So I got high and test drove some cars.

[Goodfella9783]

I kinda agree with DOMS on this one. I used to smoke and I stopped for the reason that I didn't like the affects of it; I didn't feel like me. That may just be my personal reaction to it, or the shit I smoked, but I had more bad highs than good highs. Always paranoid, feeling clumsy, light headed, unable to concentrate for example. I wish I knew of some herb that would just give me that chill reaction where I just hang out and can zone out to a movie, but still have a head on my shoulders.

I'm not attempting to generalize because I believe some people can handle it better than others. I know a lot of people who I would rather hang out with when they are high, as opposed to sober (that might fit under DOMS' category of being able to get through the day when high, irritability when sober, etc.)

 

[DOMS]

This has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with what we are talking about here.

He side of the argument has fallen through, so this is all he has left.

 

[Jodi]

He side of the argument has fallen through, so this is all he has left.

Yeah, I have no idea why he pulled my health issues I've been dealing with into this. There is no commonality at all.

 

[maniclion]

What would the world be like without mind-altering substances, I am a believer in the need for some individuals to sacrifice their bodies so that they can delve into secret recesses of the mind and pull out some cool shit, like a great song, wonderful poem, science bending theory or just some good stories....of course some can delve into those recesses without any chemical alteration, but then I think that they have a naturally occurring alteration maybe genetic or from an accidental hit on the head, some geniuses are/were quite mad.....

 

[KelJu]

There is a BIG difference in medicinal marijuana and street marijuana. Street marijuana is not pure and it has over 250 OTHER chemicals in it.

I actually believe medicinal marijuana is great for those that need it. Don't try to pass off a street drug by putting it in the same category.

Thats wrong Jodi. Nobody puts shit into their weed that I have ever known of. You break the branches off of the tress and put it into bags. Thats why I have to spend 10 minutes removing all of the weed from the stems and take out the seeds when I buy homegrown shwag. Weed sellers are almost always smokers who sell you weed out of their personal stash. 9 times out of ten I smoke with the person selling me the weed. They say you want to smoke a bowl while you are here, and I say sure. I smoke out of his stash with him or her, then buy a bit for myself out of that same bag and go about my business.

 

[tucker01]

I find that most people of your and Iain's opinion are not happy with themselves.

Actually I am very happy about my situation. I have beautiful wife and two amazing boys. A good job, good family structure, and friends.

I have smoked Marijuana, don't like the experience. I become paranoid and self-conscious.

I can go to any situation and have fun, sure I have fun with a few drinks (ok sometimes a shit load of drinks) but can have just as much fun sober, without making as big of an ass of myself.

I have no problem with people smoking marijuana, you wanna smoke go for it. Sure it should be legal if Tabacco and Alcohol are legal. I just don't understand why people would think that there isn't any harm from smoking it, or you are better off smoking some weed, then drinking or smoking cigarettes.

 

[KelJu]

I kinda agree with DOMS on this one. I used to smoke and I stopped for the reason that I didn't like the affects of it; I didn't feel like me. That may just be my personal reaction to it, or the shit I smoked, but I had more bad highs than good highs. Always paranoid, feeling clumsy, light headed, unable to concentrate for example. I wish I knew of some herb that would just give me that chill reaction where I just hang out and can zone out to a movie, but still have a head on my shoulders.

I swear dude, its your own preoccupation that you are going to. If you smoked with me one time I could break you of that shit. We would go do stuff like play disc golf, which I am in fact 10 times better at when I am stoned, and many of my friends are also or workout or whatever. You have to train yourself. you have to have mental focus.

 

[KelJu]

I become paranoid and self-conscious.

Wait a damn minute. Its funny that I just noticed a common trend. Many of the people who claim to get paranoid and self-conscious are people who aren't paranoid and self conscious when they are sober.

I am paranoid and self conscious when I am sober, but completely relaxed and happy when I am high.

 

[Jodi]

Thats wrong Jodi. Nobody puts shit into their weed that I have ever known of. You break the branches off of the tress and put it into bags. Thats why I have to spend 10 minutes removing all of the weed from the stems and take out the seeds when I buy homegrown shwag. Weed sellers are almost always smokers who sell you weed out of their personal stash. 9 times out of ten I smoke with the person selling me the weed. They say you want to smoke a bowl while you are here, and I say sure. I smoke out of his stash with him or her, then buy a bit for myself out of that same bag and go about my business.

KJ - do a search on chemicals in weed. You will see there are up to 500 known other chemicals besides THC.

Don't forget the added pollutants and fungus from the air and soil as well. They aren't growing the weed in a bacterial free area are they?

 

[Goodfella9783]

I swear dude, its your own preoccupation that you are going to. If you smoked with me one time I could break you of that shit. We would go do stuff like play disc golf, which I am in fact 10 times better at when I am stoned, and many of my friends are also or workout or whatever. You have to train yourself. you have to have mental focus.

Another thing I noticed about being high that none of my friends could relate to was that even days after I smoked, I still felt minor symptoms of the high. Like feeling a little numb, sometimes not tasting food until after a few seconds, and just overall having a little bit of the high left over. It was pretty weird.

I do admit that I did do some things better when I was high though. For example me and my buddies would go out behind his house and play basketball and football and I was absolutely full of energy. Like I couldn't get tired. And I swear we made catches and shots that we wouldn't have been able to make sober. This just might be my sober self exaggerating my high self, but for some reason I did feel like I could perform some sports while high better than sober. I also believe I had more fun in my high school weed smoking days. I was care free, while later on when you start to get more responsibility, a little bit of that lingers in your mind while you're high, ruining the high.

I also believe that some of my highs were ruined by the labels authority and non users gave stoners. Sort of made me feel guilty, making the high less enjoyable. That's just a theory though.

Maybe you're right though. I need to train myself to be able to be productive while I'm blazed, making my normal life co-exist with being high. Maybe I'll experiment sometime for shits and giggles. Haven't smoked in about two years.

BTW, what is disc golf?

 

[Little Wing]

i used to smoke so much pot you get so you function on it very well. you build up a tolerance i guess. i think for some people it provides a daily self medication that millions of others get with drugs like zoloft, elavil etc. no one questions people driving on those. i take wellbutrin xl presently n when i first take it after being off it awhile i cannot even concentrate to read a book.

i know people that take heavy drugs for back pain and they are perfectly free to drive while on it even tho the same dose one person can tolerate will make another seriously fucked up.

in the interest of your fellow man tho it is essential that a person honestly be able to judge their level of function on whatever meds or drugs they take. even tho denial is often huge in this area i have known stoners i felt safer in a car with than some others that simply have a cell phone n aren't on anything.

 

[KelJu]

BTW, what is disc golf?

Its the greatest sport of all times. It is like regular golf except you use frisbi like disc rather than a club and ball.

 

[tucker01]

Disc golf is pretty sweet.

 

[KelJu]

in the interest of your fellow man tho it is essential that a person honestly be able to judge their level of function on whatever meds or drugs they take. even tho denial is oftenb huge in this area i have known stoners i felt safer in a car with than some others that simply have a cell phone n aren't on anything.

Great point. Lets deal with a few facts for a minute. I have had one accident in my entire life and I wasn't awake when it happened. I feel asleep from pure exhaustion while driving from college to my parents house.

I have been driving high since I was 15. I have never had an accident while high. How many of you have had accidents while you were sober that were your fault?

Nobody has to answer this, just think about it instead.

 

[BoneCrusher]

YouTube Video

 

[MCx2]

I haven't had liver problems or xenobiotic problems no. And no my problems have nothing to do with what goes into my body. My problems are due to low cortisol and low thyroid. It has nothing to do with with I feed or put into my body. You have read wrong.

The only reason I'm strict on my diet is because my low thyroid makes me put on weight easy. I choose not to gain so I don't feed my body enough food to gain.

This has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with what we are talking about here.

It does.

I was actually trying to compliment you for caring and understanding why you are so adamant about something that has absolutely nothing to do with you personally. But you and DOMS don't seem to care about making real points when you debate, you just want to "win" the debate. Whatever floats you boat.

 

[KelJu]

YouTube Video

Lawl, that looks like me driving down airport blvd.

 

[MCx2]

He side of the argument has fallen through, so this is all he has left.

You're such a woman.


Nothing has "fallen through."

You're just a pussy and can't handle marijuana. I can and it doesn't change me one bit. But since you seem to know me personally, you wim DOMS.

 

[MCx2]

i used to smoke so much pot you get so you function on it very well.

Not possible. DOMS said so.

 

[Jodi]

It does.

I was actually trying to compliment you for caring and understanding why you are so adamant about something that has absolutely nothing to do with you personally. But you and DOMS don't seem to care about making real points when you debate, you just want to "win" the debate. Whatever floats you boat.

I'm not trying to "win" anything. Sorry, I take that back, the only thing I have to win here is the chance of one of you realizing that you should stop smoking weed.

I don't understand why you pointed out my health issues........that's why I was confused.

 

[MCx2]

Sorry, I take that back, the only thing I have to win here is the chance of one of you realizing that you should stop smoking weed.

And that's the point I was trying to make. It didn't come out the way I intended because I was trying to run an office, talk with an architect and type at the same time.


Do you drink alcohol at all?

 

[Jodi]

Within moderation. I haven't had a drink since St. Patricks Day and even then I only had 2 beers.

 

[maniclion]

You know how when before you started working out you didn't drink as much water, then when you learned you needed to stay hydrated you started carrying around that water bottle all day, everywhere and you would piss almost every hour, then as you adjusted you didn't have to piss as often? I think thats where Kelju is with his highs, his body has adjusted so that it can still function under the effects of weed. There are several different highs you have the toke once in a blue moon high, then you can have the toke everyday high. Did you know that in the 80's they were using MDMA for treating depression and PTSD?

YouTube Video

 

[MCx2]

Within moderation.

Bam.

KelJu stated earlier in this thread that he has a $50 a week weed habit. IMO, that's a little excessive.

Would you call a glass of red wine a day "within moderation?"

How about a few beers (3-4) every Thursday night?

If yes, then I sure don't see how a $50 a month (if that) weed habit would not be considered "within moderation," and yes, I can still get high every day on that. The fact is that unless I told you I had smoked, you would have no clue.

Marijuana gets a bad rap because people have no idea how to smoke it in moderation. You roll a blunt/joint and burn it up. Me on the other hand, I have one of those little key chain hitters and will take a hit, wait 20 minutes and repeat if needed. That's all.

I'm not trying to glorify pot smoking in any way. I understand that most people can't make that decision for themselves, to moderate. But to group all pot smokers in the same category is just irresponsible IMO, and I'm certainly not gonna just sit here and watch people dog on other smokers, because they weren't capable of using marijuana responsibly themselves.

 

[Little Wing]

i think it's fucked up that booze is legal n pot isn't. i don't smoke it anymore but you do get so it doesn't make you high like an occasional smoke would when you smoke it day n nite. like if a person that drinks a ton of coffee doesn't drink any coffee for a few weeks then has a couple pots. i HATE that

 

[Bakerboy]

Meditation

 

[DOMS]

You're just a pussy and can't handle marijuana. I can and it doesn't change me one bit. But since you seem to know me personally, you wim DOMS.

Denial is the first sign of addiction.

 

[Brachiisaurus]

YouTube Video

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Holy fuck that's hilarious when you're high

 

[Brachiisaurus]

i think it's fucked up that booze is legal n pot isn't. i don't smoke it anymore but you do get so it doesn't make you high like an occasional smoke would when you smoke it day n nite. like if a person that drinks a ton of coffee doesn't drink any coffee for a few weeks then has a couple pots. i HATE that

DUDE pots only illegal and alcohol is legal because alcohol has been around longer.

I guaren fucking tee you that if pot had been discovered and used sooner.
Then it would be bars for pot and it would be legal and alcohol would be legal.

 

[Jodi]

Bam.

KelJu stated earlier in this thread that he has a $50 a week weed habit. IMO, that's a little excessive.

I would have to agree.

Would you call a glass of red wine a day "within moderation?"

Nope I call that excessive.

How about a few beers (3-4) every Thursday night?

Nope I call that excessive as well.

If yes, then I sure don't see how a $50 a month (if that) weed habit would not be considered "within moderation," and yes, I can still get high every day on that. The fact is that unless I told you I had smoked, you would have no clue.

Marijuana gets a bad rap because people have no idea how to smoke it in moderation. You roll a blunt/joint and burn it up. Me on the other hand, I have one of those little key chain hitters and will take a hit, wait 20 minutes and repeat if needed. That's all.

I'm not trying to glorify pot smoking in any way. I understand that most people can't make that decision for themselves, to moderate. But to group all pot smokers in the same category is just irresponsible IMO, and I'm certainly not gonna just sit here and watch people dog on other smokers, because they weren't capable of using marijuana responsibly themselves.

Everything you posted I find NOT within moderation A drink maybe once a month or every other month is moderation to me.

Why don't you look into nootropics? It's legal, it helps clear your head, you feel great on them and they won't harm you physically. You can much of the same effects that you use weed for from nootropics and feel better too.