! I see some of those sources are here, my hats off to you.

As the Admin said on my board "its time to take out the garbage". The purging has started, sources have taken notice.. If we as a community don't stick together on this and make these guys accountable than at the end of the day we deserve what we get...

One question and please answer only to it just yes and no

Did you bought anything from me and did i scamm you ?

 

[faller]

One question and please answer only to it just yes and no

Did you bought anything from me and did i scamm you ?

No and no..

Why in Gods name would i buy from you?? Ever?? There's honest and reputable sources out there, your reputation precedes you Z.

One of my jobs as a Moderator is to protect the membership and that means keeping informed on whats going on out there. Why do you think we banned you? Why do you think you've been banned from so many boards?

Now let me ask you a question and just answer yes or no.. Have you knowingly sold counterfeit gear? Yes or No.

 

[skyyman]

Dude..I feel you...nobody wants to be scammed...I don't know if it's true or not...But you said yourself that he admitted his mistakes and wants to do right...I am waiting for a order now from z and like many people on the board as long as he does right by me than that is how I will judge him...If he is a man of his word and he is doing right would that be good enough for you...

 

[whitemike370]

I really don't care what happened 4 years ago. I am awaiting my first order from him now and service has been great and if the gear is to ill keep using Z.

 

[Repo]

Ok here we go ... Let me give you my 100% personal experience - and what I have found out while researching Z's products - service and business.

First off - out of six orders - I am as happy as happy can be with all six - the results have been awesome with every single product - and I am one picky SOB.

What I have found when looking deep into the reviews - I noticed Z's customers loved him - and his products - if there ever was a problem - it is very important to - "him" - to make it right - "for you."

Any exeption to this was one if two things ... Breakdown in communication or second had information - let me explain...

You see - sometimes I would see actual customers having a breakdown in the way they were trying to contact Z - ie. Bad emails or what not ... I've always received a response from Z within one day - two at most.

The other was second hand bull shit - I can tell you I have recently seen on another board - a member come in and start slamming Z - I knew this was bull shit based on my experience...

Here's the thing - one of the mods looked up his ip address and found he created multiple accounts trying to discredit Z - because he was affiliated with another company.

You should only base an opinion on first hand feedback and look at what they are saying in contrast to other peoples first hand feed back.

I can tell you I was lucky to try Z as my first choice and I have no reson to choose any other business.

I try and post as much feedback as I can to help the new guys make an educated decision - when ever I take time to post my experience with any business I put my reputation on the line - and I have no problem standing behind Z and his business...

I give Z my highest recommendation - if anyone has any questions please feel free to pm me - I'm always happy to help in any way I can.

 

[CobraNinja]

One of my jobs as a Moderator is to protect the membership and that means keeping informed on whats going on out there. Why do you think we banned you? Why do you think you've been banned from so many boards?

1. are u a moderator on this website here, ironmagazineforums?

2. "keeping them informed about whats going on out there"..... u mean keep the people informed from your other website, or going to other forums just to talk trash about Z?

3. i personally dont believe a word u say, at this moment.

 

[heavyiron]

No and no..

Why in Gods name would i buy from you?? Ever?? There's honest and reputable sources out there, your reputation precedes you Z.

One of my jobs as a Moderator is to protect the membership and that means keeping informed on whats going on out there. Why do you think we banned you? Why do you think you've been banned from so many boards?

Now let me ask you a question and just answer yes or no.. Have you knowingly sold counterfeit gear? Yes or No.

Bashing a sponsor in their forum will get you a time out. You have made your point now move on.

Thanks