short test prop cycle opinions.

[GFR]

I whole hartedly agree my diet and training were not spot on by any means.
I can't cook for shit, I get drunk at least twice a week, and have smoked a load of weed in my time... though I did cut this out whilst on steroids.

Perhaps I would have grown without the need for steroids given time and cutting out my vices. But for some of us weight training is not all there is to life, I am young and like to party...I also want a nice body so steroids have helped me a long way towards this. I could have my dream body in a year, still young enough to enjoy having it and I would have saved myslef a load of years effort in the gym. whats the problem?


I didn't lie old man, I made a small error in a single post 2 years ago.. Didn't realise people were so fucking sad as to check. _ Wont happen again sir.

I can see you want a nice body, pot and alcohol are a great way to achieve that. It is simple, you are a stupid child who is destroying your body with illegal and legal drugs and now you want to throw another class of drugs into the mix. In 10 years you will look 47 and I guarantee your body will look like it has never been fit.....Pathetic.

 

[madmartigan]

I am just having fun... more fun than some "know it all" who spends so much time slagging off other peoples opinions on a forum... you are sad mate.

My body is far from destroyed mate, I am about balance. I am fit and healthy, exercise 4 times a week (weights and aerobic) and also use chemicals (occasionally) and alcohol in an intelligent and measured way to enhance my life.

I am not obsessed with size , as big dudes look like ridiculous self obsessed freaks to me. I just want to look "buff" and I do thanks to steroids.

Even Arnie drank and smoked pot occasionaly, you need to lighten up a bit old man.

You can't "guarantee" anything mate, as you don't know everything.
I have been partying for over 10 years mate and I still look young for my age and am in the best shape of my life.
You look (and talk) like a fat old kill joy know it all... to me you are pathetic.

 

[GFR]

Like I said in 10 years you will look and feel like you are almost 50, sad but typical of most Americans.

 

[madmartigan]

That maybe true of most americans ... but Im from England.
In 10 years I will look 37... And I would have fully enjoyed my youth.

 

[GFR]

That maybe true of most americans ... but Im from England.
In 10 years I will look 37... And I would have fully enjoyed my youth.

You should move to America in 10 years, you will fit right in with most fat 50 year old people.

 

[madmartigan]

Only time will tell. Loads of people binge drink over here, and those people don't look 10 years older.
Who wants to live forever.
There is more to life than bodybuilding.

 

[GFR]

Only time will tell. Loads of people binge drink over here, and those people don't look 10 years older.
Who wants to live forever.
There is more to life than bodybuilding.

I could give a shit about Bodybuilding, it's all about staying young as long as you can. At 40 I will be in the best shape of my life and will be loving it. Nothing more funny then to see guys my age who did drugs and partied for 20 years and now look like hell. Guess they didnt realise that when you turn 40 or 50 or 60+ you still want to look and feel good...

 

[madmartigan]

As I said, im all about balance... having fun and keeping healthy, it is possible to do both you know.

 

[crimp1]

What's with all the American comments?

 

[GFR]

As I said, im all about balance... having fun and keeping healthy, it is possible to do both you know.

It is not!

 

[pengers84]

Foremans a cyberbully

 

[19-chief]

i'm going to chime in b/c my best friend is extremely concerned about hair loss and he has now run 3 different cycles with measurable success... i know i usually advocate testosterone as the base of any cycle but if you insist on going without for said reasons the 3 best compounds for you would be primo, eq, and anavar. you're not gonna grow like you would from other compounds, but when combined with proper nutrition and training these will yield good results.
his first cycle: 400mg primo ew for 10 weeks. second: 400mg primo, 400mg eq ew for 12 weeks. and the current one: 40mg anavar ed for 6 weeks, 400mg primo and 600mg eq for 12 weeks. he looks f*cking jacked right now.

Not really mate, I have done a lot of research... and subsequently came to the conclusion that my choice of substances was the best for me.

I currently have a full head of hair and want to keep it that way so hair loss and other side effects were a big concern of mine, deca was the best choice when weighing up the risk/reward equation.

I know many would say to add in some test. as deca is very supressive of natural T for some.... I honestly didn't find it too bad though. I reasoned that test was perhaps overkill for my initial steps into the world of steroids, and the risks of side effects were too great considering my goals.

Whilst on both deca only cycles I admitidly did experience a slight loss of libido. But on the whole I have gained 20 ibs of permanent muscle and 2 inches on my arms. Having experience no other side effects I feel I have been very succesful and with hindsight made the right choice.
Running 400mg of deca per week with the usual prescription of adding 400mg test p/w I believe I would have put on more mass than I wanted to.

If I decide to go further down the chemical route I may indeed try Test or another substance (which is what my original post is about)...
but trust me I did a load of research and would advise anyone to do so before sticking chemicals in their bodies. I am in a good position in that I belive I have built a solid base on which to build, and having kept my initial cycles fairly prudent I will be able to make decent gains on my 3rd cycle too without needing loads of gear.

Just out of interest mr. research which roids and at what dosages would you suggest for someone who is worried about hair loss?

 

[19-chief]

i think he is going to experiment with turanabol stacked with primo next.

 

[Dylann]

Just came across this post and this may be of help.

I am running 75mg eod of test propionate for 4 weeks to get ready for a comp.
It is short acting, and after 1 week even at this low dosage I definitely looked bigger and fuller and water retention was non existent.
The other benefits are that a 4 week cycle is easy to recover, and from doing quite a bit of research a 4 week cycle doesnt allow for significant side effects.
I am concerned with hair loss as well, so if you do see any the test prop will be out of your system in much quicker time
I do compete as a fitness model so it is different from bodybuilding, but for me it is about great conditioning on stage and preperaing for photo shoots.

In relation to keeping the gains from a 4 week cycle, I haven't used HCG and personally I dont know if it will keep them or not with proper PCT.

If anyone has had experience with short cycles of test prop i'd be interested in your feedback and how you found it