Ron Artest not alone......

[BoneCrusher]

BC, as far as I'm concerned, we're STILL ok.....

If you look at ALL of my previous posts
prior to the one that you're questioning, you won't
find any mention of RACE.....

I responded with RACE once CMAN introduced it into
the equation

Since you think my post may have been leaning toward
racism, then here is another athlete who
physically vented at a fan....

One of the 50 greatest NBA players of all time,
Sir Charles Barkley, Afro American and conservative,
once spit on a fan ( unfotunately it was a
little girl and not the actual fan he wanted to hit)

Was his actions based on the music he listens to,
I think not....

As DG stated earlier and later
reiterated by Cman and yourself,
YOU are accountable for your own actions...

I grew up with a Father who cursed repeatedly
and after eighteen years of that constant bombardment
of swearing, I became an adult
and don't swear no where near the magnitude
that my father does.

BC, you're still cool with me brother

Ive never seen you bag on anyone over their skin color so I thought it strange ...

 

[BoneCrusher]

And conversely, the people who allow IRATE FANS
assault athletes should be held accountable if they
don't do anything to the fan...

Not justifying Artest going into the stands BUT
if you recall, Artest was lying on the media
table when the fan initiated the assault
by throwing the cup of beer onto him.

The fan by the way has just been releaased from
jail and has a couple of DWI convictions under his belt
and the only media person that has publicized this is
ESPN's Dan Patrick.

What would you do if someone threw
an unwelcomed cup of ANYTHING onto you?

As John Q I'd throw 'em a beatin. As a millionair ball stud I'd know I was going to get some shit tossed at me one way or another sooner ar later. I would get the gaurds to nab the punk that tossed the cup at me and have him removed ... quitely. I'd know that there was way more than just my own ass involved in any decisions I made or acted rashly on and I would not screw my team mates over. I know I'd do it that way by the way I've conducted myself in past situations. As someone who has managed large construction crews I've had to deal with jerks several times. I've had to keep company interests 1st and not dispense an asswhoopin to a needy person more than once. Part of being a man and handeling my business.

I do hope that the fan who started this crap does get the book thrown at him. I also hope he gets full press coverage and stops this from becoming a habit. We don't need this and should not allow it to become the institution it has become in countries like England.

 

[maniclion]

Music is a symptom, not a cause.

In the city art mimics life, in the suburbs life mimics art(ie:teenagers act like thugged out gangstas) and in the country wildlife runs when it sees Art coming down the trail with his pants down.

 

[cman]

I do hope that the fan who started this crap does get the book thrown at him. I also hope he gets full press coverage and stops this from becoming a habit. We don't need this and should not allow it to become the institution it has become in countries like England.[/QUOTE]
They are liberals, and that always = anarchy. and low SAT's LOL

 

[DFINEST]

I would say it is both. you listen to it as a symptom, and as you brain wash your self. things you would not do at one time you will eventually talk yourself into because of the constant bombardment on the brain. But it is still your choice of actions. I don't agree with people who blame their actions on everyone but themselves. I smoked crack before. I don't blame the guy who offered it to me. I chose. and I chose to leave it behind, after some extensive research, ya ya it was in the name of science, ya.

I not sure about this....
as an mature ADULT,
YOU know what behavior is and is not deviant....

If you brainwash yourself just from a
constant BOMBARDMENT of listening to
whatever it is that you're
listening to then I ask this....

What were CHILD RAPING CATHOLIC priest listening
to before, during and after they were raping kids?

 

[DFINEST]

Ive never seen you bag on anyone over their skin color so I thought it strange ...

And I"ll never will brother

 

[cman]

I not sure about this....
as an mature ADULT,
YOU know what behavior is and is not deviant....

If you brainwash yourself just from a
constant BOMBARDMENT of listening to
whatever it is that you're
listening to then I ask this....

What were CHILD RAPING CATHOLIC priest listening
to before, during and after they were raping kids?

A bunch of Babalonian pagan traditions disguised as Chrstianity.